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Old 02-17-2013, 01:08 AM   #1
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Default Beryl Folding Stock for Polish Tantal

Robertrtg.com has been sold out for a long time. Anyone know of any other place to find one? They look like a good alternative to the wire stock.
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Old 02-17-2013, 03:43 AM   #2
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GB is about the only place Ive seen them regularly since RTG ran out.
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I have a Beryl folder stock. They have an awesome folding mechanism, they're strong, and they're comfy. But the cheek weld still sucks. I sent mine out to get a custom cheek riser.

IOW, I'd keep your Tantal stock and just get the AMD65tech cheek riser. I prefer my AMD-65's crappy wired stock with that cheek riser over the Beryl.
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THE Beryl stock is a great stock, but I find it a little short.
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Gunbroker till reg suppliers get more.

I love mine as well, and really want another. A riser would be a good addition. Maybe an ACE add on riser could be made to work with them.
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It is a bit short for me as well, but I can work with it as is.
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I have a Beryl folder stock. They have an awesome folding mechanism, they're strong, and they're comfy. But the cheek weld still sucks. I sent mine out to get a custom cheek riser.

IOW, I'd keep your Tantal stock and just get the AMD65tech cheek riser. I prefer my AMD-65's crappy wired stock with that cheek riser over the Beryl.
Hey, thanks man. Think I will give that a try! I'd like to keep the Tantal as a side folder but obviously wanted a cheek weld for better shooting. BTW, I used to live in Gburg and went to MC "Harvard on the Pike" lol
I live in sunny Florida now.
Thanks again for the suggestion.
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Gunbroker till reg suppliers get more.

I love mine as well, and really want another. A riser would be a good addition. Maybe an ACE add on riser could be made to work with them.
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It is a bit short for me as well, but I can work with it as is.
Interesting. Hey, thanks for the link, man.
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This is an option as well
http://www.bonesteelarms.com/Ak-Saig...ock-AKFSGL.htm
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Thanks. Will this one fit the Tantal specifically? Just want to make sure. This one does look good.
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Thanks. Will this one fit the Tantal specifically? Just want to make sure. This one does look good.
There is no "specific" stock style for any standard fixed stock stamped AKM/AK74/Saiga.

The receivers are the same dimensions, internally.

The AK was designed to be intercompatible with its siblings from other countries.


Long story short, the Bonesteel will fit your Tantal.
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There is no "specific" stock style for any standard fixed stock stamped AKM/AK74/Saiga.

The receivers are the same dimensions, internally.

The AK was designed to be intercompatible with its siblings from other countries.


Long story short, the Bonesteel will fit your Tantal.
Thanks. Just wanted to make sure as there are rollpins and pistol grip screwbase holding my Tantal wire stock in place unlike any other of my AKs. Just didn't want anymore surprises after parting with some $. Appreciate the help and info.
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Thanks. Just wanted to make sure as there are rollpins and pistol grip screwbase holding my Tantal wire stock in place unlike any other of my AKs. Just didn't want anymore surprises after parting with some $. Appreciate the help and info.
The commies went crazy in the name of "durability".

Lots of the fixtures & features you see on the AK will only come into use after the owner's been vaporized along with most of the gun.
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Hey, thanks man. Think I will give that a try! I'd like to keep the Tantal as a side folder but obviously wanted a cheek weld for better shooting.
Yeah, it's amazing how many people are perfectly content to run around with side and under folders that offer little to no head support for aiming. Of course, given the number of people I see trying to use their folding stock rifles with the stocks folded, well, maybe I shouldn't be so surprised.

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RTG has beryl stocks.... back in-stock
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RTG has beryl stocks.... back in-stock
Thanks man!
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Do you have to buy the bracket for these stocks or will they work without them?

http://www.robertrtg.com/berylfolderbracket.html
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Do you have to buy the bracket for these stocks or will they work without them?

http://www.robertrtg.com/berylfolderbracket.html
They will work fine without them.

Remember, the commies built their guns to last through at least 9 or 10 soldiers.
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Thanks Nalioth, but question, if so, what is the bracket for? I've seen these on other folding stocks but why can the Beryl be used with or without it? What's the difference?

Thanks, I appreciate your input.
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Thanks Nalioth, but question, if so, what is the bracket for? I've seen these on other folding stocks but why can the Beryl be used with or without it? What's the difference?
The bracket is designed to be used so when the soldier carrying the rifle gets blasted into fragments, the rifle has more of a chance to be recovered in one piece.


The commies got plumb stupid in their quest for "durable" weapons . . .

If you're a civilian, and don't plan on using the rifle so's you'd tear the two bolts out of the rear block, or tear the rear block free of the receiver, etc, etc, etc, you'll be fine without the bracket.
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Okay, thank you.
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Actually, the last several nights, i've been practicing shouldering and dry firing the Tantal and realizing there actually is a cheek weld with the wire stock. (actually, the side of your lower jaw) Just can't be afraid to use it because the Tantal is such a light recoiling rifle.
Unlike the AMD-65, it's wire stock provides absolutely no contact with the cheek or lower jaw. It just lets you hanging out in space. In that case, i think the AMD-65 cheek riser or something comparable is essential.
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Hmmmm.... I guess that all depends on how big your chin is. I get a chin weld with mine just fine. Love the AMD folder the best of all I've tried thus far. I'm getting a Beryl though.
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Wish I had the funds I would pick one up, they just had to get them in stock in the middle of my move.
As far as folders for me it goes russian polymer, beryl and then the triangle. Hopefully they have one next month
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Hmmmm.... I guess that all depends on how big your chin is. I get a chin weld with mine just fine. Love the AMD folder the best of all I've tried thus far. I'm getting a Beryl though.
Chin weld. lol You just coined the term.
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Wish I had the funds I would pick one up, they just had to get them in stock in the middle of my move.
As far as folders for me it goes russian polymer, beryl and then the triangle. Hopefully they have one next month
Now, i'm having second thoughts. The Tantal looks badass in it's natural form with a sweet plum Izzy mag in.
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Now, i'm having second thoughts. The Tantal looks badass in it's natural form with a sweet plum Izzy mag in.
TADA! My thoughts exactly.
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Now, i'm having second thoughts. The Tantal looks badass in it's natural form with a sweet plum Izzy mag in.
I would still buy the beryl, I think it functions better. If you buy it and change your mind about it I will buy it from you
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I saw them on GB as well, about 2 weeks ago...
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Not try to high jack, but Ive heard some saying that these do not fit on Saiga or Arsenal SGL rifles (something to do w/ the spring I think) with out modifying or cutting on the rifle is this true? Have any of you tried this and do they fit/function with out doing anything to the rifle. Any pics or info on them being used on the sgl line of rifles would be great.

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Not try to high jack, but Ive heard some saying that these do not fit on Saiga or Arsenal SGL rifles (something to do w/ the spring I think) with out modifying or cutting on the rifle is this true? Have any of you tried this and do they fit/function with out doing anything to the rifle. Any pics or info on them being used on the sgl line of rifles would be great.

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They should work with standard rear trunnions, if I am not mistaken
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Not try to high jack, but Ive heard some saying that these do not fit on Saiga or Arsenal SGL rifles (something to do w/ the spring I think) with out modifying or cutting on the rifle is this true? Have any of you tried this and do they fit/function with out doing anything to the rifle. Any pics or info on them being used on the sgl line of rifles would be great.

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No AK parts fit a factory Saiga.

After the Saiga is deneutered (aka "converted"), all AK parts fit.

Whoever told you they didn't fit an SGL (aka "a converted Saiga") is full of bull.
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No AK parts fit a factory Saiga.

After the Saiga is deneutered (aka "converted"), all AK parts fit.

Whoever told you they didn't fit an SGL (aka "a converted Saiga") is full of bull.
I actually ended up asking the ? in the gunsmithing section (figured it would get more responses) From what I understand they will fit but you may have to file a shallow notch in the receiver for the spring.

one of he more detailed replies:

"It is a very close/tight fit on the right side of the stock where the spring tail and the pivot are located. Some required relieving the receicer at the right vertical on the rear area." AKBLUE

thank you for your responses
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I actually ended up asking the ? in the gunsmithing section (figured it would get more responses) From what I understand they will fit but you may have to file a shallow notch in the receiver for the spring.

one of he more detailed replies:

"It is a very close/tight fit on the right side of the stock where the spring tail and the pivot are located. Some required relieving the receicer at the right vertical on the rear area." AKBLUE

thank you for your responses
First I've heard of that.

These stock assemblies were designed to fit any standard stamped AKM/AK74/AK10x receiver.

IOW, "hand fitting" is not in the spec sheet.
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Had to relieve my receiver to use the Beryl stock.

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The actual Polish issue Beryl with the side folder is notched on the right side in a similar fashion!
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