91/30 Finn 1942 question

scaldwellk · 07-21-2006, 09:55 PM

I guy I know has a nice Finn made 91/30 forsale. The date on it is 1942. Does anyone here know the value of one of these rifles?

allesennogwat · 07-21-2006, 10:26 PM

I son't what they are worth.I know some have original Soviet barrels,some have new replacement barrels and some have relined barrels.

Maybe this will help to make sure it is Fninish issue.

http://mosinnagant.net/finland/FinlandsM9130Rifle.asp

http://mosinnagant.net/finland/default.asp

http://www.surplusrifle.com/finnishmosin/index.asp

http://mosinnagant.net/

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinMarks02.htm

http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpo...616/fin39.html

http://www.building-tux.com/dsmjd/tech/m1891m-n.htm

http://www.winterwar.com/Weapons/Fin.../FinRifles.htm

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinMarks.htm

scaldwellk · 07-22-2006, 07:24 AM

Thanks for those great links. I could not find a value on the rifle though.
Anyone have an idea?

Nobby · 08-03-2006, 04:40 AM

As far as I know, the Finns didn't build their own M91/30s until '43 (they built M91s, which are an entirely different critter, before that time). If it is dated 1942 then what you may be looking at could either be a Russian 91/30 that the Finns captured, in this case it should bear either the mark of the Tula or Izhevsk arsenal (arrow in star or arrow in triangle respectively) and have an 'SA' stamp in a box somewhere on it. If not one of those, it may well be a Finn manufactured M91. What is the rear sight like and what do the markings on the barrel shank look like? If the rear sight base is smooth and the leaf is straight and metered our to '20' (2000 meters) and it bears Tula or Izhevsk markings on the barrel shank then it is a Russian rifle the Finns captured, if the rear sight base has what looks like 'saw tooths' and the leaf is curved slightly and has the range markings on the sight base (usually out to about 800 meters) and the Tula or Izhevsk marks don't appear then you most likely have a Finn manufactured M91. Hope that helps some.

chapaev · 08-03-2006, 04:25 PM

is it an m39?

scaldwellk · 08-03-2006, 09:22 PM

Here it is. The mark is the center one.
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinID.htm#1940

chapaev · 08-03-2006, 09:52 PM

I have a slightly different one (http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinID.htm#1) and they range in price from about 139 to 399 or so.. very fine rifles

matt · 08-14-2006, 02:25 PM

Well,the first 91 Mosin rifle the Finns obtained, captured,
confiscated was the modl 91, The later Mosins were the
1.5-2" shorter 91/30 rifles. Known by some as the Dragoon Mosins. The Finns made none of the Mosins, The Germans supplied them some Gewehr and CZ24 Bruno Mausers.
The 7.62x 54R I.D. site on AK47, is great! You can get the length, there.

scaldwellk · 08-14-2006, 05:39 PM

Do you think it would be worth $100.00?

matt · 08-15-2006, 02:30 PM

....that I have on my website-mostly Finnish military
captured 91/30s and one classical Tikka barrelled Mdl
91,refit by the Finn arsenal Woodpecker Rapids. Ihink all SA,marked
Finns are sighted in at- 700 metes by the Finns. Have one standard Sovo
An 03 C&R will work with any of these.
You can see @www.helsinkiarms.com
All well maintained!You'll see some WW2 carbines on this siite.
Niw price on these is @ $70.ea +pstg.
My email is [email]crslykowski@comcase.net[/email
The website also has some Turmanistan,(not IMI) uzi
modl B clones. Very sturdy weapons. Need FFL for the uzi/clone!

07-22-2006, 07:24 AM	#3
scaldwellk Commie's Suck AKaholic #: 2184 Join Date: May 2004 Location: SouthCentral PA Posts: 2,724	Thanks for those great links. I could not find a value on the rifle though. Anyone have an idea? __________________ Strange thing with being a socialist is that the more the state tries to provide a heven the more of a hell the people have to live in. http://jpfo.org/

08-03-2006, 04:25 PM	#5
chapaev Member Silver Contributor AKaholic #: 4505 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 182	is it an m39? Last edited by chapaev; 08-03-2006 at 04:31 PM.

08-03-2006, 09:22 PM	#6
scaldwellk Commie's Suck AKaholic #: 2184 Join Date: May 2004 Location: SouthCentral PA Posts: 2,724	Here it is. The mark is the center one. http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinID.htm#1940 __________________ Strange thing with being a socialist is that the more the state tries to provide a heven the more of a hell the people have to live in. http://jpfo.org/

08-14-2006, 02:25 PM	#8
matt Member AKaholic #: 928 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: South Bend ,Indiana Posts: 147	Well,the first 91 Mosin rifle the Finns obtained, captured, confiscated was the modl 91, The later Mosins were the 1.5-2" shorter 91/30 rifles. Known by some as the Dragoon Mosins. The Finns made none of the Mosins, The Germans supplied them some Gewehr and CZ24 Bruno Mausers. The 7.62x 54R I.D. site on AK47, is great! You can get the length, there. Last edited by matt; 08-14-2006 at 02:34 PM.

08-14-2006, 05:39 PM	#9
scaldwellk Commie's Suck AKaholic #: 2184 Join Date: May 2004 Location: SouthCentral PA Posts: 2,724	Do you think it would be worth $100.00? __________________ Strange thing with being a socialist is that the more the state tries to provide a heven the more of a hell the people have to live in. http://jpfo.org/

07-21-2006, 09:55 PM	#1
scaldwellk Commie's Suck AKaholic #: 2184 Join Date: May 2004 Location: SouthCentral PA Posts: 2,724	91/30 Finn 1942 question I guy I know has a nice Finn made 91/30 forsale. The date on it is 1942. Does anyone here know the value of one of these rifles? __________________ Strange thing with being a socialist is that the more the state tries to provide a heven the more of a hell the people have to live in. http://jpfo.org/

07-21-2006, 10:26 PM	#2
allesennogwat Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 3738 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 32,200	I son't what they are worth.I know some have original Soviet barrels,some have new replacement barrels and some have relined barrels. Maybe this will help to make sure it is Fninish issue. http://mosinnagant.net/finland/FinlandsM9130Rifle.asp http://mosinnagant.net/finland/default.asp http://www.surplusrifle.com/finnishmosin/index.asp http://mosinnagant.net/ http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinMarks02.htm http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpo...616/fin39.html http://www.building-tux.com/dsmjd/tech/m1891m-n.htm http://www.winterwar.com/Weapons/Fin.../FinRifles.htm http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinMarks.htm

08-03-2006, 04:40 AM	#4
Nobby Member AKaholic #: 2103 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 76	As far as I know, the Finns didn't build their own M91/30s until '43 (they built M91s, which are an entirely different critter, before that time). If it is dated 1942 then what you may be looking at could either be a Russian 91/30 that the Finns captured, in this case it should bear either the mark of the Tula or Izhevsk arsenal (arrow in star or arrow in triangle respectively) and have an 'SA' stamp in a box somewhere on it. If not one of those, it may well be a Finn manufactured M91. What is the rear sight like and what do the markings on the barrel shank look like? If the rear sight base is smooth and the leaf is straight and metered our to '20' (2000 meters) and it bears Tula or Izhevsk markings on the barrel shank then it is a Russian rifle the Finns captured, if the rear sight base has what looks like 'saw tooths' and the leaf is curved slightly and has the range markings on the sight base (usually out to about 800 meters) and the Tula or Izhevsk marks don't appear then you most likely have a Finn manufactured M91. Hope that helps some.

08-03-2006, 09:52 PM	#7
chapaev Member Silver Contributor AKaholic #: 4505 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 182	I have a slightly different one (http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinID.htm#1) and they range in price from about 139 to 399 or so.. very fine rifles

08-15-2006, 02:30 PM	#10
matt Member AKaholic #: 928 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: South Bend ,Indiana Posts: 147	Forgot to Mention he Mosin rifles.... ....that I have on my website-mostly Finnish military captured 91/30s and one classical Tikka barrelled Mdl 91,refit by the Finn arsenal Woodpecker Rapids. Ihink all SA,marked Finns are sighted in at- 700 metes by the Finns. Have one standard Sovo An 03 C&R will work with any of these. You can see @www.helsinkiarms.com All well maintained!You'll see some WW2 carbines on this siite. Niw price on these is @ $70.ea +pstg. My email is [email]crslykowski@comcase.net[/email The website also has some Turmanistan,(not IMI) uzi modl B clones. Very sturdy weapons. Need FFL for the uzi/clone! Last edited by matt; 09-03-2006 at 04:22 PM.

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