Afghanistan

timk762 · 07-15-2006, 04:39 PM

From the way I understad it, Russia is supplying our GOVT with a contract order of7.62x39 to the tune of 78 million rounds. (hece the shortage of ammo here)

Our GoVT figures that in 2008 when the democrats take power, they will pull our troops out of A-stan. Our current GOVT is considering the possibility of a the GOVT being overthrown in A-Stan and want to have them supplied well prior to 2008.

So hang on to what you got, you never know who may come knocking.

GAS GAS GAS

AKer · 07-15-2006, 05:20 PM

if that were you and me buying that ammo, ited be in the 10's of millions of dollars, holy shit, i say they distribute that ammo among us along with more AK's

AKer · 07-15-2006, 05:22 PM

also, if hitlery gets nominated, republicans will win, so either way we win, everybody(except for the mentally ill liberals themselves) can see through the liberal bullshit.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art..._will_win.html

that faggot thinks she will win, lol.

justashooter · 07-18-2006, 12:52 AM

if hitlery gets nominated, pigs will fly.

now if we give illegal aliens the right to vote, and also give it to the germans, and the french, and the chinese...

robdog · 07-18-2006, 10:21 AM

Keep an eye on the Dem from NC

allesennogwat · 07-18-2006, 02:25 PM

Illicit Ammunition Trade Fuels Conflicts

From Africa to Iraq to Afghanistan, the illicit ammunition trade is fueling conflicts around the world, according to a new report by Oxfam. The British-based development organization blames the proliferation of bullets in the world’s poorest countries on lax international regulations and controls.

PRAGUE, June 15, 2006 (RFE/RL) -- The illicit trade in ammunition and bullets is claiming thousands of lives around the world every year.

In a report released today, British development organization Oxfam is urging the international community to agree to tougher rules on the ammunition trade. The report, "Ammunition: The Fuel Of Conflict," comes ahead of a UN conference on the small-arms trade, which begins in New York on June 26.

33 Million Bullets A Day

“Enormous amounts of bullets are produced every day," Oxfam’s conflict manager, Anna MacDonald, tells RFE/RL. "Globally, 33 million bullets are produced every day around the world. And what we’re saying is there need to be stronger controls on the sale and transfer of these bullets to ensure that they don’t find their way into the wrong hands, and thus ensure a worsening in conflict zones and more lives being lost in some of the world’s poorest countries.”

Oxfam's report outlines how illicit ammunition has flooded war-torn countries like Iraq and Afghanistan as well as Somalia, Sierra Leone, and Liberia in the last five years.

It said companies in at least 76 countries manufacture ammunition, and the number is growing. Kenya and Turkey have both become producers in the last 10 years. Among the top producers, the report lists Romania, Russia, China, Egypt, Brazil, Bulgaria, and Israel.

MacDonald says a new control regime would go a long way toward reducing the amount of ammunition flowing around the world.

No Uniform Regulatory System

“At the moment what we have [are] different levels of national controls that vary enormously between countries and between regions," MacDonald says. "So an unscrupulous government or an unscrupulous arms dealer or bullet dealer can easily find their way around the legislation. And that’s how so much ammunition is ending up in places that are actually embargoed to receive ammunition at the moment. Because people are finding it very easy to find their way around lax controls that are currently in place.”

While no system of regulation can totally prevent smuggling, MacDonald is convinced that it would drastically reduce it and save many lives.

When The Guns Fell Silent

In Liberia, thousands have been killed in a civil war that only recently has begun to subside. MacDonald says that in the summer of 2003, fighting actually had to stop for several days because ammunition supplies had run dry. That mean, for a brief moment, lives were not being lost.

“Unfortunately, new supplies did arrive and they began attacking again, and the conflict escalated," she says. "But it did show quite starkly -- in that window that appeared in the summer when there was a lack of ammunition -- that [ammunition] was actually fueling the conflict, and that without it, the conflict was decreasing.”

And in researching the Baghdad black market in May, Oxfam says it found that new, high-quality ammunition was widely available in the Iraqi capital. That contrasts to mainly old Iraqi stocks that existed just after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

“There’s two likely explanations," MacDonald says. "Either it’s been smuggled in from neighboring countries, or it’s leaked out from existing coalition or Iraqi forces’ supplies. Either way, that means that weak controls have meant that bullets have ended up in the hands of those who’ve used them to increase the number of lives that are being lost.”

Stockpiles In Eastern Europe

In compiling details of the old ammunition stockpiles in Eastern Europe, Oxfam found that Ukraine alone is estimated to have about 2.5 million tons of such stocks, including several hundred million rounds of small-arms ammunition.

Unscrupulous brokers will be eager to get their hands on these bullets and sell them to war zones. Profit margins for such sales can be over 500 percent.

MacDonald concludes that tough international rules could help stop the "merchants of death" -- and save thousands of lives.

beer jager · 07-18-2006, 04:06 PM

who needs bullets when I got my axe in my holster.

glock4me · 07-18-2006, 04:12 PM

Fuk all the Alqaedacrats and the New York Times , them byatches need to be locked up with some 300 pound mozzys wif blue balls

Mandaree36 · 07-18-2006, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glock4me

Fuk all the Alqaedacrats and the New York Times , them byatches need to be locked up with some 300 pound mozzys wif blue balls

Hmmmm ever notice how gangsta' talk gives the appearance of someone too stupid too speak clearly. Well here's a tip - written gangsta is worse...

glock4me · 07-18-2006, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandaree36

Hmmmm ever notice how gangsta' talk gives the appearance of someone too stupid too speak clearly. Well here's a tip - written gangsta is worse...

Why you picking on me ? , i am a nice guy and don't make fun of anybody.

44rdv4rk · 07-18-2006, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glock4me

Why you picking on me ? , i am a nice guy and don't make fun of anybody.

no, you're just one of those douchebags that thinks anyone that isn't in your political party is an al-qaida sympathizer... also known as an ignorant p.o.s.

glock4me · 07-18-2006, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 44rdv4rk

no, you're just one of those douchebags that thinks anyone that isn't in your political party is an al-qaida sympathizer... also known as an ignorant p.o.s.

AlqaiedaCrats are too spisticated for me

44rdv4rk · 07-18-2006, 05:31 PM

'parently.

edit to clarify: i'm actually a republican with libertarian leanings, but the idea of this nation as a one-party nation scares the hell out of me.

i'd go on to explain why, but it'd probably be to spisticated fer ya.

glock4me · 07-19-2006, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 44rdv4rk

'parently.

edit to clarify: i'm actually a republican with libertarian leanings, but the idea of this nation as a one-party nation scares the hell out of me.

i'd go on to explain why, but it'd probably be to spisticated fer ya.

It must be comforting to know as a AlqaiedaCrat gun owner that when it comes to the 2nd. Amend. your communist party gives you "the right to choose" = turn it over or go to prison.

CAMPYBOB · 07-19-2006, 06:19 AM

...according to a new report by Oxfam.

not a shred of truth to follow if oxfam wrote that nonsense.

"illegal" trade in ammunition? what is illegal about buying and selling ammunition?

besides, the ammunitionstore.com had tons of x39 for sale at bulletfest last weekend.

44rdv4rk · 07-19-2006, 09:24 AM

several new members here are the embodiment of the argument for "the right to choose" :-/

TheOtherChris · 07-19-2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 44rdv4rk

several new members here are the embodiment of the argument for "the right to choose" :-/

Often retroactively!

deerollman · 07-19-2006, 10:24 AM

how the hell do the english cut their food? how do they determine which knives are legal?

44rdv4rk · 07-19-2006, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by deerollman

how the hell do the english cut their food? how do they determine which knives are legal?

lol, really!!! and its not like the english can just use their teeth.

allesennogwat · 07-19-2006, 10:50 PM

07-15-2006, 04:39 PM	#1
timk762 Member AKaholic #: 5716 Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 92	Afghanistan From the way I understad it, Russia is supplying our GOVT with a contract order of7.62x39 to the tune of 78 million rounds. (hece the shortage of ammo here) Our GoVT figures that in 2008 when the democrats take power, they will pull our troops out of A-stan. Our current GOVT is considering the possibility of a the GOVT being overthrown in A-Stan and want to have them supplied well prior to 2008. So hang on to what you got, you never know who may come knocking. GAS GAS GAS

07-15-2006, 05:22 PM	#3
AKer Banned (Temp) AKaholic #: 5994 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 506	also, if hitlery gets nominated, republicans will win, so either way we win, everybody(except for the mentally ill liberals themselves) can see through the liberal bullshit. http://www.associatedcontent.com/art..._will_win.html that faggot thinks she will win, lol. Last edited by AKer; 07-15-2006 at 05:28 PM.

07-18-2006, 12:52 AM	#4
justashooter Member AKaholic #: 117 Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 438	if hitlery gets nominated, pigs will fly. now if we give illegal aliens the right to vote, and also give it to the germans, and the french, and the chinese... __________________ "That's what will happen if we are fighting with just our fists. Give each of us weapons, and you can imagine what that room will look like when were done with each other." http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ i"ll live to see it, so i don't need to imagine.

07-18-2006, 10:21 AM	#5
robdog Senior Member AKaholic #: 5069 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NC Posts: 900	Keep an eye on the Dem from NC __________________ Some people are like Slinkies. Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

07-18-2006, 05:31 PM	#13
44rdv4rk Veteran Member AKaholic #: 5310 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,986	'parently. edit to clarify: i'm actually a republican with libertarian leanings, but the idea of this nation as a one-party nation scares the hell out of me. i'd go on to explain why, but it'd probably be to spisticated fer ya. Last edited by 44rdv4rk; 07-18-2006 at 05:53 PM.

07-15-2006, 05:20 PM	#2
AKer Banned (Temp) AKaholic #: 5994 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 506	if that were you and me buying that ammo, ited be in the 10's of millions of dollars, holy shit, i say they distribute that ammo among us along with more AK's

07-18-2006, 02:25 PM	#6
allesennogwat Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 3738 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 32,200	Illicit Ammunition Trade Fuels Conflicts From Africa to Iraq to Afghanistan, the illicit ammunition trade is fueling conflicts around the world, according to a new report by Oxfam. The British-based development organization blames the proliferation of bullets in the world’s poorest countries on lax international regulations and controls. PRAGUE, June 15, 2006 (RFE/RL) -- The illicit trade in ammunition and bullets is claiming thousands of lives around the world every year. In a report released today, British development organization Oxfam is urging the international community to agree to tougher rules on the ammunition trade. The report, "Ammunition: The Fuel Of Conflict," comes ahead of a UN conference on the small-arms trade, which begins in New York on June 26. 33 Million Bullets A Day “Enormous amounts of bullets are produced every day," Oxfam’s conflict manager, Anna MacDonald, tells RFE/RL. "Globally, 33 million bullets are produced every day around the world. And what we’re saying is there need to be stronger controls on the sale and transfer of these bullets to ensure that they don’t find their way into the wrong hands, and thus ensure a worsening in conflict zones and more lives being lost in some of the world’s poorest countries.” Oxfam's report outlines how illicit ammunition has flooded war-torn countries like Iraq and Afghanistan as well as Somalia, Sierra Leone, and Liberia in the last five years. It said companies in at least 76 countries manufacture ammunition, and the number is growing. Kenya and Turkey have both become producers in the last 10 years. Among the top producers, the report lists Romania, Russia, China, Egypt, Brazil, Bulgaria, and Israel. MacDonald says a new control regime would go a long way toward reducing the amount of ammunition flowing around the world. No Uniform Regulatory System “At the moment what we have [are] different levels of national controls that vary enormously between countries and between regions," MacDonald says. "So an unscrupulous government or an unscrupulous arms dealer or bullet dealer can easily find their way around the legislation. And that’s how so much ammunition is ending up in places that are actually embargoed to receive ammunition at the moment. Because people are finding it very easy to find their way around lax controls that are currently in place.” While no system of regulation can totally prevent smuggling, MacDonald is convinced that it would drastically reduce it and save many lives. When The Guns Fell Silent In Liberia, thousands have been killed in a civil war that only recently has begun to subside. MacDonald says that in the summer of 2003, fighting actually had to stop for several days because ammunition supplies had run dry. That mean, for a brief moment, lives were not being lost. “Unfortunately, new supplies did arrive and they began attacking again, and the conflict escalated," she says. "But it did show quite starkly -- in that window that appeared in the summer when there was a lack of ammunition -- that [ammunition] was actually fueling the conflict, and that without it, the conflict was decreasing.” And in researching the Baghdad black market in May, Oxfam says it found that new, high-quality ammunition was widely available in the Iraqi capital. That contrasts to mainly old Iraqi stocks that existed just after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion. “There’s two likely explanations," MacDonald says. "Either it’s been smuggled in from neighboring countries, or it’s leaked out from existing coalition or Iraqi forces’ supplies. Either way, that means that weak controls have meant that bullets have ended up in the hands of those who’ve used them to increase the number of lives that are being lost.” Stockpiles In Eastern Europe In compiling details of the old ammunition stockpiles in Eastern Europe, Oxfam found that Ukraine alone is estimated to have about 2.5 million tons of such stocks, including several hundred million rounds of small-arms ammunition. Unscrupulous brokers will be eager to get their hands on these bullets and sell them to war zones. Profit margins for such sales can be over 500 percent. MacDonald concludes that tough international rules could help stop the "merchants of death" -- and save thousands of lives.

07-18-2006, 04:06 PM	#7
beer jager Banned AKaholic #: 1535 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: germany Posts: 316	who needs bullets when I got my axe in my holster.

07-18-2006, 04:12 PM	#8
glock4me Yo dogg, I need to grow up Yo AKaholic #: 6228 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Windy City Posts: 174	Fuk all the Alqaedacrats and the New York Times , them byatches need to be locked up with some 300 pound mozzys wif blue balls

07-19-2006, 06:19 AM	#15
CAMPYBOB Moderator AKaholic #: 15 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: minerva, ohio Posts: 3,977	...according to a new report by Oxfam. not a shred of truth to follow if oxfam wrote that nonsense. "illegal" trade in ammunition? what is illegal about buying and selling ammunition? besides, the ammunitionstore.com had tons of x39 for sale at bulletfest last weekend.

07-19-2006, 09:24 AM	#16
44rdv4rk Veteran Member AKaholic #: 5310 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,986	several new members here are the embodiment of the argument for "the right to choose" :-/

07-19-2006, 10:24 AM	#18
deerollman Senior Member AKaholic #: 2864 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 562	how the hell do the english cut their food? how do they determine which knives are legal? __________________ Now this really pisses me off to no end!

07-19-2006, 10:50 PM	#20
allesennogwat Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 3738 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 32,200

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