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Old 03-02-2013, 06:54 PM   #1
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Default Norinco MAK 90 conversion (Type 56)

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Old 03-02-2013, 07:03 PM   #2
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Very, very nice.
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:03 PM   #3
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wow...so pretty it took a minute to notice it was slant cut. Outstanding! IWD furniture I assume?
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Thanks guys. Ironwood indeed. I really enjoy finishing their stuff.
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That's a great looking set of furniture there. Is there a particular dye/stain you used to get that color? Could you post up some side by side pics with the old chicom wood?
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It's so Chu-ey! Looks very nice. Beech?
Don't you just hate how the metal on these never photographs as pretty as it really is?
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Here's the original setup. I could be wrong, but it appears as though the Chicoms just used amber shellac.





This IWD furniture is birch.

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not just amber shellac, your gun is a beauty !!!!, i did a fake spiker and tried to just use amber shellac over the NOS polytech lower HG, and it still doesnt match right, still too light

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Very nice work! I went a different direction with mine.



Sitting beside A MAK-90 my buddy picked up from a old farmer last month for $200.




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CNC Warrior AK-74 style brake
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I made the stock set from curly maple; finished with a green stain, satin marine varnish, and a Hogue recoil pad.
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Nice MAK's guys!
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so what color did you use ? and then tung oil im guessing ?

let me know please, i still need to iron out my lower HG
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so what color did you use ? and then tung oil im guessing ?

let me know please, i still need to iron out my lower HG


I used amber shellac and orange transtint. No tung oil.
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Johnny, do you put anything over the shellac? How do you think varnish compares with shellac in terms of durability?
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Johnny, do you put anything over the shellac? How do you think varnish compares with shellac in terms of durability?
I don't put anything over the shellac. I have not worked with varnish, so I can't compare it to shellac. Sorry. Shellac is actually fairly durable and easy to redo if it gets messed up. I love working with it. It's what the Soviets used for decades and just looks cool.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:33 AM   #15
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Beautiful rifle, Johnny. I hope to accomplish nearly the same thing soon. I recently purchased a slant cut MAK90 but I don't think its cut the same as yours. There's not a notch in mine. Did your Ironwood stock, come in that configuration, or did you modify it to fit the receiver profile?

Wildbill, I'm a traditionalist for the most part, but there's something oddly attractive about your stock. Dimensionally, how does it compare to an RPK stock? What tools did you use to carve the stock?
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I used amber shellac and orange transtint. No tung oil.
I was going to say Transtint, but didn't know if you had a trade secret for refinishing. I've used the Transtint Vintage Maple on other projects, but think it might be a closer match than orange. If you use a little of the maple, it's an amber color. Too much and it's dark golden brown.

Your stocks look good though. I'll have to get some scrap wood to test them out, I want to do a Mak-90 conversion myself in the future.
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Karr, thank you for the compliment. I have never held a RPK, so I cannot compare the two. My MAK is actually a MISR-90 I bought for $299 years ago, so I just wanted have fun with the shape. The shape was inspired by the RPK, but I brought the top back straight to provide max cheek weld. I left it a little heavy to absorb recoil, since I don't plan on running this in a class due to the inherently weaker way that the butt stock must attach to the receiver. I did bed the stock to the gun with epoxy, and use a little black 5200 (marine grade sealant) in final assembly to provide some extra adhesion and cushion from recoil.

I used common woodworking tools shaping this stock, but I am a professional woodworker and have a full shop. The butt stock is a solid piece, but the fore grip was laminated (with epoxy) from 3 pieces in a "U" shape to get a blank the proper thickness and save time milling the barrel channel.
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What makes the stock to receiver joint inherently weak?
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On my MAK, the rear of the receiver is solid. The wood cannot slide into the the back of the gun. So only the tang screws, a bedded fit, and a little 3M 5200 for good measure hold the butt in place. I just looked at the MAK-90 slant cut stock on IWD's site, and am guessing from the pic that they are not all set up like mine.
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Thanks! My IWD stock did come in that configuration.


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Beautiful rifle, Johnny. I hope to accomplish nearly the same thing soon. I recently purchased a slant cut MAK90 but I don't think its cut the same as yours. There's not a notch in mine. Did your Ironwood stock, come in that configuration, or did you modify it to fit the receiver profile?

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not just amber shellac, your gun is a beauty !!!!, i did a fake spiker and tried to just use amber shellac over the NOS polytech lower HG, and it still doesnt match right, still too light

I did something similar to my re-fanged MAK.





Though for the life of me I can't remember what shade of Minwax poly/stain mix I used.
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I did something similar to my re-fanged MAK.





Though for the life of me I can't remember what shade of Minwax poly/stain mix I used.
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Super job on the furniture, If a guy has bought this furniture can he ship it to you for finishing?
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Super job on the furniture, If a guy has bought this furniture can he ship it to you for finishing?
Thank you. Absolutely. For anyone who's interested, please free to email me for the details.
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My MAK90 was made for an underfolder...will I still be able to put a fixed stock on it?

It is a slant/angle cut receiver and I already know ironwood designs would be my best option however I'm not sure if they make a stock set for my type of receiver.
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Yes, IWD has stocksets for the angle cut receivers, whether they're milled or stamped. If you look at the OPs rifle, his has the angle cut receiver.
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stamped..my receiver is a little different than his.
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Have you thought of returning to its underfolder roots?
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No...prefer a fixed stock
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Not the best picture but I put a European front sight from a milled kit (fit perfect) and the gas block was cut in half for training so I cut the loop off and welded it on. The front of the barrel was .500" roughly so I threaded it 1/2 x 28 and put a US slant brake. Ironwood stock and it does take a bayonet on the front. Can't tell it from a older one.
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Ironwood comes through again, very nice.
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Anyone know of a good gunsmith to de-ban the Mak-90?

Not worried about the furniture and I'll take care of it myself.
I was actually thinking about getting rid of my MAK but took her to the range and zero'D.
I forgot how accurate they are!

Anyway, I want it to be able to have a cleaning rod, threaded muzzle, and maybe a bayonet lug.
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Have you looked in the gunsmithing section? There's a sticky with a list of builders located therein.
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Anyone know of a good gunsmith to de-ban the Mak-90?


Anyway, I want it to be able to have a cleaning rod, threaded muzzle, and maybe a bayonet lug.
where do you live ?

ken kubin in Michigan is awesome...and VERY reasonable prices

http://www.globalmilitarygunsmithing.com/id3.html
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Mine is a slant cut as well, I went with the laminated Ironwood set. I love this rifle



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