ak-105 kit?

gilbasa1 · 01-08-2011, 07:13 PM

i just picked up an ak-105 parts kit. the kit has no numbers matching, but was headspaced properly by the previous owner and passes the go gauge. has anyone ever seen one of these kits before? i look at kits quite a bit and i have never seen one. what would you say its worth?

Jumprefusal · 01-09-2011, 12:51 PM

They aren't common anymore but if you post a WTB there are usually a few sellers out there. Generally I would say they are between 600-700, but they may be worth more now.

gilbasa1 · 01-09-2011, 02:28 PM

thank you. i just got into the wonderful world of aks a couple years ago and know a little bit from what i read but have not heard much about these kits. i suppose i got a good deal paying $400 for the kit. thanks again

fearrainsdown · 01-09-2011, 03:15 PM

if its an actual russian 105 kit, with the correct russian fsb gb combo, actual russian 5.45 muzzle booster, russian marked 500m rear sight, correct trigger guard, correct russian side folding stock with trunion, hardware etc.. it would be worth quite a lot... i saw one, barrel-less of course, sell recently on the ak forum for $1500.. and thats with no rear tunion.. it had the furniture and correct stock, but no folding stock hardware...
the only 105 kit i had ever seen.. whoever bought it basically paid for the FSB, muzzle booster, rear sight and stock... all the hard to find stuff
if its mixed bag of bulgarian parts, not so much..
the bulgarian fsb combos are much much easier to find than the russian ones and the 4.5mm trunions that work with bulgy and US folding stocks are typically much easier to find than the 5.5 mm ones that work with the russian 100 series folding stocks.. at least up until recently..
kvar just had some of these parts and rusmilitary just had some.. there are a couple floating around on gunbroker.. but before that they were basically unobtanium.
just a side note.. some people prefer the bulgarian FSB because it uses the same journal sizes as a standard AK74 barrel and can be swapped out easily.. the russian FSB requires that the barrel be turned down and has to have the gas port on either the barrel or the FSB altered. also the russian muzzle booster "times" differently and will look funny on a bulgarian FSB

gilbasa1 · 01-09-2011, 08:29 PM

thanks for the info again. im not sure if the fsb is russian or not. how would i be able to tell..measure the id of the fsb i suppose right? the rear sight looks like it came off a saiga only being marked to 300m. not sure about the trigger guard it has a rectangle dimple on the mag release. the front trunion is bulgy having the c10 stamp on it. the stock has the complete rear trunion and the stock is izhevsk marked. for all i know the stock might be the only russian part ont the gun. thanks again for your knowledge i love learning new things about my new obsession

fearrainsdown · 01-10-2011, 08:36 AM

here is a great description of how to tell the difference og the fsb http://www.avtomats-in-action.com/parts7.html
here is a great page for identifying many of the key features of a 105
http://www.avtomats-in-action.com/pro24.html

gilbasa1 · 01-10-2011, 02:51 PM

thanks again. looks like mine is mostly bulgarian parts. now i see why it was so cheap. i suppose there is nothing wrong with that, im sure it will make a pretty looking build if i ever get around to it.

fearrainsdown · 01-10-2011, 09:28 PM

well seeing how a russian 100 series side folder with hardware sells for 250 alone, id say you got a real good deal... esp with your FSB, headspaced barrel etc..

camaro1509 · 01-14-2011, 02:30 PM

who is selling 105 kits?

gilbasa1 · 01-15-2011, 01:02 PM

i bought the kit 2 min. after a a guy listed it on gunbroker. i had never seen one before(im fairly new to the ak game) so i jumped on it.

camaro1509 · 01-18-2011, 10:19 AM

lord k-var used sell all that cheap unissued is it a side folder?. its only the barrel makes a 105 but if i was going to get a short barrel ak it would be a 105. becouse ak47 16 barrel is same FPS as krinkov at what 9" a 105 is 12.5 and u lose alote with SBR. that FSB is supost be more accurate capable. the marines stuck with the 20" m16A4 has alote more killing power n range over the 14.5 M4 hell the army just uses 300m marines still use 500m

camaro1509 · 01-18-2011, 10:33 AM

ah really is a russsain any better than a bulgarian? i think the bulgarians are better quality atleast in imports. the russains make better ak's for their troops and the saiga/100's are about totaly not interchangable with other ak's. bolt,bolt carrier,bulgarians stuck with akm,aks74 style. and must be in tight becouse they are only ones to get updates n help after the fall of soviet union.hell my bulgy aks-74 parts kit has a tula folder after they even imported that tooling

one65r · 04-18-2011, 11:09 AM

So did anyone import true bulgarian 105 kits where the barrels didn't have to be modified?
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...f=123&t=865720

camaro1509 · 04-18-2011, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by one65r

So did anyone import true bulgarian 105 kits where the barrels didn't have to be modified?
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...f=123&t=865720

K-var

01-08-2011, 07:13 PM	#1
gilbasa1 armed infidel Bronze Contributor AKaholic #: 155260 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: occupied territory Posts: 588	ak-105 kit? i just picked up an ak-105 parts kit. the kit has no numbers matching, but was headspaced properly by the previous owner and passes the go gauge. has anyone ever seen one of these kits before? i look at kits quite a bit and i have never seen one. what would you say its worth?

01-09-2011, 03:15 PM	#4
fearrainsdown Member AKaholic #: 24021 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Arlington,TX Posts: 205	if its an actual russian 105 kit, with the correct russian fsb gb combo, actual russian 5.45 muzzle booster, russian marked 500m rear sight, correct trigger guard, correct russian side folding stock with trunion, hardware etc.. it would be worth quite a lot... i saw one, barrel-less of course, sell recently on the ak forum for $1500.. and thats with no rear tunion.. it had the furniture and correct stock, but no folding stock hardware... the only 105 kit i had ever seen.. whoever bought it basically paid for the FSB, muzzle booster, rear sight and stock... all the hard to find stuff if its mixed bag of bulgarian parts, not so much.. the bulgarian fsb combos are much much easier to find than the russian ones and the 4.5mm trunions that work with bulgy and US folding stocks are typically much easier to find than the 5.5 mm ones that work with the russian 100 series folding stocks.. at least up until recently.. kvar just had some of these parts and rusmilitary just had some.. there are a couple floating around on gunbroker.. but before that they were basically unobtanium. just a side note.. some people prefer the bulgarian FSB because it uses the same journal sizes as a standard AK74 barrel and can be swapped out easily.. the russian FSB requires that the barrel be turned down and has to have the gas port on either the barrel or the FSB altered. also the russian muzzle booster "times" differently and will look funny on a bulgarian FSB Last edited by fearrainsdown; 01-09-2011 at 03:37 PM.

04-18-2011, 11:09 AM	#13
one65r Member AKaholic #: 75376 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: madison, ms Posts: 57	Anyone import true bulgy 105 kits? So did anyone import true bulgarian 105 kits where the barrels didn't have to be modified? http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...f=123&t=865720

01-09-2011, 12:51 PM	#2
Jumprefusal Member AKaholic #: 66400 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ft. Bragg, NC Posts: 26	They aren't common anymore but if you post a WTB there are usually a few sellers out there. Generally I would say they are between 600-700, but they may be worth more now.

01-09-2011, 02:28 PM	#3
gilbasa1 armed infidel Bronze Contributor AKaholic #: 155260 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: occupied territory Posts: 588	thank you. i just got into the wonderful world of aks a couple years ago and know a little bit from what i read but have not heard much about these kits. i suppose i got a good deal paying $400 for the kit. thanks again

01-09-2011, 08:29 PM	#5
gilbasa1 armed infidel Bronze Contributor AKaholic #: 155260 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: occupied territory Posts: 588	thanks for the info again. im not sure if the fsb is russian or not. how would i be able to tell..measure the id of the fsb i suppose right? the rear sight looks like it came off a saiga only being marked to 300m. not sure about the trigger guard it has a rectangle dimple on the mag release. the front trunion is bulgy having the c10 stamp on it. the stock has the complete rear trunion and the stock is izhevsk marked. for all i know the stock might be the only russian part ont the gun. thanks again for your knowledge i love learning new things about my new obsession

01-10-2011, 08:36 AM	#6
fearrainsdown Member AKaholic #: 24021 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Arlington,TX Posts: 205	here is a great description of how to tell the difference og the fsb http://www.avtomats-in-action.com/parts7.html here is a great page for identifying many of the key features of a 105 http://www.avtomats-in-action.com/pro24.html

01-10-2011, 02:51 PM	#7
gilbasa1 armed infidel Bronze Contributor AKaholic #: 155260 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: occupied territory Posts: 588	thanks again. looks like mine is mostly bulgarian parts. now i see why it was so cheap. i suppose there is nothing wrong with that, im sure it will make a pretty looking build if i ever get around to it.

01-10-2011, 09:28 PM	#8
fearrainsdown Member AKaholic #: 24021 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Arlington,TX Posts: 205	well seeing how a russian 100 series side folder with hardware sells for 250 alone, id say you got a real good deal... esp with your FSB, headspaced barrel etc..

01-14-2011, 02:30 PM	#9
camaro1509 Senior Member AKaholic #: 147889 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hyden KY, usa Posts: 840	who is selling 105 kits?

01-15-2011, 01:02 PM	#10
gilbasa1 armed infidel Bronze Contributor AKaholic #: 155260 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: occupied territory Posts: 588	i bought the kit 2 min. after a a guy listed it on gunbroker. i had never seen one before(im fairly new to the ak game) so i jumped on it.

01-18-2011, 10:19 AM	#11
camaro1509 Senior Member AKaholic #: 147889 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hyden KY, usa Posts: 840	lord k-var used sell all that cheap unissued is it a side folder?. its only the barrel makes a 105 but if i was going to get a short barrel ak it would be a 105. becouse ak47 16 barrel is same FPS as krinkov at what 9" a 105 is 12.5 and u lose alote with SBR. that FSB is supost be more accurate capable. the marines stuck with the 20" m16A4 has alote more killing power n range over the 14.5 M4 hell the army just uses 300m marines still use 500m

01-18-2011, 10:33 AM	#12
camaro1509 Senior Member AKaholic #: 147889 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hyden KY, usa Posts: 840	ah really is a russsain any better than a bulgarian? i think the bulgarians are better quality atleast in imports. the russains make better ak's for their troops and the saiga/100's are about totaly not interchangable with other ak's. bolt,bolt carrier,bulgarians stuck with akm,aks74 style. and must be in tight becouse they are only ones to get updates n help after the fall of soviet union.hell my bulgy aks-74 parts kit has a tula folder after they even imported that tooling

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