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Old 03-05-2011, 09:44 PM   #1
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Default Wolf 60gr 5.45x39 spam can?

http://www.kyimports.com/index.php?m...roducts_id=200 Has anyone used this ammo? I was under the impression that the only 5.45x39 in spam cans was Russian and Bulgarian 53gr surplus that was corrosive. I don't know what the can markings are so I was just wondering if this is indeed 60gr non-corrosive Wolf brand? I would love to have a sealed tin of non-corrosive 5.45 but at almost twice the price I'm not sure about this stuff. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance folks!
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Old 03-05-2011, 10:37 PM   #2
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Commercial ammo also comes packed in SPam cans if you order it that way. That stuff looks like the polymer coated black box Wolf I bought a few years back in plain cardboard cases. Of course, back then it was about $80 per 1000 delivered.....
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Thanks for straightening me out on that.
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Old 03-06-2011, 10:49 AM   #4
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what that the brass covered stuff? of still bisteele?..because on the link it says steele case...
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Almost all Commie produced AK ammo is steel cased and has a steel jacketed bullet, usually copper or brass plated to ease bbl wear and prevent rusting. The cases are usually lacquered to prevent rust, Wolf now uses a thin plastic coating. Most Russian ammo of all types is steel case/jacket as well.

Brass is expensive, the Yugo is the only commonly available "conventional" AK ammo out there (brass case and jacket).
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Old 03-10-2011, 06:45 PM   #6
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that ammo was made in 79, I wouldn't count on it being non corrosive
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:05 AM   #7
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that ammo was made in 79, I wouldn't count on it being non corrosive

For sure that Picture is Russian surplus, made in 79, and certainly CORROSIVE!

And priced $100 more a tin of 1080 than AIM surplus! Either their picture or description is wrong for sure at KYIMPORTS.
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Commercial ammo also comes packed in SPam cans if you order it that way.
What markings should you look for in order to identify it as Wolf brand or non-corrosive ammo?
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Their ad says "new commercial",but the can has a 79 in more than one place. I'm not betting its new,but several decades old. I could be in error.
Looking thru the prices on their site,it seems like they are about 25-30% higher than most other well-worn ammo dealers,like AIM.
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What markings should you look for in order to identify it as Wolf brand or non-corrosive ammo?
The 7.62 made by Tula says:

MADE IN RUSSIA
SMALL ARMS AMMUNITION
7.62x39mm LCB NON CORROSIVE
640rds lot no XXXXX

Haven't seen any commercial 5.45 SPAM yet, but I would think similar. The can they are showing is Russian Surplus from several years ago, but the ammo they are showing doesn't look like Russian surplus. The surplus is green lacquered, what they are showing looks like the grey polymer on current production commercial stuff. Maybe they got their can pics mixed up, or figured a can is a can and use the one image for both types?

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So I take it that the civilian, non-corrosive ammo that is packed in "spam cans" is clearly marked, and isn't packed in 1080rd cans. From what you have just said I'll treat any further claims of 1080rd spam can packed non corrosive 5.45x39 as probably B.S. At least until I see something definite. Looking at the photos on the link I posted, even I can discern the year on the can and pretty much ID it as surplus. I just wanted to get some input from more knowledgeable hands.
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So I take it that the civilian, non-corrosive ammo that is packed in "spam cans" is clearly marked, and isn't packed in 1080rd cans. From what you have just said I'll treat any further claims of 1080rd spam can packed non corrosive 5.45x39 as probably B.S. At least until I see something definite. Looking at the photos on the link I posted, even I can discern the year on the can and pretty much ID it as surplus. I just wanted to get some input from more knowledgeable hands.

Exactly: The military 5.45x39 is packed in paper 30rd bundles...ONLY this packaging will fit 1080 into that standard ComBloc can. If you do see commercial 5.45 in cans (and they do make such a critter)..it will be in 20 or 25rd boxes and packed this way... you can only fit 750rds or so into the standard can.
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Exactly: The military 5.45x39 is packed in paper 30rd bundles...ONLY this packaging will fit 1080 into that standard ComBloc can. If you do see commercial 5.45 in cans (and they do make such a critter)..it will be in 20 or 25rd boxes and packed this way... you can only fit 750rds or so into the standard can.
ammolab, thanks to you, KernelKrink and the rest of the guys for putting out the straight scoop! That's exactly the info I was looking for.
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