And you wonder why we can't get ahead....

[akjim]

The Tax Poem



At first I thought this was funny...then I realized the awful truth of it. Be sure to read all the way to the end.

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts
Anyway!


Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.
Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
'Taxes drove me
to my doom...'

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge T ax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service FeeTax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?

[AKGUY1]

Time for another Tea Party!!!

[ambivolent]

+1 on that tea party

[akjim]

I'll bring the Earl Gray......
Actually, I'm meeting with the local state Representative who has expressed an interest in knowing what we would like to see from our State Government. I'll propose he get rid of even one item on the list as a starter..........I'll put any money on his not being able to agree to that.....
I may have lost the Big foot bet but by God I believe I wouldn't loose that.

[ronin]

What I'd like them to fix is what is between the collection and the distribution. Our schools are in bad shape, our roads are crap, bridges are in tough shape, etc. Then I hear about all the pork barrel stuff they pull and that drives me nuts.

If they were to fix their spending and coddling special interests then they'd need less taxes.

[Firefly]

They are just ripping us off blind, they know it and we know it.That Tea Party sounds about right.

[festus]

If it wasn't for all those taxes, I would be a rich man.
A biddy, biddy, biddy, biddy, biddy, biddy, boom.
Don't it give you a warm feeling knowing how many you are supporting?
Sunrise, sunset. I'm broke you bet.........
"From each according to his ability , to each according to their needs."
" Peace, Land, and Bread"
We are living in a socialist utopia, or soon will be if No Bamma gets his free ride to the Big White House.

[drjarhead]

Originally Posted by ambivolent

+1 on that tea party

+3

Sounds like the middle of the Declaration of Independence to me.

[bigwheel]

I always liked the inheritance tax being talked about as the death tax. They are
separate. The inheritance tax is a tax on the value of the estate. The death
tax is 55% of everything the estate makes off it's assets from the death of the
person until the estate is settled. Now you know why the gov. loves for probates
to drag on for years. m2c

[fullautotogo]

Originally Posted by drjarhead

+3

Sounds like the middle of the Declaration of Independence to me.

+4.........starting to look like a platoon! just a few more squads.

[lsmurphy]

+4


I believe we are taxed at about 58% of total assets and income. Not mentioned here is all the imbedded taxes not seen but paid. Tax on tax on tax.

Scot

[lsmurphy]

I used to buy a lot of paint product and I'd buy from Dyco who produced a superior paint and was based in FL. I was talking to the manager a couple of years ago and I asked why one of the products had such an increase in price. He told me that (I knew this much) the feds (EPA) have been trying to reduce the use of "hot" solvent products for years (this I did not know) and that they now imposed a "penalty" (tax) on the production of hot products. If I remember correctly it is $10,000 for every 1000 gallons produced. A $10 per gallon tax on top of all the other taxes incurred on production and delivery of your product. So next time you pay $35 for a gal of poly know what you're paying for. I wonder now just how many other things are taxed this way. Just where is this money going anyway??????????

The other thing he told me is how this effect the production it'self. Once the 1000 gallons of pruduct is nearly consumed there is a laps of time before the product goes back into production as the demand will need to force the company to invest more dollars into production, in other words the paint co will not spend the 10K if there is not a strong demand so if there's 10 gal left available and you need 20 you're shit outta luck untill the co decides to spend the bucks to produce another batch.



Also know that when you go to HD or Lowes and you pay $23 for a gal of Minwax you are buying shit. Some how they have to reduce production cost and the product quality to get the price down and overcome these fees.

Scott

[lsmurphy]

Florida has a tangible tax.


I was talking to a trucker last week who now lives in TN and we were talking about high fuel prices etc...
He was telling me that a couple of years ago he was driving for a company out of Tampa and the co have a tremendous amout of inventory left over from the previous year so to avoid the "tangible tax" this co loaded 47 tractor trailers with all their inventory and drove them to the parent company in Chicogo, backed the trucks up to the loading dock and without unloading aquired a new ship ticket and drove it back to Tampa as "new inventory" as to avoid the next years tax. Do you guys realize just how rediculess our tax structure is? and to what expense our US companies go to to avoid it??? Sickening.

Scott

[lsmurphy]

Oh and BTW in that last story don't you think that the cost of all that moving around isn't built into the final cost to the comsumer????

And you really think you aren't taxed at 60%.????????


Scott

[lsmurphy]

Another interesting story from the trucker-


He used to drive for a seafood co, a large company. He said the shrimp harvested from the coast of FL is then taken to Maine for processing and delivery. Shrimp harevested from the coast of Maine is then taken to Texas to be processd and shipped. Shrimp harvested from the coast of Texas is then shipped to FL to be processed and shipped to retail. He said we would drive this 3 point route because the import/export of product produced in a state is taxed at a lower rate than product produced and processed in the same state.


Just know that the powers that be are fucking retards. I wonder if the cost of diesel now superceeds the cost of just paying the tax. And we wonder about the consumption of fuels and the waste. This is why I have NO patience for most people, 9 out of 10 of the people you run into are stupid, I know I say it all the time. My broken record.

Scott

[lsmurphy]

Also concider this-


If you add all the hidden or embedded taxes, fees, penalties, permits, and surcharges etc... the retail price of product has got to be 3 times the actual cost.
The crap we have to pay for-
If you're an employee do you know what cost of your employ is to your employer??? The other half of SS, workers comp (the last I heard a legit roofer is paying 38% for worker's comp. For every $100 of labor paid the roofer must pay WC $38), employer's portion of health insurance, cost of recording and paying witholding, liability insurance, if you drive a company vehicle your dl record effects cost, and so on. If you earn $10 per hour do you realize the cost to your employer may be $26 per hour? This is all past down to the end user or consumer and then you get to pay sales tax on top of it all.
Tax on Tax on Tax. Trucker pays fuel tax, he has a final cost and this is past to you and you pay tax on the tax he has paid. Isn't double taxation illegal? I know it's double taxation without representation, well where the fuck is my representation????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh yes I also realize most companies have tax id #s and don't pay sales tax on raw materials, it's the hidden taxes I'm talking about not the obvious sales taxes.


Scott

[lsmurphy]

Just one last freakin thought here guys-


I've been pricing S&W revolvers and the new ones are up in the $1000 range. Just how much of that cost is tax? Is there some bullshit "harmful use tax" built into the cost?? Anyone know?? I'll bet there is.


And lastly-
I hear there will be a new internet tax coming soon, fuck'em. I'll barter and trade. C--ksuckers!


Scott

[lsmurphy]

Shit! I'm pissed.


My brother was looking at one of these-

http://www.dodge.com/en/2009/challenger/

Loaded V8 the dealer had one for $42K and he tells me the price includes a $2,700 embedded "gas guzzeler tax" and then you get to pay a sales tax on the $2,700 tax. WHY? WHY? WHY? do we put up with the shit?


Scott

[bobehud]

we put up with it because those that have been elected have their own interests as the most important thing.They lie-wezel-and steal from the working middle class,which will not exist if things dont change.Soon the blue collar workers whom built this country will be homeless.
nothing short of a rebuilding of values at the highest level can reverse this.BUT
that being said this is STILL the greatest country in the world-and when i see talk of a revolt-or another civil war (drivil-get your tin foil hat)-etc,etc.I always know what many many people would do.Defend this country. So if any nut job
ever trys to overthrow anything as long as i draw a breath-ill be the one of them on a rooftop a quarter mile away killing those low life traitors.

[lsmurphy]

Originally Posted by bobehud

we put up with it because those that have been elected have their own interests as the most important thing.They lie-wezel-and steal from the working middle class,which will not exist if things dont change.Soon the blue collar workers whom built this country will be homeless.
nothing short of a rebuilding of values at the highest level can reverse this.BUT
that being said this is STILL the greatest country in the world-and when i see talk of a revolt-or another civil war (drivil-get your tin foil hat)-etc,etc.I always know what many many people would do.Defend this country. So if any nut job
ever trys to overthrow anything as long as i draw a breath-ill be the one of them on a rooftop a quarter mile away killing those low life traitors.

Wow! You really suck. I'll know who to look for.

Scott

[bobehud]

No in truth im a hell of a shot.Can hit B27 targets all day at 500 yards.FN Patrol
.308 ER Shaw bull barrel Nikon 6x20x50 scope.Have hit as far away as 800 but the wind moves the light bullet around too much.
Make sure that when you whack jobs decide to take over you all say your prayers and kiss the loved ones bye'.

[motorhead]

barter and cash whereever you can. y'all know where i live, i'm a master of keeping as much of what's mine as possible. hell, next week i'll probably have to pull a permit to take my morning crap.
oh, bob, congratulations on finally becoming black.

[bobehud]

Why thank you thats native american i said person of color i didnt say which..lmao

[motorhead]

http://www.theakforum.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=65460
my mistake, must have read that wrong. maybe a spelling error.

[fullautotogo]

Originally Posted by bobehud

No in truth im a hell of a shot.Can hit B27 targets all day at 500 yards.FN Patrol
.308 ER Shaw bull barrel Nikon 6x20x50 scope.Have hit as far away as 800 but the wind moves the light bullet around too much.
Make sure that when you whack jobs decide to take over you all say your prayers and kiss the loved ones bye'.

hey bobobitch, why don't you just join the atf? you sound like prime material. bet you'd have no problem wackin' a few kids to prove your loyality.
nobodys talking revolution. and theres no fargin' law against us having a conversation. in fact the constitution gaurntees are right to say whatever the hell we want, right up to the point of personal threats. which i believe is what you just did college boy! i see you running your mouth on the akforum about this forum. http://www.theakforum.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=67559 if you don't like it here, then why don't you crawl away. and don't leave a slime trail behind you boyo!!! i feel personally insulted by your presence.

there's no reason to be in a place you can't stand unless you are a TROLL! if you don't want to make a positive contribution, then take your ass somewheres else.
making personal threats against the membership shows your level of maturity. so when you have voted for the first time or maybe done a few tours in the sandbox maybe your oppion will mean more to me than where the shit paper goes when i flush the toilet!!! untill then consider yourself on my ignore list boyyo!!!

eta=your college professor was probably a draft dodging,commi sympathizing,cowardly pos and it sounds like you were his best student!!!

[motorhead]

jfc, such vitriol against me beloved files. i prefer to think of us as the people the antis have nightmares and hide under their beds from!
and bob, that;s a gerbil not a kitten, DO NOT INSERT.
no friggin wonder threads are getting bombed about that of which we dare not speak. christ, has the news hit myspace or youtube yet? idle speculation on a board where most claim to hate us, go figure?

[akjim]

Ok bobby......I don't think I ever advocated a revolution beyond getting involved in your local political arena and getting active in discussing the extent of our over taxation. If you would check your history books the Boston Tea Party was held at the same time as the US delegation trying to negotiate the right to representation in British parliment when it came to taxation policy.
The Stamp Act of 1765 and the Townshend Acts of 1767 angered colonists regarding British decisions on taxing the colonies despite a lack of representation in the Westminster Parliament. One of the protesters was John Hancock, a wealthy Bostonian. In 1768, Hancock's ship Liberty was seized by customs officials, and he was charged with smuggling. He was defended by John Adams, and the charges were eventually dropped. However, Hancock later faced several hundred more indictments.

Hancock organized a boycott of tea from China sold by the British East India Company, whose sales in the colonies then fell from 320,000 pounds (145,000 kg) to 520 pounds (240 kg). By 1773, the company had large debts, huge stocks of tea in its warehouses and no prospect of selling it because smugglers, such as Hancock, were importing tea from the Netherlands without paying import taxes. In response to this the British government passed the Tea Act, which allowed the East India Company to sell tea to the colonies directly and without "payment of any customs or duties whatsoever" in Britain, instead paying the much lower American duty. This tax break allowed the East India Company to sell tea for half the old price and cheaper than the price of tea in England, enabling them to undercut the prices offered by the colonial merchants and smugglers.[citation needed]

Many American colonists, particularly the wealthy smugglers, resented this favored treatment[citation needed] of a major company, which employed lobbyists and wielded great influence in Parliament. Protests resulted in both Philadelphia and New York, but it was those in Boston that made their mark in history. Still reeling from the Hutchinson letters, Bostonians suspected the removal of the Tea Tax was simply another attempt by the British parliament to squash American freedom. Samuel Adams, wealthy smugglers, and others who had profited from the smuggled tea called for agents and consignees of the East India Company tea to abandon their positions; consignees who hesitated were terrorized through attacks on their warehouses and even their homes.[1]

What is really sad is that you keep coming back trying to make friends with the members for a while and then flame away and destroy any forward progress you've make. What's even worse is that you tend to forget in campy's own words, "this is just the internet". Now how long do you think it's going to take for the staff at the akforum.net to figure out that your not native american and maybe not african american, though you have said so. If your credibility is lost,,, why would anyone over there hold you in any higher regard then we do over here? A lot of us, who do not consider ourselves radical nutjobs, do go back and forth between boards. How happy do you think the general membership over there would be to find out you have a tendency to exagerate and lie to defend any position you take. As I said once, it's a sad sad person when one has to keep coming back to that where he is so obviously disliked. Oh and by the way, Dstorm said that it was high winds and rains and not a tornado and yes, if you would like, you can copy this to a thread to the akforum.net as they tended not to believe, and you quietly supported their questioning of the alleged incident.
Pretty easy to look up the historical warning data for the Tuson area, it's called NOAA. Guess what, for about a 4 day strerch right when D lost his house, there were flash flood warnings, high wind warnings and massive hail. Yet Tuson proper was spared. Why allow that kind of talk to go on over there when you know it was true. I'll say it again, sad. I'm done with this thread before it gets blasted into the basement...




NOAA
Review of July 25, 2006 Severe thunderstorm and Flash flood event
After a relatively quiet period for several days the situation changed dramatically on July 25th and continued through the end of July. The conduit for this change was a surge of Gulf of California moisture caused by Tropical Storm Emilia then located a couple of hundred miles west of the southern tip of Baja California. The Yuma, AZ VAD wind profile around 12z (Figure 1) showed low level southerly winds approaching 40kts indicating a rather strong surge. With this surge of moisture, surface dewpoints dramatically rose during the early morning hours from the 40’s into the 60’s across Southern Arizona. This moisture did indeed have good vertical continuity aloft as shown by the 12Z KTUS sounding (Figure 2) with a precipitable water value of 1.46”. The 00z KTUS sounding (Figure 3), released before any convective activity impacted the immediate Tucson area gave a great indication of the pre convective environment these storms had. The 00Z KTUS sounding had 30kts of 0-6km shear in addition to surface based CAPE of about 1800 J/kg with a “fat” positive area indicating good updrafts and potential for large hail. The mid level flow near 500mb was also near 10kts indicated storm motion would be relatively slow causing the potential for flash flooding.

The first thunderstorms of the day developed between 19 and 20Z over the Chiricahua mountains near Rucker Canyon and the Huachuca mountains near Parker Canyon Lake. As expected these storms exhibited slow westward motion. While the thunderstorm complex over the Chiricahua Mountains that moved west through Cochise County had relatively few large hail reports and no reports of flash flooding, this was not the case for the thunderstorm that developed near Parker Canyon Lake. This storm became severe as it slowly moved westward over Santa Cruz county in the afternoon and merged with a southward moving cell that developed over extreme northwest Santa Cruz. The merged storm over Santa Cruz county had echo tops eclipsing 50,000 feet with 70+dBZ returns at 30,000 feet. This led to golf ball (1.75”) hail being reported north of Rio Rico and 1” hail in Patagonia. The slow movement caused several inches of rain in a couple of hours over Northern Santa Cruz county leading to flash flooding on Interstate 19 at the Chavez Siding Road exit. Eight inches of water was reported flowing across the Interstate 19 from an unnamed wash which led to its closure for a time during the afternoon. There was so much hail from this storm that it could be seen flowing through the washes well after the storm had passed. The storm continued its slow march west into the Tohono O’odham nation where nickel sized hail was reported early in the evening. It should be noted that this storm eventually merged with another cluster of storms over Maricopa county which evolved into an MCS overnight.

Thunderstorms also developed over the Mogollon rim in the early evening hours and moved southwest through Graham county toward Pinal and Pima counties. These thunderstorms produced a strong wind gust of 64 mph with a downburst at the Safford airport. These thunderstorms also produced some locally heavy rainfall over Northeast Pima and Pinal county late in the evening.



Figure 1-Yuma (KYUX) radar wind profile from July 25, 2006
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Figure 2-Tucson sounding from 12z July 25, 2006 Courtesy SPC
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Figure 3-Tucson sounding from 00z July 25, 2006 Courtesy SPC
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Selected radar images from July 25th
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Move your mouse over number to change graphics. Click link for larger view.

[ambivolent]

I bet Lil ole bobe boy here is the same kind that will give up their 2nd amendment rights and hand his guns over when the gubment says we can't have guns

[lsmurphy]

I think it's time to play cowboys and indians.



Scott

[ScottD.]

How about we enter another period of isolationism. Lets clean our country up from the inside out, THEN maybe we can start to worry about a few loose chemical weapons in Iraq or what Sheik So-and So said about the USA.

This country is going to hell in a handbasket.

[ambivolent]

Originally Posted by ScottD.

How about we enter another period of isolationism. Lets clean our country up from the inside out, THEN maybe we can start to worry about a few loose chemical weapons in Iraq or what Sheik So-and So said about the USA.

This country is going to hell in a handbasket.

+1 on that I totally agree

[Firefly]

Originally Posted by ScottD.

How about we enter another period of isolationism. Lets clean our country up from the inside out, THEN maybe we can start to worry about a few loose chemical weapons in Iraq or what Sheik So-and So said about the USA.

This country is going to hell in a handbasket.

You're absolutely right,we need to clean our own house first,I've been saying that for years.We spent too much time,effort,and money overseas.Oh by the way bobo,you are on my ignore list now.

[AKGUY1]

I would love to see a good house cleaning! Start in congress and turn on the fire hose. How much worse will it get I wonder before enough people get pizzed and start kicking the bums out! Problem is you get rid of one bum and along comes another one. Current election is prime example! As the current population continually gets dumbed down people walk around with blinders on and just don't get it! It's like the frog in the kettle, turn the burner up slowly.

[Etek]

Heck I wanted to dump tobacco in Annapolis Harbor to protest the new Tobacco Tax but between permits, EPA fines and criminal penalties for dumping hazardous waste it wasn't worth it.

[fullautotogo]

quotes from bobolicker:
I think so.If you want to read some scary stuff go to thier dumping brass section.They do more harm to our hobby in a day than the Dems can do in a lifetime.
I mean these are the guys anti-gun people live for.



So if any nut job
ever trys to overthrow anything as long as i draw a breath-ill be the one of them on a rooftop a quarter mile away killing those low life traitors

little hypocritical, double talking, lying, boboloser.