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Old 02-08-2009, 09:08 PM   #1
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Default ITM ARMS CO. MK99 folding stock

Hi, I own an MK99 with the receiver stamped ITM ARMS CO. Model MK99 7.62 Cleveland Ohio MADE IN USA.

Bought it recently from a local store, they had bought it at a gun show and unfortunately they didn't find the manual for it. Does any one have contact info for the manufacturer? I googled them and can't find much.

Here's my question.

I was told at the store that the rifle was built during the 1994-2004 AWB period, and that they had welded/soldered the folding stock into open position.

Of course, the AWB is no more, and I want to restore proper function to the folding stock. I was wondering what the best approach would be between using a propane torch to melt away the solder, or using a dremel tool with a very fine cutting blade.

Any info greatly appreciated!
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:15 PM   #2
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I can't tell from the pics - where is the weld or solder?
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:42 PM   #3
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Ohio Ordnance Works....still sellin receivers in SGN

but they didn't do that..they only make 1 universal type of receiver

Ronin is correct..just need to locate and remove the offending spot weld
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:47 PM   #4
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Bought it recently from a local store, they had bought it at a gun show and unfortunately they didn't find the manual for it. Does any one have contact info for the manufacturer? I googled them and can't find much.

and you won't find any manual for it.........becuase ITM ARMS is a OHIO ORDNANCE WORKS receiver.......... OOW just makes the receiver.what you bought is a parts kit gun........ a AK parts kit built on a OOW receiver, built by who? who knows? could have been built by some bubba in some trailer park, or someone that knows what they are doing.........it certainly wasn't built by OOW.
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:49 PM   #5
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ITM only made receivers, someone assembled an AMD 65 parts kit onto an ITM receiver. AFAIK, there is no manual specific to that model, but general AK manuals can be downloaded off the Net.

Welding and soldering are two very different processes. Weld will have to be cut off, a propane torch won't do a thing to it. Solder will melt out, unless it's high temp silver solder then you will probably have to cut it off as well.
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melting silver solder will probably trash the finish. careful surgery is indicated.
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:43 AM   #7
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Boatloads of different firearms manuals are at:

http://www.biggerhammer.net/manuals/

Note he lists the user ID and password to use at the top of the page.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:23 PM   #8
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Yeah, looks like an AMD-65 build. I have one that was built with an ITM MK99 receiver too. So, if there are manuals, it will be for the AMD-65 (maybe in Hungarian).

The "AK47 US Army Operators Manual" from ronin's link above will be your best bet.

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Old 02-09-2009, 03:14 PM   #9
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Here are some manuals.

http://www.drzero.org/ak1/index.htm

and

http://guns.wolfcrews.com/ak47/default.htm

Depending on how the folding stock is fixed you might do more harm than good getting it to fold.
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the us army manual only covers field stripping and how not to shoot yourself, no variants. does have a small section on makers proof marks though.
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Some pics here.

http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/fieldstripp/stripp_akm.htm
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I can't tell from the pics - where is the weld or solder?
I don't really know, nothing is visible from the outside of the buttplate (more like a solid block of steel held in place by big rivets). There is that swivelling part that appears to be on a hinge, and I am assuming that whatever solder or weld exists is on the inside.

The release button is on a spring and it is functional, when you press it, you can see the locking tooth move up through a tiny hole, so I assume that 'they' soldered that swivelling block and then did a really good cleaning job so that you can't tell from the outside, but I can't be 100% sure. It's such a tight fit, there isn't much room for error with a cutting blade.
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and you won't find any manual for it.........becuase ITM ARMS is a OHIO ORDNANCE WORKS receiver.......... OOW just makes the receiver.what you bought is a parts kit gun........ a AK parts kit built on a OOW receiver, built by who? who knows? could have been built by some bubba in some trailer park, or someone that knows what they are doing.........it certainly wasn't built by OOW.
Thanks, I found their website with a page about the MK99 receiver.

http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/sem...receivers.html

Sounds like I am on my own as far as figuring out what soldering/welding method the builder employed.
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melting silver solder will probably trash the finish. careful surgery is indicated.
Yeah, I am afraid of trashing the finish, but I just don't see much room for inserting burring/cutting tools in the tight gap.
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probably spot welded on the inside. soldering is unlikely,they would have to refinish. probably spot welded before the trunnion was installed.
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