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Old 10-16-2005, 08:05 PM   #1
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Default .308 Indian ????

Headstamp OFV 75 7.62 M80 Is this stuff corrosive? I dout it and really don't care cause I shoot a lot of corrosive 7.92x57 But made in India in 1975??? I'd like to know regardless Thanks alot
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Old 10-16-2005, 08:43 PM   #2
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Yugo -

It is NOT corrosive.

Indian .308 ammo is a hot-button issue. I'll guess 98% of .308 shooters will tell you to avoid it like the plague.

I run it in my CETME and 1919. I've had fairly good results, except for two broken casings IN the chamber. A good investment would be a broken shell extractor. It will probably happen.

You should sort it out carefully if that's what you plan to use. The depth of seating on the FIFTEEN THOUSAND + ROUNDS I've purchased has varied by as much as 1/4". And look close at the necks - you'll find many are crimped. From my experience, about 1 in 200 is "un-shootable". That is why it's so cheap!

Be careful with the stuff. Most folks hate it and consider it unsafe. There are many threads on the CETME sites ealing with this. I would recommend you never shoot it in anything expensive like an HK, M14 or M1A match rifle.

Some of you others chime in here so Yugo gets some balanced feedback......I'm pretty sure it will be negative.

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Old 10-16-2005, 08:54 PM   #3
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Well as far as the Expensive thing goes, I been shooting it out of a CETME, and a Ruger M77 MkII Heavy barrel I've shot some thousand plus rounds of the indian stuff out of the Ruger and never culled any of them. I never shoot for extreme accuracy, my wife and practice for center mass hits only. Good enough to put a man down good enough for me. We hit inside a six inch square steel plate at 100 and 300 yrds every time with it, it goes bang and tears the hell out of the steel plate. This is the first alarm on the stuff being unsafe, well I guess i will have to look into it. thanks
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Old 10-16-2005, 09:06 PM   #4
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Do a search on it over on the falfiles and you'll turn up a bunch of stuff, mostly unfavorable. Perro's CETME site really slams it...

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Old 10-17-2005, 07:36 PM   #5
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You really gotta cull the stuff that's packed in the 10 round plastic bags. I bought 5k of it and have shot about a k. Out of that bunch there were right at 200 that were unshootable and I pulled the bullets on. Century has been importing the mid 70's stuff and it's not as bad as the later stuff. Just watch yourself and eyeball each round.
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:44 PM   #6
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The ammo I've been getting doesn't come in ten rnd packs(although I have seen what you are talking about) I comes in 100 rnd sealed plastic bags. Does that mean anything, probably not
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Old 10-17-2005, 10:57 PM   #7
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I have gone through 5K plus rounds of this stuff without an issue. I use it in my FAL and CETME. I do buy it from http://www.jgsales.com/ for $100 per 1000 rounds. They have already seached through each 10 round pack and pulled any bad rounds.
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Old 10-17-2005, 11:06 PM   #8
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I have gone through about 800 rds of OFV-00. Absolutely no complaints. not one bad round so far. I have heard that all the problems with this ammo is from 90's headstamped ammo. if your's is 70's then you should be good. But as always don't take some one else's word if you don't feel safe using it then sell it.
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Old 10-25-2005, 04:54 PM   #9
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OK,
What's the culling criteria, cracks, poor seating, besides the obvious because I have experienced a case sep in my 1919.... Heard beware of 90s, seating issues, etc. Will cull, need some criteria based on yall's experience... thx

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Old 10-25-2005, 06:01 PM   #10
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I basically did a visual on OAL, neck defects and last but not least,
I shook every round and listened for the sound of light loads. There
were no light loads.
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Old 10-27-2005, 08:46 AM   #11
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I have seen an M60 blown up with Indian, enuf for me. I have seen Indian pulled apart with grass mixed in the powder. I would not waste my time or endanger my safety with it.....
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:07 PM   #12
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im a member of the fal files. the indian most people are scared of but people need the truth. if its in blister packs avoid it like a vanarial disease, that stuff has been shot and the brass melted down and reloaded in a sweat shop onto belt ammo. then they paid some monkeys to delink it and repack it in 10 round plastic blisters. ive shot alot of it in the bandoliers and its good stuff. check each bullet. the 90's in blisters you get 10 out of 50 rounds bad. the 70's ofv ive shot about 500 rounds in the last 2 months and found only one bad round and thats cause it had a big dent in it. in other words just avoid the 90's stuff and stick with the 70's in bandoliers. i just got 2 ammo cans full of port. and holy cow that is some sweet ammo. i think im spoiled now
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Old 11-11-2005, 11:48 PM   #13
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If you can find any of the Aussie F4 that is GREAT stuff! This is not to be confused with the Aussie contract ammo made in Argentina I believe. I purchased MANY MANY MANY cases of the F4 and wish there was more available.
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:52 AM   #14
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i got a few hundred rounds in the 10 round blister packs ran threw a about 20 rounds some felt weak some kicked like hell last one din't eject and i almost cleared it and shot agein but stoped and checked my rifle and found the bullet about 1/3 the way down the barrel thank god i didn't just keep shooting i've seen pictures of all kinds of weapons blown up with this crap from what i've gatherd on line the two digets in the head stamp are the date and all pre 2000 is the really bad crap after the squib i threw all the stuff i had away from what i gathered some of the brass is messed up and not safe to reload but some people are doing it any way i'd rather be safe than sorry i'll never buy or shoot any of this crap
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Old 11-21-2005, 03:38 PM   #15
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Lucky me.....
Got OFV 97 stuff. Cheap, but look at all the fun you can have in the gamble!!!! Visually checked it today and all looked good on outside.. I have had a case sep in 1919. Guess I will do same thing I'm doing for my Chilean stuff... Weigh all cartridges, do second insp, cull top 10-20%.... That'll have to work..... Only spent 70 on case....

My inspection of the pkged 10 per clear plastic bag stuff resulted in good outcome. Only saw diff of 1/16 in seating, only one was squashed funny, and no crimp issues... Will drive on but carefully, recycle it, or give it away w/ warnings from above....

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Old 11-21-2005, 10:20 PM   #16
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I'm with creator0203 on this one. I have shot over 1000 rounds of the 70s OFV that comes in bandoliers and haven’t had a problem. I avoid the blister pack stuff. The word I got is that the blister pack stuff is reject ammo that has been stripped off MG belts.

I worry about two kinds of ammo. Anything repackaged and anything recently manufactured. I avoid repackaged stuff because I don’t know what it really is. I avoid recently manufactured stuff because there is only one reason to dump recent stuff (poor quality). I favor older stuff in sealed cans. It is old because someone considered it worth keeping. Now it is being replaced because it is old. But that’s ok because ammo doesn’t usually go bad if it is sealed.
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