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Default Oregon - Senate Bill SB1551 - Update: Committee work session tomorrow

Update 02/11/2014: Tomorrow the committee is scheduled to work on any potential amendments to SB 1551 (or even vote it out of committee?). You still have time to make another call or email. I don't know what the deadline was for written testimony, but you can try that as well. And be sure to pass it on to all your Oregon friends!!!! It's not over till the last day in February rolls by, and this years legislative session is close.

Update: Per Oregon Firearm Federation, written testimony can be submitted by noon tomorrow, 02/05/2014. Don't delay! start typing and get it in!For Oregon Residents (Or pass it on to someone you know in Oregon)

Things are heating up in Oregon next week. Please take 5-10 minutes to defend your 2A rights against the Gun-Control lobbyists. This is a bit long, but it is intended to give you all the tools and information you need to be an active participant this next week.

SB1551, which expands the current background check system to ALL sales, including private transactions, is scheduled to be heard this February 6th at 8-10am in Salem. Not surprisingly, the gun-control groups heard about it before the public and are encouraging their side to pack the hearing room (it still isnít public, so keep your ears open).

So what can you do? A lot more than you think! Be a part of the team, and not a sideline viewer. Your representatives DO listen. But you have to act.
ĒBut they never listenĒ BULL. They do. I've heard more than once that public opinion does sway their positions.
Pick one thing below, pick them all. The important thing is that you do something to make your opinion known. Now be active and get something done! We need to get this done together.

1. Contact the state Senate Judiciary Committee and/or your Representatives
2. Be a leader, Plan to attend the hearing this Thursday, February 6th, from 8am to 10am
3. Take a few extra minutes to submit written testimony if you cannot attend.
4. Take the message to others!
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1. Contact the State Senate Judiciary Committee today!
Senator Floyd Prozanski
Democrat - District 4 - South Lane and North Douglas Counties
Capitol Phone: 503-986-1704 District Phone: 541-342-2447
Email: Sen.FloydProzanski@state.or.us

Senator Betsy Close
Republican - District 8 - Albany
Capitol Phone: 503-986-1708
Capitol Address: 900 Court St. NE, S-303, Salem, Oregon 97301
Email: Sen.BetsyClose@state.or.us

Senator Michael Dembrow
Democrat - District 23 - Portland
Capitol Phone: 503-986-1723 District Phone: 503-281-0608
Capitol Address: 900 Court St. NE, S-407, Salem, Oregon 97301
Email: Sen.MichaelDembrow@state.or.us

Senator Jeff Kruse
Republican - District 1 - Roseburg
Capitol Phone: 503-986-1701 District Phone: 541-580-3276
Capitol Address: 900 Court St. NE, S-315, Salem, Oregon 97301
Email: Sen.JeffKruse@state.or.us

Senator Arnie Roblan
Democrat - District 5 - Coos Bay
Capitol Phone: 503-986-1705
Capitol Address: 900 Court St. NE, S-417, Salem, Oregon 97301
Email: Sen.ArnieRoblan@state.or.us
And/or send a message to your legislator!
Legislator Lookup
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2. Plan to attend the hearing this Thursday, February 6th, from 8am to 10am.

Take a friend and make it a road trip.
Information has already been leaked to the gun control activists before it being available to the public. Donít let them get the upper hand, even if it is just to show up to show your support for your fellow 2nd amendment supporters.

Please plan to arrive no later than 7 a.m. for the 8 a.m. hearing time. The hearing will start promptly at 8 a.m., and end promptly at 10 a.m.
The capitol doesn't open until 7:30am, but those in line before then get first shot at seats and signing up for hearing testimony.
Parking Information:

Street parking is available at ten-hour, coin-operated meters located throughout the Capitol Mall. Bring extra coins for meters.

The Yellow Lot and the Green Lot are two parking lots which accept credit cards. They are located between Summer and Winter Streets and between Union and Center Streets.

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3. Submitting Written Testimony about why you disagree with SB 1551
(Whether or not you attend the hearing or will speak).


The DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING WRITTEN TESTIMONY IS 5 PM ON Tuesday Feb. 6.
ANYONE IS WELCOME TO SUBMIT WRITTEN TESTIMONY FOR THE COMMITTEE HEARING.

SEND AN EMAIL TO: Mike.Reiley@state.or.us

The email subject line should read "Written Testimony Against Senate Bill 1551"
And begin your statement with "Chair Prozanski, Members of the Committee"

Identify yourself and provide the name of the community you live in.

Make a few key points about why it is important for you to see this bill fail and not be adopted.
Focus your statement only on SB 1551

PERSONAL STATEMENTS ARE FAR MORE EFFECTIVE THAN FORM LETTERS.

IN ORDER FOR YOUR WRITTEN COMMENTS TO BE INCLUDED IN TESTIMONY THEY MUST BE IN .PDF FORM

IF you have attachments, ensure they are in .PDF format ONLY.

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4. Get others involved!
  • Super-bowl halftime. Five minutes to protect your rights, or dip a few more chips? Which one will you regret if SB 1551 gets passed? Heck, if your buddies see you doing it, encourage them to do the same as well!
  • Pass this on to other website forums, gun ranges, other interested parties.
  • Start your own local group. Itís easier than you think.
  • Please circulate this announcement and urge others to attend or supply written testimony.
Things are heating up in Oregon next week. Please take 5-10 minutes to defend your 2A rights against the Gun-Control lobbyists. This is a bit long, but it is intended to give you all the tools and information you need to be an active participant this next week.

SB1551, which expands the current background check system to ALL sales, including private transactions, is scheduled to be heard this February 6th at 8-10am in Salem. Not surprisingly, the gun-control groups heard about it before the public and are encouraging their side to pack the hearing room (it still isn't public, so keep your ears open).

So what can you do? A lot more than you think! Be a part of the team, and not a sideline viewer. Your representatives DO listen. But you have to act.
ĒBut they never listenĒ BULL. They do. I've heard more than once that public opinion does sway their positions.
Pick one thing below, pick them all. The important thing is that you do something to make your opinion known. Now be active and get something done! We need to get this done together.

1. Contact the state Senate Judiciary Committee and/or your Representatives
2. Be a leader, Plan to attend the hearing this Thursday, February 6th, from 8am to 10am
3. Take a few extra minutes to submit written testimony if you cannot attend.
4. Take the message to others!
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1. Contact the State Senate Judiciary Committee today!
Senator Floyd Prozanski
Democrat - District 4 - South Lane and North Douglas Counties
Capitol Phone: 503-986-1704 District Phone: 541-342-2447
Email: Sen.FloydProzanski@state.or.us

Senator Betsy Close
Republican - District 8 - Albany
Capitol Phone: 503-986-1708
Capitol Address: 900 Court St. NE, S-303, Salem, Oregon 97301
Email: Sen.BetsyClose@state.or.us

Senator Michael Dembrow
Democrat - District 23 - Portland
Capitol Phone: 503-986-1723 District Phone: 503-281-0608
Capitol Address: 900 Court St. NE, S-407, Salem, Oregon 97301
Email: Sen.MichaelDembrow@state.or.us

Senator Jeff Kruse
Republican - District 1 - Roseburg
Capitol Phone: 503-986-1701 District Phone: 541-580-3276
Capitol Address: 900 Court St. NE, S-315, Salem, Oregon 97301
Email: Sen.JeffKruse@state.or.us

Senator Arnie Roblan
Democrat - District 5 - Coos Bay
Capitol Phone: 503-986-1705
Capitol Address: 900 Court St. NE, S-417, Salem, Oregon 97301
Email: Sen.ArnieRoblan@state.or.us
And/or send a message to your legislator!
Legislator Lookup
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2. Plan to attend the hearing this Thursday, February 6th, from 8am to 10am.

Take a friend and make it a road trip.
Information has already been leaked to the gun control activists before it being available to the public. Donít let them get the upper hand, even if it is just to show up to show your support for your fellow 2nd amendment supporters.

Please plan to arrive no later than 7 a.m. for the 8 a.m. hearing time. The hearing will start promptly at 8 a.m., and end promptly at 10 a.m.
The capitol doesn't open until 7:30am, but those in line before then get first shot at seats and signing up for hearing testimony.
Parking Information:

Street parking is available at ten-hour, coin-operated meters located throughout the Capitol Mall. Bring extra coins for meters.

The Yellow Lot and the Green Lot are two parking lots which accept credit cards. They are located between Summer and Winter Streets and between Union and Center Streets.

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3. Submitting Written Testimony about why you disagree with SB 1551
(Whether or not you attend the hearing or will speak).


The DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING WRITTEN TESTIMONY IS 5 PM ON Tuesday Feb. 6.
ANYONE IS WELCOME TO SUBMIT WRITTEN TESTIMONY FOR THE COMMITTEE HEARING.

SEND AN EMAIL TO: Mike.Riley@state.or.us

The email subject line should read "Written Testimony Against Senate Bill 1551"
And begin your statement with "Chair Prozanski, Members of the Committee"

Identify yourself and provide the name of the community you live in.

Make a few key points about why it is important for you to see this bill fail and not be adopted.
Focus your statement only on SB 1551

PERSONAL STATEMENTS ARE FAR MORE EFFECTIVE THAN FORM LETTERS.

IN ORDER FOR YOUR WRITTEN COMMENTS TO BE INCLUDED IN TESTIMONY THEY MUST BE IN .PDF FORM

IF you have attachments, ensure they are in .PDF format ONLY.

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4. Get others involved!
  • Super-bowl halftime. Five minutes to protect your rights, or dip a few more chips? Which one will you regret if SB 1551 gets passed? Heck, if your buddies see you doing it, encourage them to do the same as well!
  • Pass this on to other website forums, gun ranges, other interested parties.
  • Start your own local group. Itís easier than you think.
  • Please circulate this announcement and urge others to attend or supply written testimony.

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Old 02-02-2014, 08:21 PM   #2
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Default Examples to make your own message

Want to make your own statement, but don’t know what to write?

Here’s some starters that are short and sweet. Tweak it, copy it, make it your own. Try not to cookie cutter. Personal stories are best.

I’m telling you, if you can send an email, 5 MINUTES is all it takes. Don’t be one of those “why did they pass that law? I should have said something sooner” side-liners. Regret is hard to take!

And remember, if you want your written testimony as part of the hearings this Thursday,
the email should be addressed to the Senators. And the written testimony must be received no later THAN TUESDAY AT 5PM. The email should be sent to Mike.Riley@state.or. us and should contain the subject header "Written Testimony in Opposition to SB 1551"

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Dear Senator,
I urge you to vote NO on SB 1551. This bill is a registration scheme pure and simple. It does nothing to prevent felons from getting guns but is an unwarranted invasion of my privacy.
Vote against any restrictions on private transfers.
Yours,
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Dear Senator,
SB 1551 requires that virtually all private transfers of firearms receive the approval of the State Police. I find that to be offensive and intrusive. Currently qualified buyers at gun dealers are waiting weeks and even months to be “approved” by the police to exercise a basic right. I strongly oppose extending this to private transfers and gifts.
Vote against any restrictions on private transfers.
Yours,
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Dear Senator,
SB 1551 is one of the most poorly crafted pieces of legislation I have ever seen.
Under this bill an uncle can give a gun to his nephew but the nephew cannot return it without subjecting his uncle to a background check!
Under this bill I could not give a hunting rifle to my own father-in-law!
If my gun club allows someone taking a safety class to use one of our club owned guns, we’d be required to run a background check on the student and transfer the gun for the duration of the class. The student would then have to do the same to return it! This is lunacy.
Vote against any restrictions on private transfers.
Yours,
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Or here are some resources to craft our own!
The Case Against Gun Background Checks - ABC News
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...ground-checks/

Oregon doesn't need to expand gun background checks | The Oregon Catalyst
http://oregoncatalyst.com/26170-oreg...nd-checks.html

Oregon media peddling partisan background check poll | The Oregon Catalyst
http://oregoncatalyst.com/26243-oreg...heck-poll.html

Colorado recalls: voter polling that matters | The Oregon Catalyst
http://oregoncatalyst.com/26265-colo...g-matters.html
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Some other points, backed up with data

"DOJ report:Firearm-Related Murders Down 39 % Since 1993" , per “Firearm Violence, 1993-2011”, U.S. Department of Justice special report, May 2013.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/...ontrol-debate/

In 2010, there were 2393 denials, but only 90 prosecutions. Either the remaining 2390 were not worthy of follow up by the Oregon Police, or they were false positives.

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Old 02-02-2014, 08:39 PM   #3
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Been hammering these idiots, this fight has been a long time coming. The commies have been running this state for too long. This fight belongs to US ! Click on a link and say it the way it ought to be! Come on Brothers and sisters !!!!
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Thanks for the heads up, will be passing the info along
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I posted a reminder in the nw section also. This bill seems like it is sneaking up on everyone.
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All of you should get on to "ceasefire oregon" mailing list... they tell me about all his stuff and gun buy backs infiltrate the enemy
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For more information on universal/expanded background checks.

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This is what happened in Communfornia almost 25 years ago. All private transfers had to go through a FFL and background check even face to face and the 10 day wait while the FFL holds your guns.

All of this crap did nothing to decrease crime. This is not about crime and there needs to be an organized legal fight in your state or the gun grabbers will follow their playbook and you will become Communfornia in the near future.

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Everyone try again, or better yet try to attend.
Keep an eye on the senate schedule here. They may try to change it at the last minute

Bill status here:
https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/201...verview/SB1551

Senate committee info here:
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just remember people, if such laws are passed your state you will never be able to repeal them unless of course a revolution does happen, but until then rarely do you ever see these infringements repealed, the NRA has condoned many of them.. and trust me, these expanded background checks can and will be abused and used again you
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Please be sure to forward this info to other forums, friends, etc. We need to get the word out!
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There is a room scheduled now. From stop Oregon gun ban fb page.

Alright, ladies and gentleman, the senate judiciary committee hearing on SB 1551 (universal background checks and ban on private transfers) is going to be held in hearing room 343. At the elevator bank go to the 3rd floor, turn right and follow the hall to the end. Hearing room 343 is the last room on the left. I was just at the statehouse, exploring the halls and meeting with a few individuals of the house republican caucus. See you on Thursday morning!

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this is actually a very good idea.. learn about the anti-gun schemes as soon as these idiots think them up by joining their mailing lists and informing you of their intentions right from the start.. i think ill go sign up for a few and set them to automatically deliver to a separate folder in my email so they dont flood my main inbox with their filth

well, im speaking of other organizations, not cease fire oregon as i do not live in oregon.. though i was considering it
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this is actually a very good idea.. learn about the anti-gun schemes as soon as these idiots think them up by joining their mailing lists and informing you of their intentions right from the start..
I wouldn't be surprised if half of MDA's facebook likes are doing exactly that!

Oregon Firearms Federation still believes the meeting is a go, even though there is nothing scheduled for the day on the senate committee calendar, except that they are still meeting.
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From Off fb page

It's Official.

SB 1551 has been scheduled for Thursday morning at 8am Hearing Room 50 which is the Capitol basement.
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It's Official.

SB 1551 has been scheduled for Thursday morning at 8am Hearing Room 50 which is the Capitol basement.
It also sounds like Mark Kelly will be the surprise "out of town guest" as well.
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Here's the OFF summary below. This was my first experience at a hearing (I didn't speak but did give written testimony) and I though it was worth the long drive. I would not that I was very put off by Mark K.'s demeanor . Never acknowledged the audience, although he tried in his statement to connect Arizona and Oregon (their both western states...). When he was done, he got up and left. He didn't care to spend even a few minutes listening to the concern of the Oregon citizens whom he just told "you need this new law. Just because...".

Regarding ceasefire Oregon knowing a week before the public about the hearing..

EDIT: YOU CAN STILL SUBMIT TESTIMONY TILL NEXT WEEK!!!!!! With all the snow this weekend (unless your skiing), it's the perfect time to spend 5-10 minutes following the instructions above to send in your written testimony. Maybe do it with a friend and a beer! The more that gets in, the more reasons NOT to vote for it, the better.


02.06.14

Today's hearing on SB 1551, Senator Prozanski's gun registration expansion, was enlightening to say the least.

While gun owners are often referred to as a "vocal minority," the sign-up sheets for testimony show only 19 people in support of the bill, with 28 opposed.

First to testify was Trish Whitfield from the Oregon State Police ID unit.

While she did provide numbers for the total number of background checks done and the total number of denials, she did not provide any numbers for how many of those denials were for no cause.

She did not provide numbers for how many denials were actually felons, as opposed to people who were denied because they were not Oregon residents and simply misunderstood laws about non-resident purchases.

But far more interesting was that she could not provide any data at all about the number of "felons" who attempted a purchase and were denied and subsequently prosecuted.

The OSP has no info and can't share any info on this critical statistic.

But we know it is virtually never that a convicted felon attempts a transfer and is prosecuted for it. This, of course, demonstrates what a colossal farce SB 1551 is.

Celebrity victim Mark Kelly followed the OSP. Mark, as you know, is the former astronaut husband of Congresswoman Gabby Giffords. Giffords was shot along with others in Arizona by Jared Lee Loughner.

Kelly and Giffords are the spokesmodels for " Americans for Responsible Solutions" which has outraised all other "SuperPacs" with massive donations from millionaires, such as anti-gun zealot Mike Bloomberg of New York.

SB 1551 is a bill that will expand the failed background check system to virtually all gun transfers, even to a gun you give to your father-in-law or your best friend.

But while Mark Kelly was promoting this vast new invasion of your privacy, (and calling your rights "a loophole") he had some trouble responding to a question from Senator Betsy Close. She simply asked him if his wife's assailant had passed a background check. Which, of course, he had.

So Kelly attempted to divert the issue by discussing a whole host of other things that this bill does not address. But the damage was done. Clearly this bill would do nothing to stop the kinds of attacks that Kelly is exploiting.

Kelly's testimony was virtually an exact copy of the speech he recently gave in Washington state. Giffords and Kelly are on a national tour, largely funded by Bloomberg, promoting registration bills across the country.

Joining Kelly was Oregon Governor John Kitzhaber, who stated both that the bill would not stop felons from getting guns and that we needed this bill to stop felons from getting guns!

The next panel was made up of a representative of the NRA (Dan Reid), Kevin Starrett of Oregon Firearms Federation and the irrepressible, and irreplaceable, Manny Martinez, a former Cuban citizen who escaped from Fidel Castro's utopian workers' paradise and came to America.

For sheer passion, few can compare with Mr. Martinez. You owe it to yourself to listen to his testimony.

Note, the hearing started with invited testimony. OFF was NOT invited. We testified as part of panel that was determined by NRA, which graciously extended an invitation to OFF and Mr. Martinez.

Dan Reid, the NRA rep, was chided by Floyd Prozanski for not being a resident of Oregon. (Mr. Reid covers several states and lives in California.) This was ironic of course, considering the star anti-gun celebrity witness (Mark Kelly) is from Arizona.

What followed was numerous panels of speakers from both sides of the issue. As you would expect, the anti-rights people recounted endless horror stories about victims of "gun violence." (They seem totally unconcerned with people who are victims of any other kind of violence.) One woman who supported gun registration discussed how important it was for people who were suicidal to give their guns to other people. No one pointed out that under this bill that would be illegal.

But there was one uniform reality.

Not a single story involved an incident that would have been prevented if this bill was enacted. Not one.

When one firearms instructor noted (correctly) that he might well have to run a background check on anyone who took his class and used one of his guns, Senator Prozanski responded with a complete misunderstanding of an opinion from the legislature's lawyers and said this was not true. As usual, Floyd was 100% wrong.

But for pure comic relief, nothing could top Prozanski's claim that he had nothing to do with informing the anti-gun side about the hearing well in advance of the public getting this information. Floyd's ability to tell this whopper with a straight face tells you all you need to know about the man.

Floyd set the date of the hearing. He decided the time and format of the hearing. Ceasefire Oregon had all this info almost a week before the public. There is simply no other place they could have gotten it from.

One thing was clear: this bill is not about reducing crime. It's not about stopping felons. According to Sen. Prozanski, the Oregon State Police performed 263,343 background checks for firearms transfers in 2013. He said that more than 99% were approved, and less than 1% were denied. That would be 261,128 unnecessary background checks on law-abiding Oregonians in order to prevent less than 1% of transfers by licensed dealers at the cost of millions to law-abiding Oregonians.

Whatever the number of actual felons attempting a purchase (something we cannot know), virtually none faced any prosecution.

So what exactly are we doing here? All the proponents agree this won't solve the problem. It's just a "step." So what's the next "step" and what's the goal?

There is no question they are tightening the noose. We have learned from other states that registration leads to confiscation. It's not open to debate; it's happening now.

Prozanski responded to this reality by suggesting it was a "conspiracy theory." But it's not a "theory;" it's a reality.

Many supporters of liberty showed up today and gave excellent testimony. We are grateful for each of you. This dangerous legislation is an attack on everyone who believes in individual rights. For everyone who showed up, whether you got a chance to testify or not, thank you.
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Prozanski and Kitzi are both turds.
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Prozanski and Kitzi are both turds.
Don't forget to (politely) know! Written testimony is still being accepted. Make it a third-rail for Oregon politicians to dread. Even if it is only a short statement, get it in there!
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Tomorrow is a work session on Oregon bill SB-1551 by the senate judiciary committee.

Update 02/11/2014: Tomorrow the committee is scheduled to work on any potential amendments to SB 1551 (or even vote it out of committee?). You still have time to make another call or email. I don't know what the deadline was for written testimony, but you can try that as well. And be sure to pass it on to all your Oregon friends!!!! It's not over till the last day in February rolls by, and this years legislative session is close.
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