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Old 07-11-2015, 08:46 AM   #1
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Default IV8888 WASR Failure After 265 Rounds Full Auto

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Old 07-11-2015, 09:04 AM   #2
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Ahhhhh. Naww.

Here come the WASR haters.
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To be fair, this rifle was converted to full auto. I still expected the rifle to last much longer though.
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Meow...???Kalashn is pulling his hair out right now!
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Fixed it with a tree and a hammer. Rifle is fine.
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He keeps calling it a Century gun. It is not a Century gun, it is a Century imported Romanian gun built for export.
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Hopefully the results of this video will bring the WASR price back to ($399- $499) instead of the current prices ($550-$599)
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Wait, I thought only NPAP ak's fail.
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Old 07-11-2015, 09:59 AM   #11
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Wait, I thought only NPAP ak's fail.
I thought AK's NEVER failed!
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Rifles are notorious for expelling projectiles.
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calling bullshit on this one, watch them run a c39v2 or ras "pos" 47 and it work fine. a barrel does not simply walk out without shearing the barrel pin and trunion rivets. sound like century's paying top dollar to push their turd u.s guns on people
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calling bullshit on this one, watch them run a c39v2 or ras "pos" 47 and it work fine. a barrel does not simply walk out without shearing the barrel pin and trunion rivets. sound like century's paying top dollar to push their turd u.s guns on people
Come on! They're almost as competent as IO...



But I agree, there had to be an incorrect assembly. And I would have loved to see the field repair video.

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Sam7 SFK, problem solved
It would just break the Hammer.
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if they had to hammer the barrel back into place, the barrel pin is obviously broken thereby making this gun have a possibly incorrect headspace. the barrel pin never appeared messed up, this smells of bullshit
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Well until anybody produces a failure vid on the C39V2, I guess it's the new gold standard. LOL.
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Well until anybody produces a failure vid on the C39V2, I guess it's the new gold standard. LOL.
really good timing for the golden turd... i mean standard to have multiple praise videos
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Old 07-11-2015, 10:24 AM   #19
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I don't think you can simply write this failure off as the gun being assembled I correctly. The rifle failed because it was run hard as hell...you cant blame the barrel droop on incorrect assembly. I know Romanian hammer forging isn't near the quality of Bulgarian or Russian barrels but the video clearly showed barrel droop. I am really surprised the rifle functioned with that mangled barrel though, that was impressive they fixed it with a trailer hitch and a tree lol.

I wish they would have used an AK with a heavier barrel in order to be as close to apples to apples to the FaXon barreled M4 they tested. That rifle appeared to have a SOCOM profiled barrel which isn't an HBaR but close to it. If they wanted to do it right they would use a higher quality Ak period even though I consider a WASR a good rifle for the money.
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Would like to see a similar test using the upcoming PSA AKM, I have a feeling that it's going to outperform the V2 & RAS!
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Old 07-11-2015, 10:32 AM   #21
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Here comes Rob Ski with another catastrophic failure post.
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in the video he first says "the gas tube walked out" lol then he says the trunnion was walking out as the reason it failed. He also pointed to the gap between the RSB and trunnion as evidence lol. That gap is normal and the end that retains the top cover is flush with the trunnion as it should be. Also a trunnion having excess headspace wouldnt keep it from going into battery (Barrel walking out), a trunnion with too little would.
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Something just isn't right. That rifle should have handled the round count easily. Pretty crazy.
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To be fair, this rifle was converted to full auto. I still expected the rifle to last much longer though.
That's not any different than the WASR's, N-PAPS, Saigas etc that have been used at Henderson Defense/Battlefield Vegas and the subject of the "Hard Truths from actual Real World Testing" thread

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in the video he first says "the gas tube walked out" lol then he says the trunnion was walking out as the reason it failed. He also pointed to the gap between the RSB and trunnion as evidence lol. That gap is normal and the end that retains the top cover is flush with the trunnion as it should be. Also a trunnion having excess headspace wouldnt keep it from going into battery (Barrel walking out), a trunnion with too little would.
Well, to give him the benefit of the doubt, he said that the gas tube on the AR he put to the test was the cause of it failing after 800+ rounds when it was the barrel that actually blew out!
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Interesting is also the fact that a 4150 AR barrel outlasted the AK's cold hammer forged barrel which some people on this site act like is a magical process that makes a barrel invincible...it goes to show that cross sectional area is more important than the process used to create it...if I had an M16/4 lower I would love to do a meltdown using a 4140, 4150, and CHF barrel with the same profile to settle the barrel material/process debate once an for all...
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Looks like the gas tube was either too short or too long putting pressure on the barrel causing a slight bend/ piston to gas block alignment issue causing it to not go into full battery.dude is deffentially an idiot.he clams to Be an ak fan but failed to realize the trunnion to rsb gap is normal.that imo was a jam not a barrel failure
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I wonder if DRCHENEY would agree with this video based on his MG experiences
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Hopefully the results of this video will bring the WASR price back to ($399- $499) instead of the current prices ($550-$599)
Only the RAS-47 failing and Century ceasing production on it will do that. Then there's the CV whatever that needs to die as well.
Otherwise they will keep the prices high so they can compete.
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Interesting is also the fact that a 4150 AR barrel outlasted the AK's cold hammer forged barrel which some people on this site act like is a magical process that makes a barrel invincible...it goes to show that cross sectional area is more important than the process used to create it...if I had an M16/4 lower I would love to do a meltdown using a 4140, 4150, and CHF barrel with the same profile to settle the barrel material/process debate once an for all...
Pretty sure that Faxton barrel they used was 4140 melonite treated.
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Pretty sure that Faxton barrel they used was 4140 melonite treated.
That would be even more impressive but on their website all the barrels with that type profile and the majority of barrels I saw were all 4150 but it is hard to tell how old the barrel was on the AR he used...
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I think the flaw is in the AKs piston system myself. It puts a lot of pressure on the barrel pushing back with the gases. That's one area where DI gas system is better I think.
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It's because it was not fully and properly magnitized. By now everyone knows the Romnians suck at magnetizing their AKs. And they are all second rate junk.
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