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Old 04-20-2020, 12:01 AM   #1
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I was not unprepared prior to this event, but I am not ashamed to say that I have been thinking "redundancy" and padding some things. I still haven't paid much of any premium over regular prices, but that is starting to take a lot more effort......

Hopefully I am wrong, (please re read that) but as I continue to see sharp price increases and shortages, I can't help but think that this is not going to pass this time. I think that at best, it runs up until November, and at worst, if Joe wins and installs Gun Grabbin' Beto….whether or not they actually grab guns, we are going to see panic that exceeds the Obola years.

In short, I really don't care if the following draws ire, because I just believe it: If you can, buy what you want now
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well i would if atlantic firearms would get more in stock
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Old 04-20-2020, 01:22 AM   #3
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With my extra trips to the range coz of the plague and my burning through 7.62x39 faster, I bought 500 rounds of this:
https://www.outdoorlimited.com/rifle...tip-20-rounds/
(whoops, page is gone -- it's Nosler 7.62x39, polymer-tipped rounds.)
as a splurge for my truck gun.
AND, against my better judgment, I bought my first AR-15:
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...165450299.html
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...-receiver.html
It should have come to $500 as they claimed free-shipping. But, after all the shipping charges, it came to $548.

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be glad you bought that AR. I am not kidding, I bet if November does not go well, that same thing will be 3x that price
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With my extra trips to the range coz of the plague and my burning through 7.62x39 faster, I bought 500 rounds of this:
https://www.outdoorlimited.com/rifle...tip-20-rounds/
(whoops, page is gone -- it's Nosler 7.62x39, polymer-tipped rounds.)
as a splurge for my truck gun.
AND, against my better judgment, I bought my first AR-15:
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...165450299.html
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...-receiver.html
It should have come to $500 as they claimed free-shipping. But, after all the shipping charges, it came to $548.
They really stuck it to you for shipping . Are you sure some of that wasn't taxes ?
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It’s getting stupid. They still haven’t even shipped my Spuhr stock. I’ve just been getting gun parts and better rifle furniture. Next month I might get some more spare parts in case shit breaks.

I did get a Romeo 5 XDR predator that said it was in stock and by the time I ordered it I got an email saying it might be 3 months with shitty optics planet. I think I will stop buying shit from there.
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if you want to top off ammunition, keep checking Academy for 5.56 and 9mm. Brass for both of those has been 32-34 cpr for 5.56 and 19-22 cpr for 9mm. But it is not staying in stock long. They ship lightning fast and went from $5 shipping to free shipping.

https://www.academy.com/shop/browse/...ing/ammunition
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I was not unprepared prior to this event, but I am not ashamed to say that I have been thinking "redundancy" and padding some things. I still haven't paid much of any premium over regular prices, but that is starting to take a lot more effort......

Hopefully I am wrong, (please re read that) but as I continue to see sharp price increases and shortages, I can't help but think that this is not going to pass this time. I think that at best, it runs up until November, and at worst, if Joe wins and installs Gun Grabbin' Beto….whether or not they actually grab guns, we are going to see panic that exceeds the Obola years.

In short, I really don't care if the following draws ire, because I just believe it: If you can, buy what you want now
Let me see...where have I heard this before? Oh, that's right! Right after the Sandy Hook debacle. Prices and availability will likely return to pre-ChiCom flu levels after the boots are lifted from our necks regarding the lock-downs.
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I'm out of the buying market. This is a sellers market. I'm selling off what I don't need or want now.
You can see the threads from various vendors already pushing their product perceptions to keep people focused on buying.

I have been pondering selling off one Russian AK to source a Galil Ace. Gunbroker for the win there.
The market is so goofy for Russian, it's a no brainer right now. All Zastava also goin bye bye.
The market has been convinced Zastava is worth 60% more somehow......works for me as a seller. LoL

The 'Rona Plandemic only accelerated the gun panic time table by 6 months give or take.
The election cycle inevitably brings panic buyers. Been thru several panic cycles, which is enough to know better.
We have enjoyed ~3.25 years of time to prepare for this election panic cycle.

Only other thing that stops now is my training and usage of ammunition.
I'm deferring all the attention to the other hobbies now. Hopefully my 442 gets finalized.
I'm hoping DJT wins again, and give or take within 2 months the hyper market deflates again.....just like before.

I got my 1st wave of imports Magpul Cugir RH10 which was originally $800 down to $600 in Dec 2016 after DJT won.
Watch and wait......unless of course you're really behind the curve then it sucks but is what it is.
WASR's are $850 now which is indicative of a full on nuclear market.
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Most of the gun dudes I know are past the point of buying gun stuff and are focusing more on stuff like radios and gear.

I wanted to beat the pre election panic so I started buying around a year ago; by the time the Chinese virus hysteria kicked off I had a comfortable stock.

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I got my 1st wave of imports Magpul Cugir RH10 which was originally $800 down to $600 in Dec 2016 after DJT won.
Watch and wait......unless of course you're really behind the curve then it sucks but is what it is.
WASR's are $850 now which is indicative of a full on nuclear market.
FWIW WASRs were $1100 in December 2008.
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FWIW WASRs were $1100 in December 2008.
I honestly don't think I ever saw that, not saying its untrue tho......

That would be awesome if you could find some listings, I kinda keep data on firearm prices over the years to watch and reference.
I'm curious if that was because of the ATF's Operation Fast & Furious where 500 WASR's from the US market were found in Mexico.

Romanian Weapons modified in the U.S. become scourge of Mexican drug war
https://publicintegrity.org/national...ican-drug-war/

It's no secret the US Politburo has had CIA running some Cartels profit ventures for decades now for their "off the books" war funds
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I told myself to be stocked on ammo by the beginning of 2020 and I’m pretty well set for now. Other than suddenly realizing I needed some more 22 LR for my grandsons, which I recently rectified, I’m good there.
Unfortunately there’s always a new gun that peaks my interest, but now ain’t the time to be buying. Used market might get fortunate and find some unlucky soul out of work who needs fast cash. While I’m not worried right now about Federal legislation, it’s the state level that is going full retard. We desperately need Trump for another Supreme Court pick or two to step on some of these states dicks.
And new WASRs could be found for $630-$640 about this time last year. Ammo companies were laying off and giving nice rebates. This Chinese Flu shit just accelerated things by a few months.
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You will be way better off working on food, water and cooking fuel supplies.

This catastrophe is just getting started.

The Democrat plan is for EVERYTHING to crash and burn.

TSHTF is happening, start to recognize it.
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I was buying 9mm and 556 last summer for 15% less than what I could get it online. People were liquidating their stashes. I look over armslist everyday and I'm not seeing many deals. I was able to trade a p226 for a 6.5g aero complete upper that was a great trade. Most 556 is above what you can get it online...same w/ 9mm.

I did score an oddball yesterday, some Aguila 22lr SSS for $30 a box. Its sold out everywhere for $55... kid needed money for rent and was selling a bunch of stuff. That and a Magpul D60 for $80 were the only 2 deals... everything else was priced about what you'd pay for it online, ie 50 cpr for 556. Here in NC the stuff doesn't seem to be moving as I see the same ads day after day.. I'm sure a lot of it is selling but might be taking a lot longer.

I agree that we won't see normalization till after the election. Things could ease a bit, become more available and at a slightly lower price than we are currently seeing but the 20cpr delivered steel case 556 isn't something I'm counting on.
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You will be way better off working on food, water and cooking fuel supplies.

This catastrophe is just getting started.

The Democrat plan is for EVERYTHING to crash and burn.

TSHTF is happening, start to recognize it.
Yup, folks don’t realize how close we came to living in a “Road Warrior” setting.

Somehow, by means of going on tv and showing his face along with “experts” every evening, and creating fake, purely computer generated money to add to people’s checking accounts, President Trump has held things together and the food and fuel supply continued to operate.

Of course there will be a hefty price to pay down the road, but people have food, water, utilities including internet, instead of roaming mobs of desperate folks and ordinary thugs looting and pillaging, which we would have had under a Democratic Party administration.
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im upgrading my night vision equipment and other surveillance stuff because why not
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Yup, folks don’t realize how close we came to living in a “Road Warrior” setting.

Of course there will be a hefty price to pay down the road, but people have food, water, utilities including internet, instead of roaming mobs of desperate folks and ordinary thugs looting and pillaging, which we would have had under a Democratic Party administration.
If we’d of had a Democrat administration, this shutdown would have never occurred.
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I'm only buying if I come across a few deals. Otherwise, I'm selling some AK's or optics that I don't need or people are paying enough money for me to sell. I never sell ammo because I always feel like I need more. If Trump wins again, I'll wait for prices to fall and I'll continue to stock up when I have the funds. I'm hoping that people will be concentrating on modern type guns and start selling milsurps at attractive prices. There are quite a few that I still want in my collection.
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No it will return to normal. The govt doing tax rebate just prolonged the increased pricing, but it will drop back because society will kick back up next month.
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If you guys are looking for "stuff", these guys have some odds and ends for a variety of different things: http://uniquetek.com/

I don't think I'd buy an AR kit from them, though.....

Aside from that, they usually ship next day if it's in stock.
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if you want to top off ammunition, keep checking Academy for 5.56 and 9mm. Brass for both of those has been 32-34 cpr for 5.56 and 19-22 cpr for 9mm. But it is not staying in stock long. They ship lightning fast and went from $5 shipping to free shipping.

https://www.academy.com/shop/browse/...ing/ammunition
Just curious how ur getting the free shipping? Mine showed $5 for shipping and now it’s $8. Thanks
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Just curious how ur getting the free shipping? Mine showed $5 for shipping and now it’s $8. Thanks
might be my mistake. I saw *free shipping but maybe that's not ammo now...

Its been $5 for me too. I am waiting for more of those 200 pack of Win 5.56 to come in. There is a limit of 5 but $5 shipping cost (or $8) for 1000 rounds shipped at that cost per round is as good as it gets right now.
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might be my mistake. I saw *free shipping but maybe that's not ammo now...

Its been $5 for me too. I am waiting for more of those 200 pack of Win 5.56 to come in. There is a limit of 5 but $5 shipping cost (or $8) for 1000 rounds shipped at that cost per round is as good as it gets right now.
Yeah I think it excludes ammo right now. Yeah I’m looking to pickup the bulk Winchester 9mm. But yeah $5 or even $8 for ammo shipped right now is good. Thanks again.
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They really stuck it to you for shipping . Are you sure some of that wasn't taxes ?
This. The last rifle I ordered from PSA was:



Ordered: 1
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Shipping & Handling $17.00
Grand Total (Excl.Tax) $716.99
Tax $50.19
Grand Total (Incl.Tax) $767.18
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FWIW WASRs were $1100 in December 2008.
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"Extras" to make the Armageddon "more" comfortable.. Although as I've always said, it's gonna be a bitch for EVERYONE. Comfort is a very sarcastic term...

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9mm NATO in stock now. 750 rounds $5 shipping 22 cpr

https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/win...dCatid=7541578

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Not panic buying here. Didn't the last few panics either.

One company has a good sale going on barrels. Columbia River / Black Hole has 30% off. They have AR and bolt action pre-fits. Have one of their barrels and it's a shooter.

https://columbiariverarms.com/bolt-action-prefits/
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You will be way better off working on food, water and cooking fuel supplies.

This catastrophe is just getting started.

The Democrat plan is for EVERYTHING to crash and burn.

TSHTF is happening, start to recognize it.
I agree with you !
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This. The last rifle I ordered from PSA was:



Ordered: 1
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$699.99

Shipping & Handling $17.00
Grand Total (Excl.Tax) $716.99
Tax $50.19
Grand Total (Incl.Tax) $767.18
So a good chunk of it was ' Tax ' .
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I bought a gun today...M&P 2.0 45...in my defense I have 1600
Rounds of .45 and no go to shoot it in...

Also Botach has factory 14 rounds mags for $10... so... why not
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I'm just riding this thing out.
After Sandy Hook anyone that's not in good shape arms/ammo wise.
Has no one to blame but the guy in the mirror.

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I'm out of the buying market. This is a sellers market. I'm selling off what I don't need or want now.
You can see the threads from various vendors already pushing their product perceptions to keep people focused on buying.

I have been pondering selling off one Russian AK to source a Galil Ace. Gunbroker for the win there.
The market is so goofy for Russian, it's a no brainer right now. All Zastava also goin bye bye.
The market has been convinced Zastava is worth 60% more somehow......works for me as a seller. LoL
Agreed on all counts. If you’re a seller the time to do so is rapidly approaching.

I’ve got my to sell stash ready & waiting. Half AR’s (all 6920’s) half AK’s, some really sought after variants. My entire 74 collection will be sold this year. And all of it will be sold on gunbroker. I’ve listed a few items here & on some local forums at what I think are fair prices just to test the market & see if it’s worth the hassle to try & move them that way. But it’s not, I get no interest at all. Everyone bitches about gunbroker prices but the truth is that’s the best firearms marketplace available.
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Nothing will go back to the way things were pre-pandemic. Forget that shit.
There will be no festivities or normal holidays this year. 4th of July, Thanksgiving, Christmas, all cancelled due to crybaby snowflakes and pandemic worshipers and just plain lazy fuckers that never want to go back to work again. Sociopath snowflakes that want a free ride.
I would sell even the worst of my shit to any panic buyer for any price. I'll burn it or bury it first. Fuck 'em.
I think I bought some clearance 12ga #2 shot and a 500rd box of 36gr 22LR HP off the store shelf a few weeks ago. Mainly just because it was there looking all homeless and shit.
I've been swapping tac lights and gear on some of my things. Put a sling on tha Rem 870 Police. Not sure if useful or not.
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Many of us, I am sure, stocked up during the last panic. I did. If you din't, get what you can now you won't regret it. Meat producers are shuttering their plants, food bank lines are in the hundreds. It's just a matter of time. I bought some .22 for my father-in-laws Marlin 80 bolt gun (only .22 I have) and some 9mm defense rounds for my new MPX-K that will be my new backpack and home defense gun. If you don't need it, leave it for the next guy who does.
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