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Old 05-11-2017, 06:18 PM   #1
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Why are Saiga banned, but Veprs are not banned?
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Old 05-11-2017, 06:30 PM   #3
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Why would this be locked? I tried googling and searching this site for an answer, but haven't found a definitive answer. If this has already been addressed elsewhere, simple refer me in that direction...
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I searched this site and found lots of threads on the subject . Did you read any of them? Do you want them to be banned?




It's obvious , because they didn't include them in the ban . Geez common sense .
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Wondered it myself. Glad I got my fm11
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Ok if you get nailed it's your own fault...
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http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showth...ght=Molot+vepr
I read that thread before posting. It does not answer why Saiga are banned from import via sanctions and why Veprs are not.
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Me too. I've been wondering for a while now, and thought I'd post asking why that is...
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Simple really. Molot is not under the KC umbrella.
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Couldn't find the something is coming thread in the Kvar section but the interwebs still had it...
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Why are Saiga banned, but Veprs are not banned?
Saiga owned by Kalashnikov Concern. And people that own that group are close to Putin. So when sanctions started, it banned Kalashnikov Concern. Vepr make and owned by Molot firearms ltd. They were not part of Kalashnikov Concern. So never part of the ban. It don't mean it can't happen still. I guess you can say its loophole.
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Saiga owned by Kalashnikov Concern. And people that own that group are close to Putin. So when sanctions started, it banned Kalashnikov Concern. Vepr make and owned by Molot firearms ltd. They were not part of Kalashnikov Concern. So never part of the ban. It don't mean it can't happen still. I guess you can say its loophole.
It'll happen sooner or later IMHO. Just a matter of time...
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Heck, I didn't know either, glad you asked.
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They are so heavy they fall under artillery category not rifle thus exempting them.
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Anybody hoping for a Norinco ban lift? I sure am! And about time! Came a little late to the party...but hope Chinese 'imports' mean more than domestically-available junk!
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Simple really. Molot is not under the KC umbrella.
Not that simple.

Molot was awarded by a Russian court to Izhevsk a few years ago. Besides both being majority "owned" by the government, they are all under the same "corporate umbrella"


As far as the thread lock, it's been a while, so maybe we can see something here that hasn't been posted over and over in previous threads on this subject

( so far, nothing new )
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Not that simple.

Molot was awarded by a Russian court to Izhevsk a few years ago. Besides both being majority "owned" by the government, they are all under the same "corporate umbrella"


As far as the thread lock, it's been a while, so maybe we can see something here that hasn't been posted over and over in previous threads on this subject

( so far, nothing new )
Okay, now I'm confused. Once they came under the same "umbrella", shouldn't Molot have come under the same restrictions?
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Okay, now I'm confused. Once they came under the same "umbrella", shouldn't Molot have come under the same restrictions?
Yep, we've all been wondering the same thing, in thread after thread after thread on this subject . . .
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Which is why I'll continue to buy them whenever I find one for a good price.

If and when they do get banned, watch the price go up.
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Izhmash (Saiga) is Putins company making tons of other (not just AK) military equipment for Russian military killing Ukrainians and accupating their territory called Dombas and Crimea, it is active war even now. That is why it got under ban. Molot (Vepr) is produsing sport type of rifles only, not for their military needs.
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KalCon should sell their holdings to Molot.
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Won't work as if KC is involved in any deal, whatever that deal is can not be imported .
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Izhmash (Saiga) is Putins company making tons of other (not just AK) military equipment for Russian military killing Ukrainians and accupating their territory called Dombas and Crimea, it is active war even now. That is why it got under ban. Molot (Vepr) is produsing sport type of rifles only, not for their military needs.
They don't occupy Dombas and Crimea is Russian now anyway.
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Crimea was always Russia until Khrushchev gave it to Ukraine in the 50's and they took a legal democratic vote to rejoin Russia.

These sanctions are garbage.
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They don't occupy Dombas and Crimea is Russian now anyway.
Lets not argue about politics. People are getting killed as we speak in Dombas...
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They don't occupy Dombas and Crimea is Russian now anyway.
About 23 years ago president of Russia Yeltcin that time sighned with other former leaders of USSR paper saying - we will respect each other territories. Putin crossed this paper and border, so "always russian" is not really good excuse...
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Izhmash (Saiga) is Putins company making tons of other (not just AK) military equipment for Russian military killing Ukrainians and accupating their territory called Dombas and Crimea, it is active war even now. That is why it got under ban. Molot (Vepr) is produsing sport type of rifles only, not for their military needs.
Not exactly right, MOLOT makes the Russian Military's RPKs.
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