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Old 05-11-2020, 04:05 PM   #1
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Default Must have Mac10 bits?

Currently waiting on a F4 for an Ingram M10. Any parts you folks recommend?

I have a Lage Max10/31 in the mail, about 40 Ingram mags and a couple other small bits.

Any recommendations for grips, FCGs, spare parts? I'll probably need a take down pin for the Lage as it's a 1973 gun. Any comments on the KNS pin?
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Old 05-11-2020, 07:33 PM   #2
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I picked up a pair of early (3 digit ser #s) PS MAC 10s in 45 ACP last year and I will go through and let you know what i picked up for mine...

Don't go out and buy a take down pin. A few months back I received my Lage MAX-10/45 mk2 Upper Receiver (slow fire upper in 45) and it came with a take down pin with a ring on one end and a spring loaded ball on the other. I would pick up a couple of recoils springs and some other small parts.

A must have is the Lage mag catch which works with both original grease gun mags and the MAC/Cobray mags. I also got the extended safeties.


http://www.max-11.com/MAX10.html scroll down for small parts...


https://www.ftfindustries.com/category/MCFAI.html good parts...


http://www.usmachinegun.com moar parts...
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Old 05-11-2020, 09:37 PM   #3
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I probably should have made a list of what spares I have/what it comes with.

I've got
37mags
Installed extended mag release (penny brazed on)
Extended mag release new in a sealed baggie
Recoil spring, I assume the original
Couple neoprene buffers about .125" thick
TASK Slowfire conversion installed with an A2 stock

Some other bits I have no idea what they are.

Funniest part, the gun had a $30 airsoft sight on it that wobbled like a bobblehead!

My Max10/31 (9mm Suomi fed upper) will be here tomorrow. I'll see if it came with a pin.

Looks like grease gun mags have gotten expensive too!

Mine is a PS with what appears to be a 1973 manufacture date.
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Old 05-11-2020, 10:09 PM   #4
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I decided to skip on the 9mm Suomi upper since the drums and mags are not cheap anymore. Besides I have a full size and mini Uzi MGs, plus semi Uzis.

Grease gun mags have gone up quite a bit in the last 6 months to a year. I have a crap load of 30 rd GI and MAC/Cobray mags plus around a dozen 40 rd Cobray mags.

I picked up a pair of supposedly 30rd mags off GB last summer, both Cobray and one with a Yugoslav double headed eagle stamped on the side. Well they turned out to be 40rd and the Yugo mag was probably stamped for possible sales over there since they did have a sales rep in Yugoslavia.

Both of mine are 1972 dated, but the earlier one was most likely made in late 1971 and the other early 1972.
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Old 05-11-2020, 10:32 PM   #5
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Shockwave makes mags for the Suomi upper and I've got at least one drum as I was intending to built a parts kit to go with my PPSh. 9mm is cheaper than 45 to shoot.

I've got some crazy 50rnd looking mag. One of my mags has the same phosphated finish as the gun. I assume it's the original.

Any input on the Lage grip?
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confused is it 9MM or 45 ACP do you have that mag sleeve?

also mike in pa double headed eagle stamped on the side is the encom MP45 mag
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Mine is 45ACP but the Lage Max10/31 is 9mm.using Suomi drums or coffin mags. Shockwave makes double stack single feed mags for the Max10/31 now too.

On other lists for various uppers, UltiMac, Lage10/15, Tenko at this time.
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Mine is 45ACP but the Lage Max10/31 is 9mm.using Suomi drums or coffin mags. Shockwave makes double stack single feed mags for the Max10/31 now too.

On other lists for various uppers, UltiMac, Lage10/15, Tenko at this time.
yes i know sorry forgot the max comes with bolt if you get around to threading
as you talked about on uzitalk let me know i can trade you a drum for threading a barrel or two
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Old 05-12-2020, 08:27 AM   #9
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I need to do that. Not sure when that'll happen yet.

Figured I'd ask folks here about stuff too. Get as much info as possible. Different audience and a right vocal one!
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I'm on the Lage 10/15 list too, forgot my spot.
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Old 05-12-2020, 11:49 PM   #11
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I'm #244 for the Lage. For me, the Tenko makes the most sense. I can do any caliber I have an AR in with ease. 22LR to tokarev to 410 and beyond. I'd be set with the 10/31 and a Tenko, I believe.

Is the ATF actually doing anything and issuing their illegal opinions on things still? Those upper have been delayed for a very long time now.


Got my 10/31 today. Machining is beautiful. Little layer of lube on it and plan to test fit it in the gun tomorrow on the way home from work.

Maybe in a month or so I'll get a couple DeadAir brakes for the Lage and other firearms I have. Need to be respectful and suppressed!

Any comments on the Lage grip? Looks more comfortable than the factory "grip" but is more expensive than I'd want to put it on, hate it, throw it Inna box for eternity.
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Old 05-13-2020, 09:36 AM   #12
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I'm #244 for the Lage. For me, the Tenko makes the most sense. I can do any caliber I have an AR in with ease. 22LR to tokarev to 410 and beyond. I'd be set with the 10/31 and a Tenko, I believe.

Is the ATF actually doing anything and issuing their illegal opinions on things still? Those upper have been delayed for a very long time now.


Got my 10/31 today. Machining is beautiful. Little layer of lube on it and plan to test fit it in the gun tomorrow on the way home from work.

Maybe in a month or so I'll get a couple DeadAir brakes for the Lage and other firearms I have. Need to be respectful and suppressed!

Any comments on the Lage grip? Looks more comfortable than the factory "grip" but is more expensive than I'd want to put it on, hate it, throw it Inna box for eternity.
I checked the email and I'm #205 on the list for a 10/15. That will be a great upgrade for the MAC 10. Yes, Lage does an awesome job machining stuff.

I went with the old school two stage Sionics cans for mine. Just had to do it. I thought about the Lage grips but I would like to see how they feel before getting them for mine.



The aTf is tired of all the BS that people have sent it for "determination". A lot of assholes have sent in pics of a fleshlight attached to a pistol in place of an arm brace and want it approved. Also, the constant changing of stuff that was approved, but sent back in because they changed the material or caliber. Approving an upper that was 3D printed but now it's made from alloy or steel.

They also got their dicks caught in the door on specific issues and I think they are taking a back seat for awhile. Trump said to look into banning the bump stock that they approved, now they banned it. Then in court they said they had no right or power to ban an item. Now they have backed down on an illegal MG case because it might set a precedent on the future of MGs.
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Old 05-13-2020, 12:51 PM   #13
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They never had power to ban anything. Congress holds that power. They are to do what Congress tells them to do.

We the people are tired of their BS.

I agree, material change does nothing. Doesn't change the design. Wish Tenko thought the same and we would probably be using his adapter a year ago.

I want to be able to use my existing can on it. Just easier that way. The KeyMount system is awesome.
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They never had power to ban anything. Congress holds that power. They are to do what Congress tells them to do. .
Well yeah, no fuckin shit. But Trump told them to see about banning the bump stock and they did. They had to rewrite the definition of a MG that has been unchanged since the NFA 1934 but they did it. Where was Congress to step in and say something about their action?
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