Red Dot ???

lsmurphy · 02-16-2008, 07:25 PM

Fellows

Is this worth the $180.00?

Scott

1:

VALMET_M76 · 02-16-2008, 08:14 PM

It's a cobra, that's full list price. I have one.

lsmurphy · 02-16-2008, 08:27 PM

Thanks Val. I guess it's a good one then?

Scott

VALMET_M76 · 02-16-2008, 08:31 PM

I like mine.

drjarhead · 02-18-2008, 05:08 PM

Didn't care for it.

John@JCDLESales · 03-19-2008, 05:03 PM

Scotty do an eBay search for Red Dot Sights. I posted in the Krinkov Forum of a LE Guy I Built for a couple years back. He did a Docter Knock Off/NoDak Piccy Rail and I had a chance to test it. For the money this Company has really Good Red Dots. Also do a Google Search for Clearview Optics. They are from Aisa but I find there stuff much better than the Com Bloc junk out there.

I'll get back to this with a link and they offer a Knock Off that is 100% AimPoint M4 at 1/6th the price.

Real Docter:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Docter-Optic-Red...QQcmdZViewItem

Knock Off Docter:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RED-DOT-SIGHT-AU...QQcmdZViewItem

AimPoint M4 Knock Off:

http://cgi.ebay.com/G-P-30mm-Aimpoin...QQcmdZViewItem

Slugger · 03-20-2008, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VALMET_M76

It's a cobra, that's full list price. I have one.

So for that price . . . a guy should support Tantal and get a year's warranty to boot.

I'm in the same situation with a local that wants to sell me a "new" Kobra that could be new but I have no proof. He took the batteries to use for himself. It seems a little fishy.

John@JCDLESales · 03-20-2008, 05:16 PM

Well here is one and it Ain't On Airsoft.

KernelKrink · 03-20-2008, 05:46 PM

John, how's the battery life on the Aimpoint copies?

John@JCDLESales · 03-20-2008, 08:52 PM

Gawd Kernel never clocked it but really a loooong time. And while detail is not quite Aimpoint, Optics and W&E are very precise. Once the word got out to LE that these did everything the higher priced Aimpoint did well the phone rang off the hook.

Do a Google Search for Clearview Optics Singapore. Hey guys even their scopes are Very Nice Quality. Somehow we Americanos get so fixated on brands with a Higher Prices we can't see the forest for the trees.

Man I remember Uncles that were in WWll saying give the Japanese something and they will copy it and do a better job. And time has shown this to be very true. Now it is the rest of Asia that is doing the coping and once again doing a very good job of it indeed.

Besides what do you have in one of these Red Dots maybe a Half A Buck with shipping? eBay is the best source of deals on these items just watch shipping cost. Some might have them for 18 Beans but they want $35.00 Shipping. But if you search eBay and make a conserted effort you'll score a Deal

LQQK Here:

http://search.ebay.com/search/search...hts&category0=

KernelKrink · 03-21-2008, 06:16 AM

Oh, I agree some of the copies are high quality for the price. I picked up a green laser sight a few months ago for app $30 shipped, same one that's selling around $100 in the various catalogs right now, copy of the $600 original. Very nice.

However, I was researching the various boards on the aimpoint clones and about the only complaint was battery life. Aimpoint claims an absurdly long battery life, in the thousands of hours. Some have said the clones will drain a battery if left on overnight.

John@JCDLESales · 03-28-2008, 05:34 AM

Here's another M Series that looks well made for the Bucks.

MECHANICAL DATA
Material housing Extruded high strength aluminium
Surface finish Hard anodized, matte, Graphite Gray
Material lens covers Thermoplastic Elastomer, black non-glare
Adjustment 1 click = 10 mm at 80 meters = 13 mm at 100 meters = ?" at 100 yds

DIMENSIONS
Length 130 mm (5.1")
Width/height 55 mm (2.2")
Ring width Max 30 mm (1.2")
Weight 200 grams (7.1 oz)
ENVIRONMENTAL DATA
Temperature Range -45oC to +70oC (-50oF to +160oF)
Water resistance Submersible to 25 m (80ft) water depth
*MOA (Minute Of Angle) 1 MOA = 30 mm at 100 meters = 1" at 100 yards

par0thead151 · 04-05-2008, 09:41 PM

i too would like ot know the battereylife on the aimpoint clones

southern boy · 04-12-2008, 03:51 AM

where did you pick up that cobra at?

02-16-2008, 07:25 PM	#1
lsmurphy Amerika Sux AKaholic #: 6789 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lost Posts: 24,222	Red Dot ??? Fellows Is this worth the $180.00? Scott 1: __________________ Ecclesiastes 1:13 I devoted myself to study and to explore by wisdom all that is done under heaven. What a heavy burden God has laid on men!

02-16-2008, 08:27 PM	#3
lsmurphy Amerika Sux AKaholic #: 6789 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lost Posts: 24,222	Thanks Val. I guess it's a good one then? Scott __________________ Ecclesiastes 1:13 I devoted myself to study and to explore by wisdom all that is done under heaven. What a heavy burden God has laid on men!

02-18-2008, 05:08 PM	#5
drjarhead Mad Doctor AKaholic #: 5952 Join Date: May 2006 Location: on a lake in the forest Posts: 27,002	Didn't care for it. __________________ The United Socialist States Govt is the enemy, both foreign and domestic Fight or Die

03-19-2008, 05:03 PM	#6
John@JCDLESales Veteran Member AKaholic #: 1595 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: White Oak, PA Posts: 1,602	Scotty do an eBay search for Red Dot Sights. I posted in the Krinkov Forum of a LE Guy I Built for a couple years back. He did a Docter Knock Off/NoDak Piccy Rail and I had a chance to test it. For the money this Company has really Good Red Dots. Also do a Google Search for Clearview Optics. They are from Aisa but I find there stuff much better than the Com Bloc junk out there. I'll get back to this with a link and they offer a Knock Off that is 100% AimPoint M4 at 1/6th the price. Real Docter: http://cgi.ebay.com/Docter-Optic-Red...QQcmdZViewItem Knock Off Docter: http://cgi.ebay.com/RED-DOT-SIGHT-AU...QQcmdZViewItem AimPoint M4 Knock Off: http://cgi.ebay.com/G-P-30mm-Aimpoin...QQcmdZViewItem __________________ John McCaw FFL/SOT2 JCD Tactical Law Enforcement Sales White Oak, PA 15131-2104 (412) 980-1233 Last edited by John@JCDLESales; 03-19-2008 at 05:21 PM.

03-20-2008, 05:16 PM	#8
John@JCDLESales Veteran Member AKaholic #: 1595 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: White Oak, PA Posts: 1,602	Well here is one and it Ain't On Airsoft. __________________ John McCaw FFL/SOT2 JCD Tactical Law Enforcement Sales White Oak, PA 15131-2104 (412) 980-1233

02-16-2008, 08:14 PM	#2
VALMET_M76 Temp ban-Multiple indiscretions. AKaholic #: 90 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,090	It's a cobra, that's full list price. I have one.

02-16-2008, 08:31 PM	#4
VALMET_M76 Temp ban-Multiple indiscretions. AKaholic #: 90 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,090	I like mine.

03-20-2008, 05:46 PM	#9
KernelKrink Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 2036 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,533	John, how's the battery life on the Aimpoint copies?

03-20-2008, 08:52 PM	#10
John@JCDLESales Veteran Member AKaholic #: 1595 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: White Oak, PA Posts: 1,602	Gawd Kernel never clocked it but really a loooong time. And while detail is not quite Aimpoint, Optics and W&E are very precise. Once the word got out to LE that these did everything the higher priced Aimpoint did well the phone rang off the hook. Do a Google Search for Clearview Optics Singapore. Hey guys even their scopes are Very Nice Quality. Somehow we Americanos get so fixated on brands with a Higher Prices we can't see the forest for the trees. Man I remember Uncles that were in WWll saying give the Japanese something and they will copy it and do a better job. And time has shown this to be very true. Now it is the rest of Asia that is doing the coping and once again doing a very good job of it indeed. Besides what do you have in one of these Red Dots maybe a Half A Buck with shipping? eBay is the best source of deals on these items just watch shipping cost. Some might have them for 18 Beans but they want $35.00 Shipping. But if you search eBay and make a conserted effort you'll score a Deal LQQK Here: http://search.ebay.com/search/search...hts&category0= __________________ John McCaw FFL/SOT2 JCD Tactical Law Enforcement Sales White Oak, PA 15131-2104 (412) 980-1233 Last edited by John@JCDLESales; 03-20-2008 at 09:03 PM.

03-21-2008, 06:16 AM	#11
KernelKrink Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 2036 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,533	Oh, I agree some of the copies are high quality for the price. I picked up a green laser sight a few months ago for app $30 shipped, same one that's selling around $100 in the various catalogs right now, copy of the $600 original. Very nice. However, I was researching the various boards on the aimpoint clones and about the only complaint was battery life. Aimpoint claims an absurdly long battery life, in the thousands of hours. Some have said the clones will drain a battery if left on overnight.

03-28-2008, 05:34 AM	#12
John@JCDLESales Veteran Member AKaholic #: 1595 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: White Oak, PA Posts: 1,602	Here's another M Series that looks well made for the Bucks. MECHANICAL DATA Material housing Extruded high strength aluminium Surface finish Hard anodized, matte, Graphite Gray Material lens covers Thermoplastic Elastomer, black non-glare Adjustment 1 click = 10 mm at 80 meters = 13 mm at 100 meters = ?" at 100 yds DIMENSIONS Length 130 mm (5.1") Width/height 55 mm (2.2") Ring width Max 30 mm (1.2") Weight 200 grams (7.1 oz) ENVIRONMENTAL DATA Temperature Range -45oC to +70oC (-50oF to +160oF) Water resistance Submersible to 25 m (80ft) water depth *MOA (Minute Of Angle) 1 MOA = 30 mm at 100 meters = 1" at 100 yards __________________ John McCaw FFL/SOT2 JCD Tactical Law Enforcement Sales White Oak, PA 15131-2104 (412) 980-1233

04-05-2008, 09:41 PM	#13
par0thead151 Member AKaholic #: 7568 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 170	i too would like ot know the battereylife on the aimpoint clones

04-12-2008, 03:51 AM	#14
southern boy Senior Member AKaholic #: 7235 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 532	where did you pick up that cobra at?

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