Hungarian SKS???

deerollman · 11-11-2005, 09:58 PM

i was recently chatting with someone regarding rifles and he told me he had a something or other, "basically a hungarian SKS." i had never heard of such a thing. when i googled it, all i came up with was that they may or may not exist. does anyone know anything on this? he said he was goingto sell it, so if its a chance to pick up a rare rifle i'd like to jump on it. thanks

boss_hogg01 · 11-12-2005, 12:19 AM

There is no such thing, guarunteed.

Mactrekr · 11-12-2005, 08:43 AM

He probably mistook it for hungarian, but it is most likely romanian. To the best of my knowlege, the SKS was manufactured in China, Yugoslavia, Romania, Russia, Albania, E. Germany (Suspected). and that's it. There are rumors of N. Korean knockoffs, and Vietnamese Manufacture, but I really think that all the countrys licensed to manufacture sks's are listed.
Mac

deerollman · 11-12-2005, 03:28 PM

when i see him again ill ask him if i can see it sometime, and report what i see here. hes an honest guy, so hes prob mistaken, but i still want to see for curiosityy's sake-d

chefbeef · 11-12-2005, 05:47 PM

I have a friend of mine who has a North Korean SKS he brought back from Vietnam in 68. He said it was the only one he saw like that the rest of them where the Chi-com built ones.
Peace,
Craig

Mactrekr · 11-13-2005, 12:05 PM

NK SKS's were usually made in China and "finished" in North Korea, same with Vietnamese SKS's. They would stamp them with Korean or Viet markings, but to the best of my knowlege they were actually manufactured in China. Some even manufactured in Russia, but I've never heard of those being stamped by the receiving country.
Mac

frenchy · 11-14-2005, 12:50 AM

I used to collect SKSs in the mid 70s till the mid 80s-I oned 2 N.Korean made SKSs as well as those of N.Vietnam,E.Germany(still have the capture papers for it)Russia,and many different models of the ChiCom(variations)-I firmly believe that the N.Koreans made there own-There blueing was the most colorfull-there machine work was no were as clean as the ChiCom,Russian,ect.And they had a gas shut off on one of mine-So I believe that the N.Korean made there own-Now the N.Vietnamese that I had were very well made-Now if they were made there or by out side contract is a good question ?-I really can't say one way or another there.In the early 80s I only knew of around 6 Yugo SKSs and I did not own any-Then Tom Nelson brought some in and they were at around $1,200 a copy-way to rich for my blood at that time.-No one at that time even heard of a SKS made in Albania.I see pictures of Polish soliders with SKSs-did the Poles make them?-why not! they made the M44 -Again I can not comment much on that-As I unloaded most of my SKSs in the 80s and only kept the ones that I brought home-and a few Russians that I picked up cheap from buddies of mine plus a few imports-Back then,in the early 80s,nice clean matching ChiCom and Russian SKSs would cost me any were from $250 to $350 As did all the rest.I only had 2 E.German in my collection,2/3 N.Koreans?1 Romanian.No Yugos-All the Rest were Russian and early and late made ChiCom.Good used SKS chect pouches were around $85/$100 depending on condition,AK chest pouches-with mags around $250-no mags and in really nice condition-$85/$125.Now they are all over the place form around $12-$25-But back then-The only stuff to be had -was the gear that guys like myself brought or sent home-same with the ammo-I still have almost a full can of ChiCom ammo(7.62x39)left.All part of my "war story"One more thing-The N.Koreans made a very good PPSH41-it looked better then there SKS-as far as the finish went.After all the imports came in, the prices of all SKSs came down to liveable prices-I seen real nice clean used ChiComs awhile back-dealers price was $65 each,Near new Russians or new-$135.00 each-Now that made collecting them a lot easier-New Yugos-$150.00/not $1,200.I wish it was like that in the mid 70s-my best-Frenchy

Mactrekr · 11-15-2005, 08:50 AM

There you have it, Frenchy knows what he's talking about! Thanks for the clarification, I'd LOVE to see pics of the E. German and the Korean. I've owned all the standard ones, the Chicom, Yugo, romanian, Albanian and a russian. I've only got my Chinese and Russian left now.
Mac

frenchy · 11-15-2005, 02:21 PM

-Thanks for the uplift reply-You younger collectors now have it over us old dogs of yesterday-You have far better equipment to record and photograph all your collection and gear-I advise that you do so-All I have left of some very nice and serious collection,Is a book with serial numbers-very few pictures-I have more pictures now of my latest collections-that is very common gear-But nothing of my SKSs,Sigs,Cetems(all variations)-earlyARs and 180s,ect,ect-the list could fill this page-Record all of your collection-by both pictures and numbers-Just to have it - At the time I was collecting SKSs-there was no printed material or research on them-Even our Gov. wouldn't let out what little that they knew abut the SKS.So small groups of collectors/owners would exchange what differences they noticed in the ones that they had.But most noticed the the most changes were in the ChiCom made ones,from the blade to the spike-too export models,production changes and things of that sort.To this day - I think if a person has the(1) want an (2)the resources($$$$s)-He can get together a real nice collection of SKSs, at a very liveable price.And will always be able to get back his investment.The SKS will always be a collectable rifle-I don't collect them any more-but I still run into the great many guys that I meet in my quest to have a rounded out collection at that time-But like I stated in my other post-That was a collection that i started in the early 70s and sold them in the mid 80s.Back then they really meant something to me and the history that they had with them.I never bought or traded for one because of its worth-I just wanted to have a nice collection-which I did.And the prices I paid for some are more then they would sell for now-But I was a collector-My only regret is that I did not take the time and photograph them as I do my "now" collections-Take pictures(get doubles)-You can always say -here it is,even if its only a picture(better then a drawing)-sincerely-Frenchy

einheit 13 · 11-27-2005, 05:32 PM

I have an E German SKS, and a Romanian with Hungarian arsenal marks........at least I think the "02" still ment a Hungarian Arsenal?

11-11-2005, 09:58 PM	#1
deerollman Senior Member AKaholic #: 2864 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 562	Hungarian SKS??? i was recently chatting with someone regarding rifles and he told me he had a something or other, "basically a hungarian SKS." i had never heard of such a thing. when i googled it, all i came up with was that they may or may not exist. does anyone know anything on this? he said he was goingto sell it, so if its a chance to pick up a rare rifle i'd like to jump on it. thanks

11-12-2005, 08:43 AM	#3
Mactrekr Senior Member AKaholic #: 3046 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Arizona, South East Posts: 972	He probably mistook it for hungarian, but it is most likely romanian. To the best of my knowlege, the SKS was manufactured in China, Yugoslavia, Romania, Russia, Albania, E. Germany (Suspected). and that's it. There are rumors of N. Korean knockoffs, and Vietnamese Manufacture, but I really think that all the countrys licensed to manufacture sks's are listed. Mac __________________ My feeling is that the hero has now been defined by phrases like the odious one that we were all raised with - crimes does not pay. Of course it pays, you schmuck. That's not why we don't do it. We don't do it because it is wrong ~ Frank Miller

11-13-2005, 12:05 PM	#6
Mactrekr Senior Member AKaholic #: 3046 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Arizona, South East Posts: 972	NK SKS's were usually made in China and "finished" in North Korea, same with Vietnamese SKS's. They would stamp them with Korean or Viet markings, but to the best of my knowlege they were actually manufactured in China. Some even manufactured in Russia, but I've never heard of those being stamped by the receiving country. Mac __________________ My feeling is that the hero has now been defined by phrases like the odious one that we were all raised with - crimes does not pay. Of course it pays, you schmuck. That's not why we don't do it. We don't do it because it is wrong ~ Frank Miller

11-15-2005, 08:50 AM	#8
Mactrekr Senior Member AKaholic #: 3046 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Arizona, South East Posts: 972	There you have it, Frenchy knows what he's talking about! Thanks for the clarification, I'd LOVE to see pics of the E. German and the Korean. I've owned all the standard ones, the Chicom, Yugo, romanian, Albanian and a russian. I've only got my Chinese and Russian left now. Mac __________________ My feeling is that the hero has now been defined by phrases like the odious one that we were all raised with - crimes does not pay. Of course it pays, you schmuck. That's not why we don't do it. We don't do it because it is wrong ~ Frank Miller

11-12-2005, 12:19 AM	#2
boss_hogg01 Member AKaholic #: 4661 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 59	There is no such thing, guarunteed.

11-12-2005, 03:28 PM	#4
deerollman Senior Member AKaholic #: 2864 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 562	when i see him again ill ask him if i can see it sometime, and report what i see here. hes an honest guy, so hes prob mistaken, but i still want to see for curiosityy's sake-d

11-12-2005, 05:47 PM	#5
chefbeef Member Gold Contributor AKaholic #: 83 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 446	I have a friend of mine who has a North Korean SKS he brought back from Vietnam in 68. He said it was the only one he saw like that the rest of them where the Chi-com built ones. Peace, Craig

11-14-2005, 12:50 AM	#7
frenchy Member AKaholic #: 2671 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NY/Pa./& Fla. Posts: 98	I used to collect SKSs in the mid 70s till the mid 80s-I oned 2 N.Korean made SKSs as well as those of N.Vietnam,E.Germany(still have the capture papers for it)Russia,and many different models of the ChiCom(variations)-I firmly believe that the N.Koreans made there own-There blueing was the most colorfull-there machine work was no were as clean as the ChiCom,Russian,ect.And they had a gas shut off on one of mine-So I believe that the N.Korean made there own-Now the N.Vietnamese that I had were very well made-Now if they were made there or by out side contract is a good question ?-I really can't say one way or another there.In the early 80s I only knew of around 6 Yugo SKSs and I did not own any-Then Tom Nelson brought some in and they were at around $1,200 a copy-way to rich for my blood at that time.-No one at that time even heard of a SKS made in Albania.I see pictures of Polish soliders with SKSs-did the Poles make them?-why not! they made the M44 -Again I can not comment much on that-As I unloaded most of my SKSs in the 80s and only kept the ones that I brought home-and a few Russians that I picked up cheap from buddies of mine plus a few imports-Back then,in the early 80s,nice clean matching ChiCom and Russian SKSs would cost me any were from $250 to $350 As did all the rest.I only had 2 E.German in my collection,2/3 N.Koreans?1 Romanian.No Yugos-All the Rest were Russian and early and late made ChiCom.Good used SKS chect pouches were around $85/$100 depending on condition,AK chest pouches-with mags around $250-no mags and in really nice condition-$85/$125.Now they are all over the place form around $12-$25-But back then-The only stuff to be had -was the gear that guys like myself brought or sent home-same with the ammo-I still have almost a full can of ChiCom ammo(7.62x39)left.All part of my "war story"One more thing-The N.Koreans made a very good PPSH41-it looked better then there SKS-as far as the finish went.After all the imports came in, the prices of all SKSs came down to liveable prices-I seen real nice clean used ChiComs awhile back-dealers price was $65 each,Near new Russians or new-$135.00 each-Now that made collecting them a lot easier-New Yugos-$150.00/not $1,200.I wish it was like that in the mid 70s-my best-Frenchy

11-15-2005, 02:21 PM	#9
frenchy Member AKaholic #: 2671 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NY/Pa./& Fla. Posts: 98	-Thanks for the uplift reply-You younger collectors now have it over us old dogs of yesterday-You have far better equipment to record and photograph all your collection and gear-I advise that you do so-All I have left of some very nice and serious collection,Is a book with serial numbers-very few pictures-I have more pictures now of my latest collections-that is very common gear-But nothing of my SKSs,Sigs,Cetems(all variations)-earlyARs and 180s,ect,ect-the list could fill this page-Record all of your collection-by both pictures and numbers-Just to have it - At the time I was collecting SKSs-there was no printed material or research on them-Even our Gov. wouldn't let out what little that they knew abut the SKS.So small groups of collectors/owners would exchange what differences they noticed in the ones that they had.But most noticed the the most changes were in the ChiCom made ones,from the blade to the spike-too export models,production changes and things of that sort.To this day - I think if a person has the(1) want an (2)the resources($$$$s)-He can get together a real nice collection of SKSs, at a very liveable price.And will always be able to get back his investment.The SKS will always be a collectable rifle-I don't collect them any more-but I still run into the great many guys that I meet in my quest to have a rounded out collection at that time-But like I stated in my other post-That was a collection that i started in the early 70s and sold them in the mid 80s.Back then they really meant something to me and the history that they had with them.I never bought or traded for one because of its worth-I just wanted to have a nice collection-which I did.And the prices I paid for some are more then they would sell for now-But I was a collector-My only regret is that I did not take the time and photograph them as I do my "now" collections-Take pictures(get doubles)-You can always say -here it is,even if its only a picture(better then a drawing)-sincerely-Frenchy

11-27-2005, 05:32 PM	#10
einheit 13 New Member AKaholic #: 4679 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hampton, Va Posts: 22	I have an E German SKS, and a Romanian with Hungarian arsenal marks........at least I think the "02" still ment a Hungarian Arsenal?

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