OK, I need some input on a Vulcan receiver build.

[ETG]

Yeah I know - piece-of-shit. I bought a new M95A from ORF for $450 that included a receiver - they just didn't say it was a Vulcan. Already see I'm going to cut out the center support and replace that - real quality work there. Anyway, the receiver is marked 7.62x39 and .223. Has anyone built a M90 or M95 on this receiver? The receiver is finished in black - anyone know if they are heat treated? Is the ejector really long enough for a 223 build? Any problems??? Thanks.

[ETG]

Ummmm, I made a mistake - the receiver really says 7.62x39 .233 !!!!! What is a .233???

[16r40]

Originally Posted by ETG

Ummmm, I made a mistake - the receiver really says 7.62x39 .233 !!!!! What is a .233???

is the 95 already built on a vulcan receiver?

the bright einstens that hacked out those receiver mis-stamped it, which does not surpise me that they would do that....given the "stellar" products they ship of that trailer park they are in.

as for the heat treatment of them..........you got a 50/50 chance that they heat treated it.....when you fire it and you start getting elongated trigger axis holes, and mushroomed ejector tab, you know they didn't heat treat it

if it was me, I would sell that POS off, if it's just the receiver.......if it's a built on it, I would call ORF and see if I can send this back and get another one built on a well known receiver that isn't a vulcan.

[allesennogwat]

I saw one of those receivers at the gun show last weekend.For ejector length even with a thick receiver the outside and center should still be in the same locations.Measure from outside the receiver accross to the tip of the ejector.The 223 should measure .590".Well really closer to .591" but most people just round off the one thou.No biggy.The 7.62 ejector measurement is .560".For reference 4.45 is .578".

[allesennogwat]

The original Yugo receivers are .060" think.Some American made receivers are .0635".Some are thinner at .050".And some could be .060".I don't know exactly how thick the Vulcans are but the one handled seemed a bit thin.

[ETG]

jwc0506, I was being facetious. I know what a 223 is. The idiots at Vulcan stamped .233 not .223. It would not be a challenge to remove the center support - you would have to see the itty-bitty rivet head on this thing!

allesennogwat, The receiver is 1.5mm (.059") thick and the ejector is long enough (.590"). The ejector rail is very thin - same thickness as the right side rail.

16r40, I would love to get a quality receiver but who has them for the M95A? I would be willing to mod the rear of a fixed stock receiver if I could find a good one. Haven't got a clue when/if Harland will make some more.

[jwc0506]

maybe they watch too much star trek and don't pay enough attn to makin ak recievers at vulcaannn? well if it works maybe u could shoot vulcan type .233 rounds out of it! jk! lol.

[ETG]

No it's not flat - it's rounded and looks stupid. I have cut several center supports out - one because I forgot to harden it and it bent. I use a drill guid (AK Builder) and drill down to the receiver then cut the center support in two places on the inside and just pull them out - not a big deal if you take your time and are careful.

[Mr.Krinkle]

That receiver will work just fine on your M95. You do not have to remove the center support. It is heat treated and the ejector claw is long enough for .223. At most you may have to file the back of the magwell opening a tiny bit to get the mag to click in. You can dry fit everything with screws and bolts to check for function before riveting. I assume you are using the factory Yugo mags.

[allesennogwat]

Yes the Vulcan Yugo receiver I saw at the gun show also had a thin ejector rail.If properly heat treated it may be alright.The current Russian Saiga rifles have thin ejector rails.

[Bret]

ETG, I'd say that you don't need to waste your time on that junk receiver. Nodakspud has said that they will be doing another run of receivers for the M95's. Get one of them. You can even have it custom serial numbered to match your kit. Nodakspud receivers have a very good reputation. The kits are great.

[ETG]

Nice looking receiver - wonder how long it will take Harlan to get them ready? I can go ahead and assemble on this one and can always demill it later.

Mr.Krinkle, the reason I was thinking about replacing the center support wasn't over concern about the center support being heat treated but the rivet. The head of the rivet isn't any bigger than the rivet itself and isn't really rounded - I can't even tell if it's mushroomed at all and there isn't enough sticking out to set it anymore. The other side is rounded not flattened (the selector side).

And yes jwc0506 - the did stamp it .233!!!!!

Thanks all.

[AKBuilder7255]

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[jwc0506]

Originally Posted by Bret

ETG, I'd say that you don't need to waste your time on that junk receiver. Nodakspud has said that they will be doing another run of receivers for the M95's. Get one of them. You can even have it custom serial numbered to match your kit. Nodakspud receivers have a very good reputation. The kits are great.

the kits may be great Bret.., but have you heard that they r real difficult to build? i do agree they look like great kits-but until they work out the recievers etc., i think i'll pass on um. Hey did you get ur romy riveted up yet? JWC

[jwc0506]

What i heard was the hammer is not catching right with the ejectors etc..., and that doesn't sound good. sounds like an advanced type of build to me. probably takes a little more exp., but hey! with time, a little toggling, welding etc., it can be done. but the m90-95's sound like a very difficult kit to build off of. JWC

[Bret]

jwc, from what I've read, they're somewhat more difficult to build than a typical AK. Quite a few people have done it, so there is experience on the boards if you have questions. Nodakspud actually provides instructions for the parts of the build process that are different. I'm going to attempt my M95 and M92 builds later down the road after I have some experience with some that are simpler and less costly. No, I have not finished my Romy build yet. I do have the magazines successfully locking in place and two rivets in the front trunion. Unfortunately, my free time is very sparce right now. I may have to literally do it one rivet at a time.

[ETG]

jwc - you can only do one rear rivet with a hammer - I used a rivet jig for mine after I used a ball pien hammer to start the mushroom - the rest are just like any other underfolder - well - the setting is - I had to make all the rivets for my M95A - only 2 were normal AK rivets - the upper two on the front trunion!!!

[jwc0506]

ETG that sounds like a work load! Where did you get the longer rivets? JWC

[ETG]

Mc Master Carr. I use 3/16" rivets for the larger rivets and turn the heads down to where they look like the normal ones - about .28" dia. You can also make them swell necks.

[jwc0506]

Etg thanks for the info i should try sum!

[yankeedan]

I bought one of those,not knowing anything about them.
holes for the locking mechanism for the underfolder,too small.
got the safety selector lever in,but it would not turn.
put the fire control group in,but the safety selector was off by 1/4" to catch the back of the trigger(after filing the inside of the receiver to get the selector lever to turn).
at that point i realized it was not going to get better.
fortunately, someone bought it before i drove down to the bridge where i was going to throw it as far as i could!!

[ETG]

OK, M95A and his little buddy finished :-) Receiver not as bad as I expected - front trunion actually only needed a little egging - trigger guard - a little undersized. Trigger axis pin hole all mashed over from pressing and they never attempted to straighten it out. Rear underfolder holes all F#%ked up - total redo. Haven't gotten it out yet - maybe after the Turkey is in the oven I can slip out :-) Something wrong with finish - more on that later - would have thought abrasive blast would have done it!!!

[ETG]

Just got back from trying it out. 30 round clip without a hiccup :-) Little feller still has some tweeking to do - disconnector isn't catching but it cycles great - before the carrier would hang up on the hammer. All in all - a good day :-)

[jwc0506]

ETG, i like that Yugo-good job!!! jwc0506

[John32369]

That's purty!

[ETG]

Thanks :-)

[arcom]

NoDakSpud addresses this by stating you need to bevel the edge of the hammer where it meets the disconnector. I did the bevel and did not encounter any problems.

HTH

[ETG]

arcom,
The disconnector problem was with the pistol. It wasn't a NoDak receiver - it was an AK Builder flat - no need to fudge with the geometry of the hammer/disconnector. I used the factory trigger and hammer. The disconnector was one that Bocefus included with the kit - not the origional. Just turned another sleeve/spacer for the disconnector and it worked perfectly. The first one was binding a little.

[Rotor]

I got one of these M95 vulcan combo packs from ORF too.

Not building yet but I'm taking notes here.


JR

[Rotor]

Here is the stamping in question. Pretty dumb.



And some of the rest.












JR

[C2VETTE]

I have some of these receivers for sale if anybody wants to try one. marasmfal@comcast.net

[ETG]

If I had another kit I would build on it again. Was a little frusterating opening up the holes for the underfolder but I have never tried any other underfolder receiver - always cut them out from a standard flat - this receiver is definately easier than that. Very happy with the end result :-)