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Old 01-10-2007, 03:39 AM   #1
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Default Underground storage container.....

Just wondering what you guys have used for underground storage containers....for ammo guns ect...

I have some property with no existing structures, haven't started the house yet...but need to keep my guns there where they are legal...

Obviously I can't just hang them in trees...lol...I'm thinking of getting them underground for some long term storage. What would you guys recommend for containers?

Hot and dry in summertime, and wet and cold in winter. The property is on a hill so water usually does not collect in the area.
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:09 AM   #2
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you're kidding?

if you are serious, get some pvc pipe, some pipe cement and a few threaded end caps. 10" white schedule 40 pipe should be fine.

cut the pipes into applicable lengths (50"-52" should hold your longest rifles). glue a threaded end adapter on each end. silicone grease up the endcaps before threading them into the adapters.

http://www.1stconnect.com/anozira/Si...eaponcache.htm

http://members.aol.com/norustbags/cache.html

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Old 01-10-2007, 07:20 AM   #3
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campybob,
I'm certain he is serious, I've spoken to other who do this.
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:03 AM   #4
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it sounds like ak1200 is in a state where certain of his firearms are prohibited.
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:28 AM   #5
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Why do some folks in Australia pour their old motor oil into their gardens?
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...to keep their guns from rusting
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:02 AM   #6
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1. smear grease inside and outside of metal after removing wood metal (store in sepatate plastic bags).

2. insert greased firearm into vapor seal foil/polymer bag and seal.

3. place bagged firearms in airtight pvc or abs plastic storage tubes.

4. put dessicant in tube and seal.

5. REMEMBER WHERE THE HELL YOU BURRIED THE TUBE!
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:22 PM   #7
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Yes I'm serious....why would this be a joke?

I have residency in Reno NV where I own property, My AK's are legal there...but I haven't started to build any structures on the property yet...meanwhile I'm staying in Truckee, CA with my GF...where my Ak's are not legal. So to stay legal I need to keep my Ak's in NV. See why I want to do this?

PVC, I thought of that, but was hoping there was some sort of larger type of box that could hold everything. But it looks like the PVC would be the best.
Any other suggestions would be nice. Perhaps I can submerge a plastic 55 gal drum with sealing lid with the PVC tubes inside? or would the drum just fill with water?
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:46 PM   #8
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Place the drum with the sealed end UP so that water can't get in. Make it light enough to lift and put on some synthetic rope handles first.

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Old 01-10-2007, 02:44 PM   #9
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perhaps a monitored secure storage facility? http://www.secureselfstore.com/
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:52 PM   #10
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Or maybe a gun store? Scottsdale Gun Club in AZ stores MGs for people according to the Guns & Ammo article.

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Old 01-10-2007, 08:15 PM   #11
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In The Turner Diaries they stored guns and ammo in 55 gallon drums and coated them in roofing tar or something similar.
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:22 PM   #12
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Fill the drum with synthetic automatic transmission fluid. I used to bury single handguns in other countries so I'd have one when I needed one abroad.I either forgot exactly where some of them were or somebody found some of them.
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Old 01-11-2007, 09:19 AM   #13
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Fill the drum with synthetic automatic transmission fluid. I used to bury single handguns in other countries so I'd have one when I needed one abroad.I either forgot exactly where some of them were or somebody found some of them.
And the lesson here is....I...guess....fill the drum with synthetic automatic transmission fluid, but then mark the site of your handgun burial with one of those traffic control sawhorses with the flashing yellow light on the top?

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thu...ion_signal.jpg

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Actually for handgun burial, I'd bet a standard "army surplus" ammo can would do. The cans are readily available, sturdy, have a waterproof seal built into the lid, and can be covered with grease on the outside to protect the can from rust. If the burial site is in a wooded area, or in some trackless field, a handheld GPS to get the exact satellite coordinates might help to find it later.

And "army surplus" can mean all KINDS of heavy duty sealable containers:

http://www.detectors-surplus.com/images/Image133.jpg
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:21 PM   #14
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If it were me I would either keep the guns well hidden but nearby until I was able to move, or store them at a secure site until the move. Hiding something out in the wilds just seems too risky.

You wouldnt be able to be nearby to monitor the area in case something happened. Someone might see you headed out with a length of PVC pipe and coming back without it. You might forget the location. etc etc etc.

My uncle used to have a fake floor in one of his kids' rooms. It opened up into a concrete and steel bunker that would have held a couple hundred long arms easily as well as quite a bit of ammo. He didnt use it for guns however.

I was always amazed that no matter where he was in his house, my uncle could arm himself in a matter of seconds, many times without even having to take a step.
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:35 PM   #15
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If you go the bury route don't forget to salt the area. You don't want some old lady with a metal detector stumbling on it.
A few years ago Soldier Of Fortune ran a article on this. They advised taking small sections of Rebar, soaking them in urine ( this helps the metal breakdown and will leave a larger signiture on a metal detector ) and burying them in the same area.
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:01 PM   #16
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One of these, coated in axle grease...


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Old 01-11-2007, 11:20 PM   #17
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Just a suggestion. Get yourself a vacuum sealer. The kind for food storage. They should come with long rolls of storage bags. You can make them to whatever length you desire. When used in conjunction with other rust prevention it should be fool proof. I believe the unit goes for about 40 bucks on sale. I have one but have never contemplated such a use for it till now. Just remember to wrap whatever in something to keep sharp edges from making punctures. Then use your pipes for security from mechanical damage. Another question is it legal to bury your guns? They would not be locked up so what are the laws concerning this in your area? Weigh the possibilities? Oh oh paranoia setting in. Where is my Thorazine?
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:53 AM   #18
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You could always bury a shipping container, and build
yourself a vault / underground place to shoot or something. $3500 8x40, NIB.

The closer you are to a seaport, the cheaper the used ones are.

I saw pictures of 3 stacked on top of each other above ground in California. 1200 sq' apartment. Spiral staircase. Probably sold it for $500,000 and moved to Texas, like the rest of them. lol.
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:45 AM   #19
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LOL....thanks guys....

I'm going to try the 25mm ammo box from Sportsmans Guide. With the guns wraped and sealed with a food saver.

Now what type of oil should I use?
Cosmoline? < Did I spell that rihgt?

...Or should I just use regular gun oil?
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Old 01-12-2007, 06:35 AM   #20
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if it was me, I would rent a secure storage space....... I wouldn't be burying them in the ground like some squirrel storing his nuts.....but whatever floats your boat
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use GREASE. not oil.

and remove the wood/plastic prior to greasing up the steel.
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Old 01-12-2007, 08:43 AM   #22
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Thundergod, no he wasnt a Viking, just a crazy redneck who was into various "weeds". Thats what he stored in his "vault".

Come to think of it he did look like a Viking. He was 6 foot tall, LONG blonde hair, long blonde beard, and about 400 pounds. In his heyday had a rep as one of the meanest people you ever didnt want to meet. Even the cops were afraid of him.

He used to hunt squirrel with a double barrel 10 guage shotgun. He would get high smoking and have me and my brother go and retreive the dead squirrels. Lots of fun.
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My uncle used to have a fake floor in one of his kids' rooms. It opened up into a concrete and steel bunker that would have held a couple hundred long arms easily as well as quite a bit of ammo. He didnt use it for guns however.
jesus....i just amassed a huge amount of respect for your uncle, man.
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:26 PM   #24
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Try 120mm morter ammo cans,I used to get them at the gun shows for $4 each their the same size as a 50 cal can only 30 inches tall and very stout.
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LOL....thanks guys....

I'm going to try the 25mm ammo box from Sportsmans Guide. With the guns wraped and sealed with a food saver.

Now what type of oil should I use?
Cosmoline? < Did I spell that rihgt?

...Or should I just use regular gun oil?
You can get Cosmoline from Midway.
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