Winchester white box 9mm, problems with it?

bill3542 · 04-08-2011, 06:46 AM

alright i gotta Hungarian FEG Browning HP clone and noticed yesterday at the range there where issues with Winchester ammo not ejecting properly, the empty case just stays in the chamber. i was also shooting Federal, Remington, PMC, and some Danish 9mm surplus. i had no problems with any of it and the pistol worked fine.
so is there a possible issue with extractor claw on pistol or problem with Winchester cases being out of spec or just a pistol that doesn't like certain ammo.

knall · 04-08-2011, 06:59 AM

Looks like you answered your own question, if you tried 4 other brands and they all worked...... I guess your gun doesn't like WWB.

My guns all love the stuff and I have never had a problem with it.

If you just got the gun, I would suggest taking a close look at the extractor anyways.

SGT. MAC · 04-09-2011, 09:26 AM

Never had a problem with WWB out of my Browing Hi-power Mk III. Check that extractor.

flopshot · 04-09-2011, 10:20 AM

what SGT said makes sense. are the rims on the white box stuff the same as the others? might be right on the edge of the spec and your extractor may be as well though it pulls the others without issue. it's a stacked tolerances thing perhaps.
my BIL had the same issue,( intermittent extraction of another brand ), with a Browning, and a new extractor fixed it. otherwise there's not much you can do.

SGT. MAC · 04-09-2011, 05:01 PM

Although, it is not uncommon for 9mm to be finicky. My Walthers PPS and P99 do not like Silver Bear steel cased 9mm. My dad's Simpson Luger really likes PMC but not WWB or Federal.

The only problem I have had with the BHP is with steel cased ammo and the Argentine 17 rd mags.

I have heard that the WWB is reloaded brass, and sometimes you can get a "squib" round that is loaded kind of weak. I cannot prove that, but that might have something to do with the failure to eject.

bill3542 · 04-09-2011, 06:20 PM

i'm gonna compare rims on the various types but its souding like a extractor issue with this. thanks gents

RevRon · 04-13-2011, 08:22 PM

I have had mixed success with WWB. My hi-point c-9 absolutely hates it while my p99 only somewhat hates it. The problem with Winchester white box is that it is loaded near the maximum length SAAMI allows. Put a round of your Winchester next to a few other 9mm rounds and you should easily notice that the Winchester stuff is longer.

notguilty · 04-14-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RevRon

I have had mixed success with WWB. My hi-point c-9 absolutely hates it while my p99 only somewhat hates it..... Put a round of your Winchester next to a few other 9mm rounds and you should easily notice that the Winchester stuff is longer.

Hi-Point recommends not using it because of that,but my 995 runs it fine along with my other 9s.

04-08-2011, 06:46 AM	#1
bill3542 Curio & Relic Contributor AKaholic #: 64 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Co.PA Posts: 2,065	Winchester white box 9mm, problems with it? alright i gotta Hungarian FEG Browning HP clone and noticed yesterday at the range there where issues with Winchester ammo not ejecting properly, the empty case just stays in the chamber. i was also shooting Federal, Remington, PMC, and some Danish 9mm surplus. i had no problems with any of it and the pistol worked fine. so is there a possible issue with extractor claw on pistol or problem with Winchester cases being out of spec or just a pistol that doesn't like certain ammo. __________________ One of the few people to legally walk around a airport with a gun!! ( armed security )

04-09-2011, 10:20 AM	#4
flopshot Veteran Member AKaholic #: 5483 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,512	what SGT said makes sense. are the rims on the white box stuff the same as the others? might be right on the edge of the spec and your extractor may be as well though it pulls the others without issue. it's a stacked tolerances thing perhaps. my BIL had the same issue,( intermittent extraction of another brand ), with a Browning, and a new extractor fixed it. otherwise there's not much you can do. __________________ Chris Mathews reveals to everyone that obama is indeed the Kwisatz Haderach.....

04-09-2011, 06:20 PM	#6
bill3542 Curio & Relic Contributor AKaholic #: 64 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Co.PA Posts: 2,065	i'm gonna compare rims on the various types but its souding like a extractor issue with this. thanks gents __________________ One of the few people to legally walk around a airport with a gun!! ( armed security )

04-08-2011, 06:59 AM	#2
knall Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 5181 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: northern NH Posts: 4,302	Looks like you answered your own question, if you tried 4 other brands and they all worked...... I guess your gun doesn't like WWB. My guns all love the stuff and I have never had a problem with it. If you just got the gun, I would suggest taking a close look at the extractor anyways.

04-09-2011, 09:26 AM	#3
SGT. MAC Senior Member AKaholic #: 15525 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 570	Never had a problem with WWB out of my Browing Hi-power Mk III. Check that extractor.

04-09-2011, 05:01 PM	#5
SGT. MAC Senior Member AKaholic #: 15525 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 570	Although, it is not uncommon for 9mm to be finicky. My Walthers PPS and P99 do not like Silver Bear steel cased 9mm. My dad's Simpson Luger really likes PMC but not WWB or Federal. The only problem I have had with the BHP is with steel cased ammo and the Argentine 17 rd mags. I have heard that the WWB is reloaded brass, and sometimes you can get a "squib" round that is loaded kind of weak. I cannot prove that, but that might have something to do with the failure to eject.

04-13-2011, 08:22 PM	#7
RevRon Hill Jack AKaholic #: 156404 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Southern Ohio Posts: 1,756	I have had mixed success with WWB. My hi-point c-9 absolutely hates it while my p99 only somewhat hates it. The problem with Winchester white box is that it is loaded near the maximum length SAAMI allows. Put a round of your Winchester next to a few other 9mm rounds and you should easily notice that the Winchester stuff is longer.

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