new BATF Bill will allow AK kits to be imported again

robhawg · 06-20-2009, 02:58 AM

Do you guys think the last line of this Bill (S. 941 and H.R. 2296: The “Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Reform and Firearms Modernization Act of 2009”) will let AK=Kits with barrels be imported again?

Restore a policy that allowed importation of barrels, frames and receivers for non-importable firearms, when they can be used as repair or replacement parts.

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactShe...d=251&issue=28

Illuminaughty · 06-22-2009, 09:07 AM

I wonder what the chances of this passing are.

Here's hoping.

Slade797 · 06-22-2009, 10:55 AM

"Reform" is a good word, especially when it applies to the ATF. Wonder if it will stick.

bill3542 · 06-22-2009, 08:24 PM

All the change in the world will make no differance when suddenly there are ( problems ) with paperwork from Customs, BATF, and bonded warehouses.
ther would also be ( problems ) in foreign countries with shipping, handling, and storage due to the U.N.
I think where whipping a dead mule on this one.

FloridaAKM · 06-23-2009, 07:01 PM

We no see barreled cut kits any more; unless you have them stored at your house/shop. They will not allow this to happen again under a demorat administration.
Palin 2012 and the undoing of Miss Ann's son's disasters is what I pray for.

motorhead · 06-25-2009, 10:29 AM

it may slip through. died in comittee last year. the dems have a full dance card right now.

knall · 09-07-2009, 09:47 PM

anything even happen w this?

JSPAG138 · 09-18-2009, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knall

anything even happen w this?

It's been referred to the "Ways and Means" committe.....

H.R. 2296

Illuminaughty · 09-24-2010, 12:16 AM

how long will it be in committee?

drjarhead · 09-24-2010, 08:01 PM

I suppose it might slip through.

In honesty I don't think a kit without an orig bbl is worth shit and I wouldn't throw my money away.

Maybe in a couple of years I will have wished I had bought 'em.

This is all rather pointless though.

We should be making a full court press on getting the '68 GCA repealed. That is the worst thing we face. I can live with the '34 NFA. That is benign in comparison.
Repeal the '68 GCA and all sorts of crappy things will go away. Wouldn't it be nice to buy orig comblock AKs and orig FALs, G3s, MP5s, etc?
There is a ton more in the '68 GCA that makes life for FFLs and gun owners a royal PITA.

Repeal '68 GCA.

Gunowners should drop all the rest of this and go full bore on that.

I expect we'll have some Repubs who are against repealing it, even. Will 'bongo sign it? Doubtful.

But it would still unify gunowners against the politicians at a time when they are looking for cover and hiding from the Tea Party, NRA, etc.

I say we go for it.

After the GCA is repealed then go after the States in the Courts.

WTF is going on in New York for instance?
With Heller and the Shitcago SCOTUS decisions how in the Hell do they think they have a leg to stand on with all of their gun control laws?
These cases need to go for monetary damages though. We need to start making it prohibitively expensive. New York needs a Class Action Suit. I think they could win there. Same in Kali. Actually, I think they'd have a chance of winning there.

But go after GCA. Everyone of us and our organizations should be focusing on that.

Illuminaughty · 09-24-2010, 08:04 PM

agreed, drjarhead.

KalashnikovMarine · 09-24-2010, 10:46 PM

Agree with the Doc on this one, we have bigger fish to fry

that said import restrictions on parts kits, ammo and the like taking a swan dive would be fantastic

drjarhead · 09-24-2010, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KalashnikovMarine

Agree with the Doc on this one, we have bigger fish to fry

that said import restrictions on parts kits, ammo and the like taking a swan dive would be fantastic

Get rid of GCA and it all goes away.

Utga Schleigle · 09-27-2010, 02:47 AM

I wonder??

With the ammount of US Treasury Bonds/Securities the Chinese Hold - Maybe an "MORE" even import/export trade playing field would be called for. Like OK to ship Chinese ammo and parts.

Keep the Chinese currency {Da Wahnn} value low so we can buy more ammo.

Maybe the US goverment wanted to ban the barrels - so the new rifles being inported from the Old Commie Block countries could be sold and tracked.

Any way I hope this kits with full barrels goes through - why not - it would in the correct dirrection.

HankBowman · 09-30-2010, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drjarhead

I suppose it might slip through.

In honesty I don't think a kit without an orig bbl is worth shit and I wouldn't throw my money away.

Maybe in a couple of years I will have wished I had bought 'em.

This is all rather pointless though.

We should be making a full court press on getting the '68 GCA repealed. That is the worst thing we face. I can live with the '34 NFA. That is benign in comparison.
Repeal the '68 GCA and all sorts of crappy things will go away. Wouldn't it be nice to buy orig comblock AKs and orig FALs, G3s, MP5s, etc?
There is a ton more in the '68 GCA that makes life for FFLs and gun owners a royal PITA.

Repeal '68 GCA.

Gunowners should drop all the rest of this and go full bore on that.

I expect we'll have some Repubs who are against repealing it, even. Will 'bongo sign it? Doubtful.

But it would still unify gunowners against the politicians at a time when they are looking for cover and hiding from the Tea Party, NRA, etc.

I say we go for it.

After the GCA is repealed then go after the States in the Courts.

WTF is going on in New York for instance?
With Heller and the Shitcago SCOTUS decisions how in the Hell do they think they have a leg to stand on with all of their gun control laws?
These cases need to go for monetary damages though. We need to start making it prohibitively expensive. New York needs a Class Action Suit. I think they could win there. Same in Kali. Actually, I think they'd have a chance of winning there.

But go after GCA. Everyone of us and our organizations should be focusing on that.

Gun Control = Infringement

Infringement of Second Amendment = Unlawful, illegal and (therefore) meaningless codified tyranny, which = Betrayal of the People by dishonorable political whores and their servile minions of evil

Carp Killer · 11-02-2010, 06:35 PM

Just repeal the 922r section.

Varokhâr · 12-05-2010, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slade797

"Reform" is a good word, especially when it applies to the ATF. Wonder if it will stick.

You can say that, again. There can't be enough reform when it comes to the ATF.

06-20-2009, 02:58 AM	#1
robhawg Member AKaholic #: 13094 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 52	new BATF Bill will allow AK kits to be imported again Do you guys think the last line of this Bill (S. 941 and H.R. 2296: The “Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Reform and Firearms Modernization Act of 2009”) will let AK=Kits with barrels be imported again? Restore a policy that allowed importation of barrels, frames and receivers for non-importable firearms, when they can be used as repair or replacement parts. http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactShe...d=251&issue=28

06-22-2009, 10:55 AM	#3
Slade797 Radical Curmudgeon AKaholic #: 11438 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eastern Kentucky Posts: 1,562	"Reform" is a good word, especially when it applies to the ATF. Wonder if it will stick. __________________ "Let us dare to read, think, speak, and write." - John Adams "The notion that a radical is one who hates his country is naïve and usually idiotic. He is, more likely, one who likes his country more than the rest of us, and is thus more disturbed than the rest of us when he sees it debauched. He is not a bad citizen turning to crime; he is a good citizen driven to despair." - H.L. Mencken

06-22-2009, 08:24 PM	#4
bill3542 Curio & Relic Contributor AKaholic #: 64 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Co.PA Posts: 2,033	All the change in the world will make no differance when suddenly there are ( problems ) with paperwork from Customs, BATF, and bonded warehouses. ther would also be ( problems ) in foreign countries with shipping, handling, and storage due to the U.N. I think where whipping a dead mule on this one. __________________ One of the few people to legally walk around a airport with a gun!! ( armed security )

09-24-2010, 08:01 PM	#10
drjarhead Mad Doctor AKaholic #: 5952 Join Date: May 2006 Location: on a lake in the forest Posts: 27,002	I suppose it might slip through. In honesty I don't think a kit without an orig bbl is worth shit and I wouldn't throw my money away. Maybe in a couple of years I will have wished I had bought 'em. This is all rather pointless though. We should be making a full court press on getting the '68 GCA repealed. That is the worst thing we face. I can live with the '34 NFA. That is benign in comparison. Repeal the '68 GCA and all sorts of crappy things will go away. Wouldn't it be nice to buy orig comblock AKs and orig FALs, G3s, MP5s, etc? There is a ton more in the '68 GCA that makes life for FFLs and gun owners a royal PITA. Repeal '68 GCA. Gunowners should drop all the rest of this and go full bore on that. I expect we'll have some Repubs who are against repealing it, even. Will 'bongo sign it? Doubtful. But it would still unify gunowners against the politicians at a time when they are looking for cover and hiding from the Tea Party, NRA, etc. I say we go for it. After the GCA is repealed then go after the States in the Courts. WTF is going on in New York for instance? With Heller and the Shitcago SCOTUS decisions how in the Hell do they think they have a leg to stand on with all of their gun control laws? These cases need to go for monetary damages though. We need to start making it prohibitively expensive. New York needs a Class Action Suit. I think they could win there. Same in Kali. Actually, I think they'd have a chance of winning there. But go after GCA. Everyone of us and our organizations should be focusing on that. __________________ The United Socialist States Govt is the enemy, both foreign and domestic Fight or Die

09-24-2010, 10:46 PM	#12
KalashnikovMarine Veteran Member AKaholic #: 54613 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Around Posts: 1,371	Agree with the Doc on this one, we have bigger fish to fry that said import restrictions on parts kits, ammo and the like taking a swan dive would be fantastic __________________ "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -- Thomas Jefferson Bona Na Croin: Neither Collar Nor Crown Sight alignment, breath, slow steady squeeze, life is simple Marine, Oath Keeper, Gun Owner

06-22-2009, 09:07 AM	#2
Illuminaughty Veteran Member AKaholic #: 3924 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 1,470	I wonder what the chances of this passing are. Here's hoping.

06-23-2009, 07:01 PM	#5
FloridaAKM Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 3568 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,582	We no see barreled cut kits any more; unless you have them stored at your house/shop. They will not allow this to happen again under a demorat administration. Palin 2012 and the undoing of Miss Ann's son's disasters is what I pray for.

06-25-2009, 10:29 AM	#6
motorhead EVIL GENIUS AKaholic #: 6093 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: peoples republik of kalifornia Posts: 14,186	it may slip through. died in comittee last year. the dems have a full dance card right now.

09-07-2009, 09:47 PM	#7
knall Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 5181 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: northern NH Posts: 4,301	anything even happen w this?

09-24-2010, 12:16 AM	#9
Illuminaughty Veteran Member AKaholic #: 3924 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 1,470	how long will it be in committee?

09-24-2010, 08:04 PM	#11
Illuminaughty Veteran Member AKaholic #: 3924 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 1,470	agreed, drjarhead.

09-27-2010, 02:47 AM	#14
Utga Schleigle Veteran Member AKaholic #: 8480 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LB Peoples Republik Kalifornicators Posts: 1,755	I wonder?? With the ammount of US Treasury Bonds/Securities the Chinese Hold - Maybe an "MORE" even import/export trade playing field would be called for. Like OK to ship Chinese ammo and parts. Keep the Chinese currency {Da Wahnn} value low so we can buy more ammo. Maybe the US goverment wanted to ban the barrels - so the new rifles being inported from the Old Commie Block countries could be sold and tracked. Any way I hope this kits with full barrels goes through - why not - it would in the correct dirrection. __________________ PLEASE WEAR EYE PROTECT & PROTECTIVE GEAR IN SHOP!!!!!! You can order another part from from manufacturer, but you can't order another finger or eye from your mother & father. *This DOES NOT constitute GOOD or SANE legal - professional gunsmithing - psychiatric - CPA - MD - gardening advice. Please contactact qualified professional in their respective specialties.* Go ahead mix and match professionals with what ever problem you have??? That would be funney!!!!!

11-02-2010, 06:35 PM	#16
Carp Killer Member Contributor AKaholic #: 359 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 58220 Posts: 196	Just repeal the 922r section.

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