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Old 05-07-2020, 02:32 PM   #1
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Just picked up another 104fr and put on plum furniture. Purchased the rifle unfired from a member here. Sourced a nice example of a Izzy plum magazine from a member here as well. The other furniture pieces are from Gunbroker. Here it is side by side with the standard back polymer.






I think I like the plum better.
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Old 05-07-2020, 03:25 PM   #2
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Nice! I like the plum. The mag's sweet too.

I've got two plum AKs myself.
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When i first got in to aks, i absolutely couldn’t stand plum. Fast forward a few years and if it’s not my favorite Ak furniture set, it’s damn near close. Just something about it. Did we ever get the real reason that they chose the plum color ?
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Love the plum!
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When i first got in to aks, i absolutely couldnít stand plum. Fast forward a few years and if itís not my favorite Ak furniture set, itís damn near close. Just something about it. Did we ever get the real reason that they chose the plum color ?
If I remember correctly, it was the early Soviet attempts at producing polymers for military applications. The batch producing the plum color resulted in adequate durability and strength, so in classic Russian pragmatism, it was put in use. The color of the polymer was most likely a secondary concern. I'm sure there a few people that could chime in.
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Just picked up another 104fr and put on plum furniture. Purchased the rifle unfired from a member here. Sourced a nice example of a Izzy plum magazine from a member here as well. The other furniture pieces are from Gunbroker. Here it is side by side with the standard back polymer.






I think I like the plum better.
NICE! Congrats. Love the plum.
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Old 05-07-2020, 06:50 PM   #7
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Your 74's are great, thanks for posting pictures. I have a family of 74's in plum, black & wood finishes. They come in fixed & folding stocks from back in the day when Todd was selling them out of ORF! I see you have kept the white / silver numbering on the carrier as I have done also.
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If I remember correctly, it was the early Soviet attempts at producing polymers for military applications. The batch producing the plum color resulted in adequate durability and strength, so in classic Russian pragmatism, it was put in use. The color of the polymer was most likely a secondary concern. I'm sure there a few people that could chime in.
As per my sig line, I get to hold all kinds of interesting conversations with friends outside the country on topics like that.

I was told the original black formula was too brittle, and adding a touch of purple dye to the mix gave the necessary flex for military acceptance.

Plum is one of my favorites, right up there with the dull orange of my Polish AKM. Prior to acquiring a proper plum set, I tried making one. It...didn`t go according to plan.



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Plum looks amazing.

Now... you have to find a plum bayonet to go with it!

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Your 74's are great, thanks for posting pictures. I have a family of 74's in plum, black & wood finishes. They come in fixed & folding stocks from back in the day when Todd was selling them out of ORF! I see you have kept the white / silver numbering on the carrier as I have done also.
Thanks, something about plum that stirs up emotions for me.
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A few more plum pics, couldn't resist.



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Plum 74 folder.. Doesn't get much better than that!
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Plum 74 folder.. Doesn't get much better than that!
I 100% agree. Like someone else who posted here, I at first didn't like the plum color over the shellac laminate and the black polymer furniture, but man... did it grow on me, so much so that I would say it's now my favorite.

Izzy triangle folder, shiny plum grip mold#1-2, Izzy plum magazine, and Russian plum furniture... match made in heaven.
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A few more plum pics, couldn't resist.



Feeling it.

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Yep Plum is a good color on a 104

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Plum with the triangle folder and 545 mag is sexy af
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I think I'm going to Zenitco one of my 104FR's with my Trump bucks. But I'll keep the barrel the way it is. I like the alpha look, but I don't want to go through the NFA stuff. Has anyone here "alpha'd" a 104FR while keeping the barrel unmodified? Does the long barrel look awkward or is it able to pull off the tacticool spetsnaz look?
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As per my sig line, I get to hold all kinds of interesting conversations with friends outside the country on topics like that.

I was told the original black formula was too brittle, and adding a touch of purple dye to the mix gave the necessary flex for military acceptance.
I've heard a lot of theories regarding how plum came to be, and I'm not saying yours isn't the true history of what happened (I sure as heck don't know), but one thing that gives me pause about the theory is this: the civilian population and museums have in the subsequent decades managed to acquire some very very rare prototypes (stuff like AG-4V mold #1 green border guard mags, and things of that kind of rarity). If there were prototypes done in black prior to plum, it seems likely that at least a couple of them would have survived in collectors hands or whatever. I mean, that green beaver barf mag is crazy rare--I think there's only 2 in the world. If both of those can 'come to light', I'd think an "early true black' would have surfaced as well. I've never heard of such a mag being described, let alone seen pics, which makes me suspicious.

If I had to guess, and it IS a guess, I'd say that it's the result of either the 'there's no true black in nature' theory (e.g. the color was completely intentional) or they didn't have the technology, or the access to the technology/material, necessary to make a 'true black' at the time a replacement for AG4 was being researched/tested/adopted. There's no shame in that. Most other countries in the world weren't issuing plastic mags in the early 80s. The USA was still a long ways away from buying Pmags.

It's also possible that the reason was pure corruption. Maybe some big shot defense minister or general had a brother that did industrial plastics. You never can tell about these things.
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I've heard a lot of theories regarding how plum came to be, and I'm not saying yours isn't the true history of what happened (I sure as heck don't know), but one thing that gives me pause about the theory is this: the civilian population and museums have in the subsequent decades managed to acquire some very very rare prototypes (stuff like AG-4V mold #1 green border guard mags, and things of that kind of rarity). If there were prototypes done in black prior to plum, it seems likely that at least a couple of them would have survived in collectors hands or whatever. I mean, that green beaver barf mag is crazy rare--I think there's only 2 in the world. If both of those can 'come to light', I'd think an "early true black' would have surfaced as well. I've never heard of such a mag being described, let alone seen pics, which makes me suspicious.

If I had to guess, and it IS a guess, I'd say that it's the result of either the 'there's no true black in nature' theory (e.g. the color was completely intentional) or they didn't have the technology, or the access to the technology/material, necessary to make a 'true black' at the time a replacement for AG4 was being researched/tested/adopted. There's no shame in that. Most other countries in the world weren't issuing plastic mags in the early 80s. The USA was still a long ways away from buying Pmags.

It's also possible that the reason was pure corruption. Maybe some big shot defense minister or general had a brother that did industrial plastics. You never can tell about these things.
No, no, you bring up a very good point. However at the same time I`m left to wonder as to the authenticity of the "Experimental" items being sold on the secondary market as well...

Whatever happened all those years ago, plum is one of my favorite furniture colors.
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