In light of all the recent NWO legislation...

[winston]

I just joined Gun Owners of America.

The only TRUE no compromise pro-gun organization.

Don't let the globalists and their control group NRA incrementally strip us of our RIGHTS to keep and bear arms..!

Or is it keep and arm bears..?

Well either way you get the drift...

Join GOA today for as little as $20 a year..!

http://gunowners.org/

[lsmurphy]

Ah ain't gonna matter much after this spending bill. O is working overtime to get it passed and you can bet your life there is anti gun attached.


Along with and look for it soon the "clunker law" that will take your 10 year old car and truck away from you.

We're getin fucked every which way.

Scott

[winston]

Can't disagree with that, the NWO is going to ram through their agenda with their new "front man", but we've gotta' let them know that we will stand up for ourselves.

Originally Posted by lsmurphy

Ah ain't gonna matter much after this spending bill. O is working overtime to get it past and yoiu can bet your life there is anti gun attached.


Along with and look for it soon the "clunker law" that will take your 10 year old car and truck away from you.

We're getin fucked every which way.

Scott

[CPO TED]

Originally Posted by lsmurphy

Along with and look for it soon the "clunker law" that will take your 10 year old car and truck away from you.

MY TRUCK ?????

My BELOVED 1982 Ford F150 4X4?????

AIN'T NO WAY ON GOD'S GOOD GREEN EARTH OR IN THE DEPTHS OF HELL THAT SCUMBAG CREEP IS GONNA TAKE MY GUNS, MY WIFE, MY HOME, MY DOGS...

OR MY FREAKIN' FORD

It just AIN'T gonna happen.

New Jerky done took my 1968 MGB GT from me using a stupid "no junk car in the yard" law.

It AIN'T happening to me down here in NoGa.

Not while I'm still drawin' freakin' BREATH.


NO!!!!!!!!

CPO T

[winston]

Alright TED is this you..?

Originally Posted by CPO TED

MY TRUCK ?????

My BELOVED 1982 Ford F150 4X4?????

AIN'T NO WAY ON GOD'S GOOD GREEN EARTH OR IN THE DEPTHS OF HELL THAT SCUMBAG CREEP IS GONNA TAKE MY GUNS, MY WIFE, MY HOME, MY DOGS...

OR MY FREAKIN' FORD

It just AIN'T gonna happen.

New Jerky done took my 1968 MGB GT from me using a stupid "no junk car in the yard" law.

It AIN'T happening to me down here in NoGa.

Not while I'm still drawin' freakin' BREATH.


NO!!!!!!!!

CPO T

[CPO TED]

...naw...

Mines white...and ain't been NOWHERE near that shiney in maybe 10-15 years!!!

T

I LOVE my truck.

[bush luv]

I have two trucks that are over 10 years, and until they die they will be what I drive. I will sit in a local jail before I pay a fine. This law seems like a ploy to get more auto sales, and nothing more. I will not comply. I also LOVE my truck(s). '92 and '95.

[CPO TED]

Originally Posted by bush luv

This law seems like a ploy to get more auto sales, and nothing more.

YEP...the Dems are now pimping for Detroit...anything to keep the big UNION vote.

The big Unions is a big part of what is bringing this country down...over $70,000 per year to pick sheet metal off a pallet and hang it on a hook...

The UAW would have to kiss my rear end before I'd sell my Ford...in the name of saving their jobs.

Screw Them.

T

[CPO TED]

Winston, Sorry to have hi-jacked this thread.

This is a VERY important topic and I'm glad you brought it up. The NRA ain't gonna do NOTHING after the laws are passed and and deal is done....the NRA will just tell us..."its the law of the land, and now we got to obey it"... I saw it in New Jerky.

The GOA is a good bet ... I would expect them to organize and support a strong protest.


Another group you should consider joining is the JPFO. They are REAL STRONG avocates for firearm ownership.

http://www.jpfo.org/

NEVER AGAIN!!!!!

It starts with being able to defend and protect yourself!!!!!

CPO T

[tedbo]

Naw, they want all the old vehicles trashed so's they can hit us with EMP and we WILL stay where they want us.


tinfoil on.

[Illuminos_9]

There is no way the legislation will ever be changed. We will either seize control and erase the wrongs of the past 175 years or continue to suffer from them.

The NRA are a bunch of government-worshiping lobbyists who eat at the same restaurants as the scum they're funded to defeat. They share more smiles than jeers because everyone's getting paid.

I support the org's that encourage old-school Americanism and the bravery that comes with it.

A lone gunman is a statistic... A million gunmen is a force to be reckoned with. So, drop your cocks and grab your Glocks (or preferred battle weapons). It's time to show the government we won't accept their unconstitutional tyranny any longer... A thousand flag-draped coffins at a time!


With regards to the EMPs... The government may not be the [only] ones setting them off.

[IanMor]

Illuminous, +1000. But where to rally at? Are we just going to flail blindly in the dark? Or do you have something more.....Sophisticated in mind?

[IanMor]

Word, Doc. I just get a bit tired of everyone calling "To Arms!" with no where to go. The revolution everyone craves isn't going to take place unless there is a populist uprising (yeah right, as long as there is bread and circuses), mass rioting because stuff got bad (wont happen 'till summer. NO urbanite revolts in the winter), or we get off out collective asses and march on Washington....Armed.(fat fucking chance there).

Until then, we tilt at windmills and spar with ghosts. Just the way .gov wants it.

[JohnFreeman]

Been a GOA member for years.... I like 'em .

[Fortis]

One thing that I haven`t heard as an arguement for gun ownership is the risk we face as a nation against terrorist attack. We are in more danger now than we`ve ever been & our own government wants to disarm us for "our own safety?!" Should not the citizens be a last line of defense? This should no longer be viewed as just an infringement, but an all out attack on our right to defense from ALL threats. It`s become all too clear, however, that the most imminent threat is coming from our own country. The similarity between the tactics of Nazi Germany as Hitler was taking power in 1930`s Germany bear an eery similarity to what`s going on in present day America. Ever growing infringements on 2nd ammendment rights, radio sensorship, eminent domain & the "cry of neccesity", as used by tyrants throughout history. If anyone wants a good read on the history of gun control, I recommend the book "Death by Gun Control"(jPFo). It should be required reading for anyone who takes an oath of office. We may not be there yet, but the signs are telling of what is possible. The question remains, as has been said, how do we at least begin to organize a stand. God I wish I knew.

[Illuminos_9]

Originally Posted by IanMor

Word, Doc. I just get a bit tired of everyone calling "To Arms!" with no where to go. The revolution everyone craves isn't going to take place unless there is a populist uprising (yeah right, as long as there is bread and circuses), mass rioting because stuff got bad (wont happen 'till summer. NO urbanite revolts in the winter), or we get off out collective asses and march on Washington....Armed.(fat fucking chance there).

Until then, we tilt at windmills and spar with ghosts. Just the way .gov wants it.

You're right. It does seem counter-productive, but my goal is to build fervor... Encourage the sentiment, ya know?

I am unable to fund the revolution, so am not a candidate for leadership. Although I'd be a useful voice on any strategic committees, in a "leadership" capacity, I'd be more at home as an NCO type of middle management because my brothers-in-arms are more than numbers to me. Not to say the "brass" don't care, but their views are broader than the individual.

The sad fact is that there can be no plan or build-up. Any such action would be quickly addressed by the JBTs. We are forced to remain diligent individuals, ready for action at the drop of a hat. Minutemen, to use their prompts to war against them. That wouldn't hurt the "hearts and minds" issue either.

My point is to nurture an environment where such overt acts of tyranny like "Waco" would be addressed by angry Americans with effective weapons and the will to use them.

Once a reasonably sized resistance starts making headway (by winning or suffering inhuman losses, as seen in Waco), the fence-sitters will be more inclined to join the bandwagon. And it's important to remember that battle losses are percentage-based and those "fence-sitters" could be just what's needed to build a second, more focused mass.


As for the rioting.... Well, you seem to understand that some cultures are more opportunistic than others, and that security will have to be a priority. IMO, and as a man with no offspring, that's what sons are for.

Ours is the righteous battle and if it's God's will that many shall fall, maybe that will be a form of rapture (for those who believe in rapture) for the truly faithful.

[Illuminos_9]

Originally Posted by Fortis

One thing that I haven`t heard as an arguement for gun ownership is the risk we face as a nation against terrorist attack. We are in more danger now than we`ve ever been & our own government wants to disarm us for "our own safety?!" Should not the citizens be a last line of defense? This should no longer be viewed as just an infringement, but an all out attack on our right to defense from ALL threats. It`s become all too clear, however, that the most imminent threat is coming from our own country. The similarity between the tactics of Nazi Germany as Hitler was taking power in 1930`s Germany bear an eery similarity to what`s going on in present day America. Ever growing infringements on 2nd ammendment rights, radio sensorship, eminent domain & the "cry of neccesity", as used by tyrants throughout history. If anyone wants a good read on the history of gun control, I recommend the book "Death by Gun Control"(jPFo). It should be required reading for anyone who takes an oath of office. We may not be there yet, but the signs are telling of what is possible. The question remains, as has been said, how do we at least begin to organize a stand. God I wish I knew.

We are immersed in a "baby-sitter" mentality and the masses are expecting their Police and DHS agents to protect them. And, of course, the loving support of FEMA when their heroes fail.

Their Gun Control is plagiarized from NAZI legislation... Birds of a feather, from the mastermind to the enforcer.

Agreed. In fact, I like all of their productions and publications. I wish we could get them to allow file-sharing of their retail gospels () because info as good and as energizing as that contained in The Gang movie needs to be widely circulated.

[sv_libertarian]

Iffun you wants to be the preecher man of the milisha Illuminos, the Dirt County Milisha has a space open fer chaplin. Bring yer own akootermints tho, as we is a poor milisha and haf to spend most of are monee on foil and likker. Both of witch blok the mind kuntrol rays.

[AK-Rulz]

I'm gonna check out the GOA, the NRA is too pc for me.
Hey, sv, you gonna bes dis funny when dem JBT's kick in yo'ses doh?

David

[sv_libertarian]

Originally Posted by AK-Rulz

I'm gonna check out the GOA, the NRA is too pc for me.
Hey, sv, you gonna bes dis funny when dem JBT's kick in yo'ses doh?

David

AK-Rulz, were you too dense to see that I was poking at one particular statement by one particular person? I ditched the wimps at the NRA in favor of The 2nd Amendment Foundation in Bellevue WA, GOA and JPO.

Oh I don't have a door to kick in. I live on a sailboat. Hatchboards yes, door, no.

[Fortis]

+1 on GOA(active member), may join up w/ jPFo, funds permitting.

[S. Fisher]

All donations to the JPFO are tax deductible.

[lsmurphy]

Money equals organization. That's one reason the Right has failed to errupt, unlike the Left the Right doesn't waste money on ideology. Having said that I think that's about to change now that the Right is bing attacked. Did you hear that the O administration now want to tax ALL compensation over $500K at 95%??????????????? Yes he did say that and Biden says he'll throw CEOs in the Brigg.

Business in this country is gonna get the fuck. That means you too working man.

Scott

[fullautotogo]

Originally Posted by Fortis

One thing that I haven`t heard as an arguement for gun ownership is the risk we face as a nation against terrorist attack.

And I doubt you ever will! The "good guys" are afraid not to be p.c.. On the other side there is a force that supress's and hides the truth! It is counter productive to their goals and not p.c.! Every time I have been in an argument with an antigunnner since 911 my question has always been, "What if all those people on those planes would have been armed? How many would have died? 5, 10, 50, 100? Certainly not thousands!" There is no escaping this logic unless your motive is to disarm and not just protect! If it was mandatory to carry a handgun and to be trained to use it. If the laws on self defence were designed to protect the victim and not the scum trying to do them harm, violent crime would be next to nonexistent within 5 years. Just my oppion!

[lsmurphy]

Something else-


I'm beginning to discover the latent Leftists that supported in secrecy O with there vote. Many here too I bet.

I've lost friends of this already.

Lube up.

Scott

[lsmurphy]

Just as long as you understand they use these as examples and justifications to come after YOU and they will.

I said this is the era of example making.

Scott

Originally Posted by drjarhead

I agree with what you are saying fully but to a degree they deserve it. They were so greedy during the Shrubbie administration and have much blame in the current financial mess.

Yeah, everyone wants to make money but everyone is responsible for their actions, ethics, or lack thereof.

It will be a negative for sure but plenty of them deserve it in spades. Don't take this as meaning I advocate it but look at the mess they all created. If not for corporate greed and gov't corruption we wouldn't be having to deal with a socialist takeover of our nation. To Hell with all of them.

I am beginning to believe the only thing that will save us is a depression. A bitter pill indeed.

[Higgy]

Originally Posted by lsmurphy

Along with and look for it soon the "clunker law" that will take your 10 year old car and truck away from you.

What's your source for this, Murph?

[Geist762]

Originally Posted by S. Fisher

All donations to the JPFO are tax deductible.

They're god's chosen people don't ya know.

small g.

[lsmurphy]

Fox news ran the story on Monday and Rush mentioned it on Thursday.

Scott

Originally Posted by Higgy

What's your source for this, Murph?

[Illuminos_9]

Originally Posted by AK-Rulz

I'm gonna check out the GOA, the NRA is too pc for me.
Hey, sv, you gonna bes dis funny when dem JBT's kick in yo'ses doh?

David

Oh, that's right! She paid her $5 to "belong" and be a part of the "family." Fucking people and their fragile egoes.


If you ignore her, she'll get bored with her played-out storytelling and move on to greener pastures.

You see, she lives on a boat because she was evicted from her last flop-house, and squatters are left to themselves when they inhabit shipwrecks off the coast.

It's also clear that Sandy Vag is on the side of the Bolsheviks, with her attempts at discouraging American men from doing their duty, preferring rather to leave it to government employees to protect her from the government that signs their checks... Needless to say, she will be among the first to die, likely by the hands of her fellow countrymen for her unforgivable betrayal.

What is it about Seattle and the WarriorTalk crowd? It don't get much more Democrat than that.

[fullautotogo]

Originally Posted by drjarhead

To Hell with all of them.

I am beginning to believe the only thing that will save us is a depression. A bitter pill indeed.

Although I agree Doc. I also fear that with the lack of testicular fortitude in this country, They will use a depression to reshape "OUR" nation more to their liking. In the name of making us all safe. The sheep will go along with it just to get fed, to loosely quote a wise man "Just to take one more breath". To Hell with them indeed!

[thumper]

When I was a kid we used to read the American Rifelman in the library during study hall.
So where's the GOA link?

[Fortis]

Originally Posted by thumper

When I was a kid we used to read the American Rifelman in the library during study hall.
So where's the GOA link?

Here ya go Thumper. http://gunowners.org/

[Fundump23]

Originally Posted by fullautotogo

Although I agree Doc. I also fear that with the lack of testicular fortitude in this country, They will use a depression to reshape "OUR" nation more to their liking. In the name of making us all safe. The sheep will go along with it just to get fed, to loosely quote a wise man "Just to take one more breath". To Hell with them indeed!

And just who are "They"? "They" are the ones who set this whole thing up. "They" are the ones who are running this county into it's GRAVE!!! So the NWO and the NEW county can come into existance!
Not until the US of A is in very deep shit and the shepple are begging to be "saved" will "They" come out with "The Plan". Any doubts? Do a Google search on the Amero coin.

So it's either the NWO or a revolution? Guess what? "They" don't care! "They" win either way!!!

[winston]

I'll bet you a shinny nickle that "someone" who complained benefited from the theft of the mustangs and possibly even the land. That's just one of the reasons they protect the privacy of the "person" who filed the complaint. If they had to disclose the identity of the complainant the county code officer could have never got his scam off the ground. Well, perhaps I'm being naive, he could have just had a buddy sign the document I guess, but then he would have to split the spoils with his friend.

Government sponsored theft is all too common these days.

Originally Posted by no illegals

[QUOTE-

New Jerky done took my 1968 MGB GT from me using a stupid "no junk car in the yard" law.



That same thing happened to a friend of mine in mexifornia. He bought a lot of about 20 1965-1971 ford mustangs, some were fastbacks, some were mach1, some just the standard mustang. He purchased them from an estate of a dead collector. None of the cars were in great shape, but all were buildable classic muscle cars waiting for restoration. Anyway he had placed them on 360 acres of private property, most of which was not viewable from anywhere but the sky. But, someone complained and the county actually tresspassed through closed gates and orange tagged all of those cars along with the other stored stuff. They gave him 30 days to remove them or place them inside a outbuilding out of sight. Well he didnt have a building, and 30 days went by quick. They showed up again tresspassing, with a line of tow trucks, and stole every one of the marked cars. To kick him while he was down, not only did they steal his 30 mustangs, but they also levied a $75 per vehicle fine, which he couldnt pay. Now his property is being stolen too because he was liened by them as well. He is fucked. Get this. To top it all off, the scumbag county code officer actually some how got one or more of those mustangs to add to his personal collection. What a scam.