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Old 06-06-2014, 05:23 PM   #1
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Default Pioneer Arms Polish Radom ??

I saw this at AIM and it's peaked my interest as I've been looking for a classic looking AK that's not a WASR (nothing against them just want something different)

This looks to check the right boxes.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.as...63527-18007861
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Old 06-06-2014, 05:30 PM   #2
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I just saw these.

edit: did some research, looks like Pioneer is another factory in the town of Radom. Their sole importer is IO

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Radom is not weapons manufacturer. It is a town, 60miles south from Warsaw. Polish AKs were made in "Łucznik" (Archer - known from "11" code) factory in Radom. Also so called "Radom Pistol" - wz.35 VIS (mod 1935 VIS) were made here. In middle '90s "Łucznik" gone bankrupt. It's assets were sold. On small part of orginal factory new company was established called Fabryka Broni "Łucznik" - Radom sp. z o.o. (Weapons Factory "Archer" - Radom Ltd. This company is considered to be continuation of original "Łucznik" and this company makes wz.96 Beryl assault rifle. But they do not make AKM or AKMS. Stock of parts for milled AK, kbkg wz.60, AKM and AKMS were bought by different private owned companies (Works 11 among them; they own rights to "11" logo and to MAG pistol developed in "Łucznik") that still assemble AK, AKM and AKMS from them.

Pioneer Arms Radom is young (10 years) company with US capital, that started to make double barreled shotguns in Radom (after "Łucznik" bankrupted, there was no shortage of place and workforce here for weapons factory). I was told that they shotguns are very good for Cowboy shooting, but they do not "manufacture" AKs - they may put them together from leftover old parts, like other companies are doing here. PPS they make is probably also assembled from leftover parts or refurbished military reserve that was surplused
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_95/14..._Classic_.html


pretty sure these are the same rifles:
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114739

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Old 06-06-2014, 06:48 PM   #3
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Weren't these rumored to be built with reject Romy parts?
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Old 06-07-2014, 09:07 PM   #4
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I am considering one. If it has a bayonet lug, and meets ak accuracy/reliability specs, then I am probably going to pick one up
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Old 06-07-2014, 09:17 PM   #5
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Look at the reviews of those. I'd much rather buy a new WASR if I were in the market.
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Old 06-07-2014, 09:34 PM   #6
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I am considering one. If it has a bayonet lug, and meets ak accuracy/reliability specs, then I am probably going to pick one up
no bayo lug
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No scope rail either.....what kinda sporter is that?
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Old 06-07-2014, 11:49 PM   #8
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Look at the reviews of those. I'd much rather buy a new WASR if I were in the market.
Agree. And as rstrobel's posts shows, Pioneer and their importers like to use the 'famous Radom plant' marketing ploy. They are not made by FB, manufacturer of the Vis from the 1930's-40's and current Beryl rifles.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:59 AM   #9
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Pioneer and their importers like to use the 'famous Radom plant' marketing ploy.
You can expect "Radom made SVD" in nearest future.
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