Need info on a pistol/fake krink project build

Z Me FLy · 04-03-2010, 10:43 PM

What I have it mind is something for me to try out to see if it can be done. I have seen the different ways people have cut down the barrel to make it work. I don't have a lathe or drill press. My idea was to take an ak74 kit and to shorten it down to about 12 inches and use an amd gas piston. Find someone to weld the gas tube/fsb together and a fake can or something to bring it to 16". I want to make it look similar to a krink. If I bring the barrel down to that length, do I need to turn down the barrel also? Do you think this combo would work? Thanks

KernelKrink · 04-03-2010, 10:50 PM

Well, since you are not going to SBR it, what I would do is leave the bbl at 16" and just use the fake suppressor as a sleeve over it. Cutting down the bbl to 12" reduces velocity and possibly bullet stability with no up side in the configuration you propose.

Etek · 04-03-2010, 10:54 PM

Like it or not you MUST file a Form 1 and pay $200.00 tax.
Or make it a pistol.

Z Me FLy · 04-03-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KernelKrink

Well, since you are not going to SBR it, what I would do is leave the bbl at 16" and just use the fake suppressor as a sleeve over it. Cutting down the bbl to 12" reduces velocity and possibly bullet stability with no up side in the configuration you propose.

Do you have a website with a sleeve like this? Also, I would want to push the fsb back but not sure if that would really work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etek

Like it or not you MUST file a Form 1 and pay $200.00 tax.
Or make it a pistol.

Not really, you can put a muzzle break or something on it to make it 16" and weld it. No need to pay the $200

KernelKrink · 04-03-2010, 11:51 PM

I would think just about any old fake suppressor designed to thread over the FSB would work. If the hole in it isn't big enough for the bbl to pass through already it's pretty simple to run a drill through it.

bohnscot · 04-04-2010, 04:18 AM

any componet relocation will require lathe work. any machinist fresh out of vo-tech should be able to handle this, if you lay it out on print for him. check your local shop for someone that does side jobs.

Z Me FLy · 04-04-2010, 06:18 AM

I saw this from a pm

http://www.ak-builder.com/index.php?...oduct_id=29991

What size barrel is this made for?

AKBLUE · 04-04-2010, 12:23 PM

Shortening the barrel will have some little impact on the bullet velocity, but the stability as with the krink, AMD65 and other short barrelled AK/M/74's should be unaffected..
As noted you will need a lathe, dill press and some building skills to relocate the gas port hole , weld up the old gas port opening and move the lower retainer and so forth. Why not go for the GB/FSB combo that restorit posted recently and install it in the original gas block location. You can add whatever furniture you want and if you chop the barrel you just blind pin or weld or silver solder the attachment to 16 inches. Moving the gas port and sight back ala AMD65 will make way more work and likely make the rifle look very front heavy and unbalanced looking IMHO.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64348

Z Me FLy · 04-04-2010, 02:37 PM

That is understandable blue, that is one of the options I was looking at. Do you know if I can fit the saiga handguard onto the ak? If so how hard is it?

AKBLUE · 04-04-2010, 05:41 PM

What Saiga handguard? I thought you were going for a krink look? What are you trying to accomplish? have a pic? Here is a Saiga handguartd I put on an mutt AK wirth integrated FSB/GB.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showth...7&page=2&pp=20

Z Me FLy · 04-04-2010, 06:50 PM

Blue, I am open to the look. I do like the look of your ak

Z Me FLy · 04-05-2010, 04:12 PM

Can I apply these measurements to a yugo barrel?

http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.co...d/akpbbl01.jpg

bohnscot · 04-05-2010, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Z Me FLy

Can I apply these measurements to a yugo barrel?

http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.co...d/akpbbl01.jpg

no yugo stuff is a little bigger. check this link

http://www.theakforum.net/phpBB3/vie...hp?f=7&t=58948

04-03-2010, 10:43 PM	#1
Z Me FLy Member AKaholic #: 45932 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 77	Need info on a pistol/fake krink project build What I have it mind is something for me to try out to see if it can be done. I have seen the different ways people have cut down the barrel to make it work. I don't have a lathe or drill press. My idea was to take an ak74 kit and to shorten it down to about 12 inches and use an amd gas piston. Find someone to weld the gas tube/fsb together and a fake can or something to bring it to 16". I want to make it look similar to a krink. If I bring the barrel down to that length, do I need to turn down the barrel also? Do you think this combo would work? Thanks

04-03-2010, 10:54 PM	#3
Etek Curio & Relic Contributor AKaholic #: 2223 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Classified Posts: 4,863	Like it or not you MUST file a Form 1 and pay $200.00 tax. Or make it a pistol. __________________ "Far better it is to dare mighty things, than to rank with those poor spirits who knows neither victory nor defeat." Teddy Roosevelt "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system but too early to shoot the bastards. " -C. Wolfe

04-03-2010, 11:51 PM	#5
KernelKrink Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 2036 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,551	I would think just about any old fake suppressor designed to thread over the FSB would work. If the hole in it isn't big enough for the bbl to pass through already it's pretty simple to run a drill through it. Last edited by KernelKrink; 04-03-2010 at 11:56 PM.

04-04-2010, 12:23 PM	#8
AKBLUE Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor AKaholic #: 5035 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 9,089	Shortening the barrel will have some little impact on the bullet velocity, but the stability as with the krink, AMD65 and other short barrelled AK/M/74's should be unaffected.. As noted you will need a lathe, dill press and some building skills to relocate the gas port hole , weld up the old gas port opening and move the lower retainer and so forth. Why not go for the GB/FSB combo that restorit posted recently and install it in the original gas block location. You can add whatever furniture you want and if you chop the barrel you just blind pin or weld or silver solder the attachment to 16 inches. Moving the gas port and sight back ala AMD65 will make way more work and likely make the rifle look very front heavy and unbalanced looking IMHO. http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64348 Last edited by AKBLUE; 04-04-2010 at 05:42 PM.

04-03-2010, 10:50 PM	#2
KernelKrink Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 2036 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,551	Well, since you are not going to SBR it, what I would do is leave the bbl at 16" and just use the fake suppressor as a sleeve over it. Cutting down the bbl to 12" reduces velocity and possibly bullet stability with no up side in the configuration you propose.

04-04-2010, 04:18 AM	#6
bohnscot Road Warrior AKaholic #: 17360 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Holiday Inn Posts: 1,309	any componet relocation will require lathe work. any machinist fresh out of vo-tech should be able to handle this, if you lay it out on print for him. check your local shop for someone that does side jobs.

04-04-2010, 06:18 AM	#7
Z Me FLy Member AKaholic #: 45932 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 77	I saw this from a pm http://www.ak-builder.com/index.php?...oduct_id=29991 What size barrel is this made for?

04-04-2010, 02:37 PM	#9
Z Me FLy Member AKaholic #: 45932 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 77	That is understandable blue, that is one of the options I was looking at. Do you know if I can fit the saiga handguard onto the ak? If so how hard is it?

04-04-2010, 05:41 PM	#10
AKBLUE Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor AKaholic #: 5035 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 9,089	What Saiga handguard? I thought you were going for a krink look? What are you trying to accomplish? have a pic? Here is a Saiga handguartd I put on an mutt AK wirth integrated FSB/GB. http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showth...7&page=2&pp=20

04-04-2010, 06:50 PM	#11
Z Me FLy Member AKaholic #: 45932 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 77	Blue, I am open to the look. I do like the look of your ak

04-05-2010, 04:12 PM	#12
Z Me FLy Member AKaholic #: 45932 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 77	Can I apply these measurements to a yugo barrel? http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.co...d/akpbbl01.jpg

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