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Old 11-28-2016, 03:52 AM   #1
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Default More DDI AK47 problems trickling in

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Old 11-28-2016, 04:00 AM   #2
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Ruh roh. Not good, not good at all...
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Old 11-28-2016, 04:26 AM   #3
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So the 1st video author, as well as 1 other comment in there had this sticking bolt issue, as well as the 2nd video author. Thats 3.

I'm definitely starting to question if final QC is even done by someone.
Maybe it's retroactive....cheaper to fix the few that get returned then pay another full time employee for final QC.

Good luck to all you that bought these before they proved themselves.
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Old 11-28-2016, 04:27 AM   #4
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looks like these are not turning out to be the cats meow that they said they would be.
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Old 11-28-2016, 04:40 AM   #5
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:03 AM   #6
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So what were the issues? I don't wanna watch 17 cumulative minutes of some guys mumbling and playing operator.
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:12 AM   #7
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I don't think it will hurt DDI's business at all. Too many fan boys have drank the DDI Kool-Aid
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:43 AM   #8
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That why I said before, before I put my money I want to see how it performs and see if bugs get fixed. I know people say oh they have great customer service and lifetime warranty. Well that great, but if product messing up then you need that to recover. Hell, IO and Century have lifetime warranties too, I wouldn't touch them, unless I need expensive door holder. I am still fuming over Chinese made Shotguns they came out with and then claimed that they better then Vepr 12 and it was Dave who said that. Like they couldn't make it themselves in USA. Disappointed I was looking forward for American made option.
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:10 AM   #9
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Note to self, "stick to imports".
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:15 AM   #10
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There is always going to be some issues with a new product line. Look at psa and they seem to have come back strong

The good thing and difference with ddi is they have good customer service and will listen and fix problems and not take months like psa.

They took a gun I bought second hand and found it had issues that I wasn't told about and totally rebuilt it on there new receivers cause it was one the first ones they built with out of spec receivers.
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:37 AM   #11
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There is always going to be some issues with a new product line. Look at psa and they seem to have come back strong

The good thing and difference with ddi is they have good customer service and will listen and fix problems and not take months like psa.

They took a gun I bought second hand and found it had issues that I wasn't told about and totally rebuilt it on there new receivers cause it was one the first ones they built with out of spec receivers.
I understand that their customer service is great, but first impressions is huge. There only so many mistakes you can make before people start to not trust it. At this point I stick with imports, because they have decades of experience. Let see if DDI can actually prove themselves, but they also can't make outlandish claims like Dave said that their Chinese made shotguns are better then Vepr12. I seen that on youtube, I almost fell out of chair when I heard that. You got new company, you just started making shotguns(actually Chinese started making for you), and with not much experience going to say it better then Vepr12 when it was make for awhile now. That was very distasteful and not honest.
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:50 AM   #12
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Since when don't imports have issues and they are a lot harder to fix. I've owned plenty with issues, from canted sights, a Yugoslav with soft bolt and ftf issues, a Chinese preban that wouldn't cycle correctly. A Romanian with the worst mag wobble ever. There will always be a few with gremlins even if they are test fired. Sometimes it takes a few rounds for issues to show up like that second video.
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Old 11-28-2016, 07:12 AM   #13
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Looks like Rob's (AKOU) rifle broke again also, there was a video he had up for a short amount of time labeled DDI hammer forged 1297 rounds bye bye bye. Looks like it broke another extractor. Rifle is done and being sent back I believe. Probably some kind of tolerance stacking and or out of spec something going on, but who knows.

So was Rob's new extractor that DDI sent him after the first one failed from a new company? Or did he get another mysterious bad extractor from the couple bad ones in a missing baggie? Lol.

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Well, let me tell you about this one time at Rob camp. You see, I know an AK company that got 6 or 7 sample extractors in for testing built to the AK companies print. They decided not to use them because they broke during testing from what they determined the heat treat was to high, near 58RC. All of them broke in under 1K rounds. Now, there was a few of those extractors left in a small bag that was properly labeled with the date, vendor and a note not to use. They don't know the exact number, maybe two or three were left, but that was it. Now, fast forward to today, that little bag is now missing, but they do have a broken extractor that was sent from Rob camp that they measured at about 58 to 60RC. Now that CEO when he found out about that little bag with those few extractors missing got down right pissed. The rest of the story should not be told to sensitive ears.
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Since when don't imports have issues and they are a lot harder to fix. I've owned plenty with issues, from canted sights, a Yugoslav with soft bolt and ftf issues, a Chinese preban that wouldn't cycle correctly. A Romanian with the worst mag wobble ever. There will always be a few with gremlins even if they are test fired. Sometimes it takes a few rounds for issues to show up like that second video.
I never said that imports are not fallible like Wasr for example known come with canted sights and other issues. But just can't trust them yet until they get better, kinda of like I don't like to get the latest phone until to see all kinks or most work out.
But it don't help when their CEO makes outlandish claims too
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Old 11-28-2016, 07:29 AM   #15
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Bugs in the bolt department to work out.... Maybe that's why they send Rob Ski a case of bolts??
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Old 11-28-2016, 07:31 AM   #16
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I'd rather have a century V2
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I'd rather have a century V2
not really either
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Old 11-28-2016, 08:11 AM   #18
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I don't think it will hurt DDI's business at all. Too many fan boys have drank the DDI Kool-Aid
I think it is going to hurt.

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Old 11-28-2016, 09:56 AM   #19
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It's a shame....underfolders are in Stock at AGS now
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Old 11-28-2016, 10:08 AM   #21
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This is why I still prefer to build from kits...

Even with the USA barrel (arguably the easiest part to procure and totally replaceable if something goes wrong), at least the core components are surplus, tried and true military parts.

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Why not? Just because some have problems, not all of them will. And if they do have problems they have warranty for a reason lol. Isn't that how every other manufacture is?

I'd still get one, if it had problems send it and get it fixed. Simple as that. That's how the world works. Not every single thing is perfect on every gun.

DDI is constantly on this site making things right with people, so that gives me reason to trust the gun and warranty offerings.

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Old 11-28-2016, 10:21 AM   #24
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DDI owners wishing they had bought a Waffen Works - 11/28/2016
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So what were the issues? I don't wanna watch 17 cumulative minutes of some guys mumbling and playing operator.
1st video: Go to 4:30 to watch. Problems with bolt operation.

2nd video: watch the whole thing. Problems with bolt operation + failire to eject and failure to fire + light primer strikes.
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Wow you know it's bad when you can't even shoot 2 magazines at a slow pace without malfunctions. Complete shit! Stick to imports. Why are people wasting money on these? Our market should be more imports not these with shit barrel.
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Wow you know it's bad when you can't even shoot 2 magazines at a slow pace without malfunctions. Complete shit! Stick to imports. Why are people wasting money on these? Our market should be more imports not these with shit barrel.
The Green Mountain barrel is actually very solid. I wouldn't call that a shit barrel.
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The Green Mountain barrel is actually very solid. I wouldn't call that a shit barrel.
Gotta be chrome bitches!!!!
Or else it will go bad at the range, or worse, in class!!!!!!!
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I'll never understand why people would want to drop 900 on that when they could just get a SAM7 for 1200, lol. I wanna make a bet that by summer 2017 everyone will have forgotten about DDIs USA ak and no one will be talking about it.
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The Green Mountain barrel is actually very solid. I wouldn't call that a shit barrel.
It's ok, that's it. It's our best option right now in the us for a ak barrel. Everyone makes that barrel out to be something it's not. Daniel Defense needs to make a CHF ak barrel, the market would explode.
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Oh and another thing, how in the hell did DDI let that first dudes rifle leave the factory? Did they not run the bolt or what?
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Old 11-28-2016, 11:27 AM   #32
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They do not possess the correct methods or materials to make this happen and come even close to import quality. Need it be repeated a million times? Imports come from manufacturers that have produced the same rifles for decades. No bugs to work out. DDI had no finished product. Then Trump was elected and basically killed the game plan. Finally why the hell would you buy an all American made AK clone?
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Looks like Rob's (AKOU) rifle broke again also, there was a video he had up for a short amount of time labeled DDI hammer forged 1297 rounds bye bye bye. Looks like it broke another extractor.
Where'd that video disappear to?
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The second video looks as if the carrier is not moving "fast" enough. Seems sluggish.
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Finally why the hell would you buy an all American made AK clone?
Because it's interesting. Look at the entire history of the consumer gun market for the last what ~200 years. People don't always want the popular option.
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