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Old 12-30-2013, 09:39 AM   #1
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Default Chingarian AK-74S

probably the most interesting AK i have planned as of yet.



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Bulgy original NOS 74 Barrel
Chinese polytech sidefolder.

only thing i need to figure out is how to shim the stock to standard ID for a 74 receiver. any suggestions appreciated
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I don't know how much you need to shim. However, shim stock (thin metal) is available, and can be easily cut to shape.

Perhaps Gorrilla(s) glue can be used to hold it in place for hole drilling and installation.
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When I saw your thread title, I thought "Chinese + Hungarian", and was expecting something more exotic
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When I saw your thread title, I thought "Chinese + Hungarian", and was expecting something more exotic
with my infamous "just girls" thread i guess i see where your getting that idea
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I don't know how much you need to shim. However, shim stock (thin metal) is available, and can be easily cut to shape.

Perhaps Gorrilla(s) glue can be used to hold it in place for hole drilling and installation.
the glueing sounds like a good idea. ony a few thousands really. i need to buy a mic but its not much, but just enough it does need shimmed
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I like it.

You could just use some shim stock for the rear.
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the glueing sounds like a good idea. ony a few thousands really. i need to buy a mic but its not much, but just enough it does need shimmed
you dont own a mic ??
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you dont own a mic ??
no. im 23, and i had mic's in the USMC. i really need to get some. probably will when i return my torque wrench i got from harbor freight for X-mas.
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I like it.

You could just use some shim stock for the rear.
thanks. i have always had an affection for the Chinese side folders.

i looked up shim stock at brownells and low and behold they have some. will definitely be ordering some with a few other things i need.
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Look for used mics, before you buy new, there might be a good deal on a more quality brand. Ebay or Craigslist

Also, if you need to buy any machine shop stuff (drills), order your shim stock from a machine shop supplier because it will probably be cheaper than brownells.
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For shims you need 1mm or two shims at .020" each. +/-. Standard US duct pipe or pipe hangar straps are .020" +/- no need to buy shim stock. Cut pieces from a hanging strap and done.
No need for glue as you rivet them in place with the trunnion to receiver.
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Please don't use glue. LOL.
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Chinese sling and bayo might be a nice touch.
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Try locating some black plastic pieces for that folder, that would complete the look.

I also like the Chinese side folder, I find it more elegant than the Russian folder.
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no. im 23, and i had mic's in the USMC. i really need to get some. probably will when i return my torque wrench i got from harbor freight for X-mas.
Harbor Freight has decent enough dial calipers for a good price. Find one of the 20% off coupons fir Harbor Freight in a magazine or a flyer and the deal gets better. When you return the torque wrench get the caliper and or tin snips for the shim cuts from the pipe hangar stock etc.
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Another option would be to source one of those 1.5mm ausa receivers.
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Another option would be to source one of those 1.5mm ausa receivers.
Then you have to cut down/narrow the front trunnion. Not that difficult but a necessity.
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I have used shim stock before on a firearm (can't remember which one) and you really do need to lock it in place before trying to install it. That is why I suggest glue. I know if I use shims again I will glue them in place first.

Otherwise, expect to get very aggravated.
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You insert and align he shims with the trunnion. C-clamp the assembly in place and drill the holes etc. Insert rivets and crush as usual.
Not saying you cannot use glue but not needed IMHO and experience.
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You insert and align he shims with the trunnion. C-clamp the assembly in place and drill the holes etc. Insert rivets and crush as usual.
Not saying you cannot use glue but not needed IMHO and experience.
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