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so i have this choice to make. i got two emails this morning.
im part ofa local cregs list type thing but for guns, and this morning i got two offers, the first guy offered me a fn fal for my ruger sp101, my ithica 37 12ga shotgun, and my cz52. the second guy offer me two romy g kits with barrels for just my used ruger sp101... this i know is a good deal.... here is how im valueing my stuff... ruger sp101 used.... $350-$375 ithica 37 12ga used $200-$230 cz52 _$200 now it would cost me $550 or $600 to buy two romy g kits... but i really like the idea of a fn fal.... here is the guys add for the fal... but is its value in the $800 doller range? "I have a FN Fal l1a1 in 308 it has a imbel (metric)upper and a canaden lower this gun is a hard hiting beast ...fear nothing gun... it comes with four 20 round mags two stocks and forends and 200 rounds of ammo. Iam just looking to see what's out their that people will trade so if interested let me know thanks" which would you choose? keep in mind i can always pay cash (not that i have it) for the kits. all this is local so no ffl fees or shipping to worry about. |
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You are unloading some nice guns.
I'd try to keep them unless I just didn't want them anymore. All three of those are fine guns though. I wish I had one of those GP 101s and the Mod 37. Nice. I wouldn't trade for kits but is up to you. The FAL is a frankengun and may be fine, may not be. Who made it? What make of barrel? You would need to check it out in person.
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would buying this "franken gun" be diffrent from buying an ak built from a kit? i dont know much about the fal, i mean i know its history but macanics i have no clue.
and why not trade for kits? whats your thinking on that if you dont mind me asking? as for my guns, the ithica is one of 4 shotguns i own and i never shoot the thing. the sp101 only has a 2.5 inch barrel and i cant hit crap with it. and the cz52 i was going to get rid of anyways since im buying a tokerav on the first of the year. |
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Keep the CZ and the Ithaca, forget the kits, and trade the Ruger.
I own an Ithaca 37 and I want a CZ52. FAL'S have many variations and need US made parts to be compliant, unless you know exactly what it is made from don't expect it to be too valuable. And be sure to shoot a mag or two to make sure it works good. |
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The FAL you describe is a Kit gun. It is worth more for it's parts than it is in it's entirety. You don't know who built it, or when, or if it has matching number parts or is a collection of stuff from everywhere. It may have metric and English components. It may not be assembled with the correct US made parts to make it legal. Assume this and if it works good offer the Ruger in trade. |
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would the gun even work with metric & english parts in the same gun? (i really dont know much about FALs)
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anyone else got any advice please?
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A shotgun and a good pistol are real tools.
A FAL is a good rifle, but just not as handy in a house, or on the street as a shotgun. The Pistol - perfect, reliable self defense weapon. Easily conceraled and so simple a caveman could use it. Two kits.....means putting them together or getting them put together. If it were me - I would get if of the CZ and buy a kit - get it made, contact someone on here for a local builder to help. or Use the CZ as a trade on the FAL and some cash. I just dont see the point in losing two very valuable weapons myself. Just my two.
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I don't think we are telling him what he wants to hear, guys.
I do believe he really wants an FAL. So, sell the pieces you have separately until you come up with the cash and look at this: http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.as...fle&groupid=11
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I love my FALSs... I have an early Century (Imbel receiver) a 16" barrel version and an Izzy HB. All are as reliable as the day is long, and I love the .308
That having been said, make sure it shoots well. It probably will , it's a great design and very rugged.
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if its on a Imbel receiver your in pretty good shape no matter who built the gun up.
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Do whatever with the CZ52, keep the others though. If you want an FAL, kinda like doc said, save for one. You wont regret saving and buying your rifle later, but you may very well regret getting rid of a couple other great guns.
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Imbel upper receiver & Canadian lower are both big pluses.
Get more details out of the guy - a metric front sight with an Inch rear isn't going to work too well. $800 isn't far off in value IF it shoots but take into consideration the cost of feeding it; cheapest 7.62x51 is currently about $0.40/rd plus shipping. |
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Century inch FAL, perhaps an Imbel receiver, but more than likely a century receiver.
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Pass
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Yep, pass. Not worth what you're giving away.
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I'll say if you want the Fal it's not a bad trade.
It looks like an Imbel but it could be cut for inch Mags. Just playing the odds I would guess this to be a converted thumbhole stock. |
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I would pass simply because its an inch FAL. Never cared for them.Go metric or stay home.
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Keep the ones you already have. Stack some sheckels. You can come up with the cost of whatever you are interested in if you stash all the $1s in your pocket each day and create a wad for future use. Pocket change adds up, too. I know, because I have done it. I took my time and kept my arsenal intact and got the additions when I could throw the coin.
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Neutered barrel (no FH or threads).
Handguards are OK Pistol grip is the nasty Century type. Buttstock may or may not be Brit. If it IS an Imbel receiver, then offer him $700. Better yet; get someone who knows FAL's to look at it before agreeing a deal. Looks like a metric magazine, so that's one less expensive option sorted. |
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I wouldn't give a nickel over $600 for that FAL but that's just MO. YMMV
But, then again, it isn't something I'd want at all.
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Based on that picture I KNOW I made the right call as far as advice goes.....
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so i got an email from the guy with the kits this morning and he backed out of the deal, and to be 100% honest i dont blame him that deal was way in my favor as far as cash value is concerned. so now im thinkin about tht damn fn fal again.........
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Got to admit - I am not a FAL fan. Dont get me wrong, I have a real nice one I got from TwoBit...
Otherwise...I wouldnt have bothered.
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The only thing stopping me is feeding the thing, like having a 200# Mastiff. I can`t afford the food.
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