Why is this forum so DEAD!

Polish Taipan · 07-18-2004, 08:12 PM

RPK's are so cool, but its a ghost town around here. I was thinking that we should gives some calls around to different places and let them know we want more RPK kits to come in, but with it being so dead around here I don't know if anybody else is with me.

Taipan

mbakercad · 07-18-2004, 08:57 PM

Speaking for myself, I already have one and not in the market for another so I have very little 'original' post in this forum. However I do check it from time to time to see if anyone has a question or pics to post.

I'm sure everyone has seen it, but mine is in the thread below.
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1595

RPK's are cool! My biggest complaint is the receiver issue. Mine is built on a Maadi receiver but I sure wish I had a true buldged RPK type.

16r40 · 07-19-2004, 01:07 AM

I have a MAADI RPM I put some RPK furniture on......yeah I know it isn't a real RPK.....but considering what they want for a decent RPK barrrel, I'll stick to my MAADI. IO did import some romanian RPK kits a couple three years back.........and from the reviews that folks wrote after buying them, the barrels were shot out piece of garbage.

VECTOR ARMS will be coming out with a RPD (made from bulgarian kits) either at the end of this month or next, which is built on their receiver. price for them is going to be 1995 bucks, which is a very good price for a belt fed, if the RPD kits are anything like the condition of their 74s and krinks that were imported, it will be a nice...... I'm on VECTOR's list for one.......no down payment and no obligation to buy.

Polish Taipan · 07-19-2004, 04:12 AM

I'll having a NHM-91 coming soon, and I'm planning on putting a Z-Recto set on her. I"m thinking of picking up one of KVAR's RPK 74 barrel assemblies, but not sure how I want to put it together. Maybe as a Buligie RPK74F on a milled reciever, I think that would be rather unique in the US. I also have a Saiga in 7.62 w/ the 20" barrel coming that I'm planning a sort of RPK-lite project with.
Now....If I could lay my hands on a whole good condition kit.......................................Taipan

fargo007 · 07-19-2004, 09:08 AM

My NHM-91 should be coming this week. Guess I better get some x39's.

Without a doubt, a drum fed semi auto RPK is the best and most affordable choice available in a squad support style firearm. It's affordable, accurate, based on the most reliable action there is, cheap to shoot, parts are widespread, and cheap (barrels excepted), decent drum capacity etc.

The downsides, are that it doesn't have a QC barrel, and it heats up fast. In F/A it would also be criticized for being closed bolt, but there are many closed bolt machine guns in service. The HK21E, 23E come to mind. In semi, this is hardly an issue though.

I have an RSA trigger set, and soupbowl ready to make me a stock set so I can get rid of the butthole stock. He needs to know if the receiver back is straight, angled or curved. Any of you guys with NHM-91's know this?

Thanks,

--Fargo007

pb · 07-19-2004, 04:10 PM

The rear of the receiver is straight.

Be advised, if you install a Russian laminated stock it must be 'thinned' to fit inside the Chinese receiver.

BTW, anyone know where I can geta pair of red laminated RPK/AKM hand guards ?

HungAK · 07-19-2004, 05:07 PM

The word is that some stamped "proper" RPK receivers will be hitting the market soon. I have been e-mailing the gentleman that told me this, and I have seen the pre-production samples. I can hardly wait!!!!!!!! I also have a Maadi RPM configured as an RPK "lite", with rusian laminated stocks. I love it, but the barrel looks like a pencil, next to the real thing.

Polish Taipan · 07-19-2004, 05:21 PM

Hmmm proper RPK recievers huh? Ah yes Global Trades right? A gunsmith mentioned to me that they were going to put out a RPK receiver. Now if I pick up a KVAR RPK 74 barrel I'm told that the 23mm RPK trunnion they sell will work with that but its for 7.62, how does that work with a '74 bolt? I'm still wondering about these bolt/recevier issues with a milled reciever too. Does a milled reveiver dampen recoil much?

fargo007 · 07-19-2004, 06:32 PM

Thanks peanut butter. He needed to know that to fit it properly.

It's a US made buttstock I'm having made in maple from SoupBowl Enterprises.

Gotta watch that parts count!

The most important feature on an RPK is the barrel, and that's what I just don't see around. We could build em all day with good barrels.

I hear the InterOrdnance barrels are shot out bad, and K VAR doesn't have any in 7.62x39.

--Fargo007

gassaway · 07-19-2004, 09:53 PM

i ordered 2 from io one was a 68 very used and the other a 1986 with actually a very workable bore.. think its a hit and miss and i got lucky just a thought

Polish Taipan · 07-20-2004, 04:54 AM

Yep, I was aware of the fitting issue, Z Recto is actually going to premod them for me when I order em. Now for parts issues, I plan on using one of his pistol grips, swapping out the FCG to a RSA group, swapping out the muzzle brake for a US made PKM (PMK?) style flash hider in the Great month of September. Now is the piston already a US part? If not I'll have to swap that out unless you guys have some other ideas............................................. ..........Taipan

Edited for horrible grammer

gtbehary · 07-20-2004, 07:46 AM

On a couple of the other popular AK boards, I have a post called "RPK Nightmare". I purchased a KVAR barrel assembly and also a 23mm 5.45 trunion. The first problem that I encountered was the fact that the ramp on the left side of the trunion that starts the bolt rotating needed drastic reshaping/resizing. The placement of the sightbase and gasetube is questionable, which caused me to have to trim and adjust everything. The ears on the upper side of the trunion are narrower than the sight block...more fitting and grinding. Pressing the barrel was really a chore and my XEBEC push block was destroyed in the process. Headspace worked out perfect.
You have to realize that the trunion that I used was not an RPK trunion, just a 5.45 23mm trunion. I have no idea what it was meant for, but it was new. Even the holes were not drilled in it.
The RPK is complete exept for drilling and pinning the front and rear sites, gas block and finishing the receiver that looks as if a truck run over it.
gtbehary

Quote:

Originally Posted by fargo007

Thanks peanut butter. He needed to know that to fit it properly.

It's a US made buttstock I'm having made in maple from SoupBowl Enterprises.

Gotta watch that parts count!

The most important feature on an RPK is the barrel, and that's what I just don't see around. We could build em all day with good barrels.

I hear the InterOrdnance barrels are shot out bad, and K VAR doesn't have any in 7.62x39.

--Fargo007

HungAK · 07-20-2004, 05:32 PM

I have also heard that a lot of Yugo RPK kits will be coming in later this year, but will be 7.62 NATO. Yeah, baby!

Polish Taipan · 07-21-2004, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungAK

I have also heard that a lot of Yugo RPK kits will be coming in later this year, but will be 7.62 NATO. Yeah, baby!

That sounds great. Were these limited to 20 round mags? I wonder if extra mags will be problematic to get. Would a 7.62R piston work with these? (Thinking about US Parts)

fargo007 · 07-21-2004, 10:13 AM

Personally, I don't like 7.62 NATO for an RPK. That's just my preference. I like the round, and I believe in it for a GPMG, but not for this gun, and I'll give my reasons:

1. mags -- virtually nonexistent
2. drums -- nonexistent
3. cost -- you'll shoot 2-3x the x39 for the same price.
4. recoil -- it would really beat the crap out of the gun, and your ass too. The kalashnikov system was designed for 7.62x39. I'm not sure the receiver is fortified to the degree required for 7.62Nato.

--Fargo007

HungAK · 07-21-2004, 11:36 AM

There are Galil, Valmet and Yugo AKs chambered for 7.62 NATO. I think that if a milled receiver were used, there would be no problem with strength or rigidity. Hopefully there will be some magazines that come with the kits. The Zastava M-76 8mm kits come with 4 magazines, maybe these will come with at least one or two. Would the milled receiver that is to be made by Ohio Rapid Fire for the 8mm M-76, work with the 308?

Polish Taipan · 07-21-2004, 04:27 PM

In a sense there are RPK's in 7.62 Nato already for sale in the US, they're called Saigas. Ive heard different things on the front trunnion, that it only has the RPK bulge on one side and also that it has them on both sides (anyone know for sure?). It would seem that these rifles are ok on a stamped RPK reciever. Still a gun that is limited to 20 rounds doesn't seem to fit the SAW role in my mind no matter what furniture you put on it. (10 rounds for the moment for the Saiga)

07-18-2004, 08:12 PM	#1
Polish Taipan Member AKaholic #: 2279 Join Date: May 2004 Location: WA Posts: 124	Why is this forum so DEAD! RPK's are so cool, but its a ghost town around here. I was thinking that we should gives some calls around to different places and let them know we want more RPK kits to come in, but with it being so dead around here I don't know if anybody else is with me. Taipan

07-19-2004, 01:07 AM	#3
16r40 Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 184 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: sunny cleveland Posts: 3,669	I have a MAADI RPM I put some RPK furniture on......yeah I know it isn't a real RPK.....but considering what they want for a decent RPK barrrel, I'll stick to my MAADI. IO did import some romanian RPK kits a couple three years back.........and from the reviews that folks wrote after buying them, the barrels were shot out piece of garbage. VECTOR ARMS will be coming out with a RPD (made from bulgarian kits) either at the end of this month or next, which is built on their receiver. price for them is going to be 1995 bucks, which is a very good price for a belt fed, if the RPD kits are anything like the condition of their 74s and krinks that were imported, it will be a nice...... I'm on VECTOR's list for one.......no down payment and no obligation to buy. __________________ "I can make this march, and make georgia howl" General William Tecumseh Sherman Last edited by 16r40; 07-19-2004 at 02:59 AM.

07-19-2004, 09:53 PM	#10
gassaway Member AKaholic #: 2258 Join Date: May 2004 Location: sterling co Posts: 132	barrel i ordered 2 from io one was a 68 very used and the other a 1986 with actually a very workable bore.. think its a hit and miss and i got lucky just a thought

07-18-2004, 08:57 PM	#2
mbakercad Senior Member AKaholic #: 1819 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: WV Posts: 590	Speaking for myself, I already have one and not in the market for another so I have very little 'original' post in this forum. However I do check it from time to time to see if anyone has a question or pics to post. I'm sure everyone has seen it, but mine is in the thread below. http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1595 RPK's are cool! My biggest complaint is the receiver issue. Mine is built on a Maadi receiver but I sure wish I had a true buldged RPK type.

07-19-2004, 04:12 AM	#4
Polish Taipan Member AKaholic #: 2279 Join Date: May 2004 Location: WA Posts: 124	I'll having a NHM-91 coming soon, and I'm planning on putting a Z-Recto set on her. I"m thinking of picking up one of KVAR's RPK 74 barrel assemblies, but not sure how I want to put it together. Maybe as a Buligie RPK74F on a milled reciever, I think that would be rather unique in the US. I also have a Saiga in 7.62 w/ the 20" barrel coming that I'm planning a sort of RPK-lite project with. Now....If I could lay my hands on a whole good condition kit.......................................Taipan

07-19-2004, 09:08 AM	#5
fargo007 Member AKaholic #: 2357 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 249	My NHM-91 should be coming this week. Guess I better get some x39's. Without a doubt, a drum fed semi auto RPK is the best and most affordable choice available in a squad support style firearm. It's affordable, accurate, based on the most reliable action there is, cheap to shoot, parts are widespread, and cheap (barrels excepted), decent drum capacity etc. The downsides, are that it doesn't have a QC barrel, and it heats up fast. In F/A it would also be criticized for being closed bolt, but there are many closed bolt machine guns in service. The HK21E, 23E come to mind. In semi, this is hardly an issue though. I have an RSA trigger set, and soupbowl ready to make me a stock set so I can get rid of the butthole stock. He needs to know if the receiver back is straight, angled or curved. Any of you guys with NHM-91's know this? Thanks, --Fargo007

07-19-2004, 04:10 PM	#6
pb Member Contributor AKaholic #: 265 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 28 43 90 97 15 23 Posts: 38	The rear of the receiver is straight. Be advised, if you install a Russian laminated stock it must be 'thinned' to fit inside the Chinese receiver. BTW, anyone know where I can geta pair of red laminated RPK/AKM hand guards ?

07-19-2004, 05:07 PM	#7
HungAK New Member AKaholic #: 2134 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 23	The word is that some stamped "proper" RPK receivers will be hitting the market soon. I have been e-mailing the gentleman that told me this, and I have seen the pre-production samples. I can hardly wait!!!!!!!! I also have a Maadi RPM configured as an RPK "lite", with rusian laminated stocks. I love it, but the barrel looks like a pencil, next to the real thing.

07-19-2004, 05:21 PM	#8
Polish Taipan Member AKaholic #: 2279 Join Date: May 2004 Location: WA Posts: 124	Hmmm proper RPK recievers huh? Ah yes Global Trades right? A gunsmith mentioned to me that they were going to put out a RPK receiver. Now if I pick up a KVAR RPK 74 barrel I'm told that the 23mm RPK trunnion they sell will work with that but its for 7.62, how does that work with a '74 bolt? I'm still wondering about these bolt/recevier issues with a milled reciever too. Does a milled reveiver dampen recoil much?

07-19-2004, 06:32 PM	#9
fargo007 Member AKaholic #: 2357 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 249	Thanks peanut butter. He needed to know that to fit it properly. It's a US made buttstock I'm having made in maple from SoupBowl Enterprises. Gotta watch that parts count! The most important feature on an RPK is the barrel, and that's what I just don't see around. We could build em all day with good barrels. I hear the InterOrdnance barrels are shot out bad, and K VAR doesn't have any in 7.62x39. --Fargo007

07-20-2004, 04:54 AM	#11
Polish Taipan Member AKaholic #: 2279 Join Date: May 2004 Location: WA Posts: 124	Yep, I was aware of the fitting issue, Z Recto is actually going to premod them for me when I order em. Now for parts issues, I plan on using one of his pistol grips, swapping out the FCG to a RSA group, swapping out the muzzle brake for a US made PKM (PMK?) style flash hider in the Great month of September. Now is the piston already a US part? If not I'll have to swap that out unless you guys have some other ideas............................................. ..........Taipan Edited for horrible grammer

07-20-2004, 05:32 PM	#13
HungAK New Member AKaholic #: 2134 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 23	I have also heard that a lot of Yugo RPK kits will be coming in later this year, but will be 7.62 NATO. Yeah, baby!

07-21-2004, 10:13 AM	#15
fargo007 Member AKaholic #: 2357 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 249	Personally, I don't like 7.62 NATO for an RPK. That's just my preference. I like the round, and I believe in it for a GPMG, but not for this gun, and I'll give my reasons: 1. mags -- virtually nonexistent 2. drums -- nonexistent 3. cost -- you'll shoot 2-3x the x39 for the same price. 4. recoil -- it would really beat the crap out of the gun, and your ass too. The kalashnikov system was designed for 7.62x39. I'm not sure the receiver is fortified to the degree required for 7.62Nato. --Fargo007

07-21-2004, 11:36 AM	#16
HungAK New Member AKaholic #: 2134 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 23	There are Galil, Valmet and Yugo AKs chambered for 7.62 NATO. I think that if a milled receiver were used, there would be no problem with strength or rigidity. Hopefully there will be some magazines that come with the kits. The Zastava M-76 8mm kits come with 4 magazines, maybe these will come with at least one or two. Would the milled receiver that is to be made by Ohio Rapid Fire for the 8mm M-76, work with the 308?

07-21-2004, 04:27 PM	#17
Polish Taipan Member AKaholic #: 2279 Join Date: May 2004 Location: WA Posts: 124	In a sense there are RPK's in 7.62 Nato already for sale in the US, they're called Saigas. Ive heard different things on the front trunnion, that it only has the RPK bulge on one side and also that it has them on both sides (anyone know for sure?). It would seem that these rifles are ok on a stamped RPK reciever. Still a gun that is limited to 20 rounds doesn't seem to fit the SAW role in my mind no matter what furniture you put on it. (10 rounds for the moment for the Saiga)

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