Stainless, Aluminum, Titanium Gas tube

themonk · 03-26-2012, 09:53 AM

Anyone know of a Stainless, Aluminum, or Titanium Gas tube. This seems like such an easy fix for corrosive ammo but I cant seem to find any. My google fu may be weak with this one.

Enraged Gecko · 03-26-2012, 11:11 AM

Titanium is ridiculously expensive and aluminum fatigues rapidly under pressure. Aluminum alloys that don't suffer the structural issues of pure aluminum are also expensive.

AKRAGE · 03-26-2012, 11:23 AM

get a chrome lined gas tube

AKBLUE · 03-26-2012, 12:20 PM

A brush and solvent will fix that. Gas tubes are $15 $20 replacement items if you are too lazy for the cleaning and they eventually wear through after a few years etc,.,.

HWI · 03-26-2012, 07:20 PM

Kind of pointless to get a fancy gas tube to avoid corrosion if you aren't also getting a gas block of the same material.

An easy fix for corrosive ammo is spraying down the gas tube, gas block, and barrel with water after you are done shooting. The water will dissolve the corrosive salts.

themonk · 04-05-2012, 08:42 AM

Thanks guys.

FYI - Titanium is not ridiculously expensive. I own a lot of titanium gear. I would have no issue paying $50 for a Titanium gas tube as it lightens the gun resists corrosion and would last forever.

I get cleaning and how to do it, I clean after every outing. The Gas tube is the only place I will ever get rust if I slack and its humid. This seems like an easy fix.

AKBLUE · 04-05-2012, 09:10 AM

I hear you., I'm not a saavy person on how they form or contour Titanium but I suspect that a gas tube is pretty complex in terms of ferrules, flutes etc.,.
Also not sure on durability vs steel in terms of abrasion resistance and overall strength. A gas tube is hardedned steel and pretty rough.
AFAIK Titanium is stronger than aluminum but only comparable to mild steel in most available forms.

Trueno · 04-05-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by themonk

FYI - Titanium is not ridiculously expensive. I own a lot of titanium gear. I would have no issue paying $50 for a Titanium gas tube as it lightens the gun resists corrosion and would last forever.

$50 huh?

Haven't priced any of the already available aftermarket gas tubes have you

themonk · 04-05-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Trueno

$50 huh?

Haven't priced any of the already available aftermarket gas tubes have you

I have, and they are all steel that rust very easily with corrosive ammo hence the purpose of this thread.

Spend the money up front and then you don't need to spend it again.

Trueno · 04-05-2012, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themonk

I have, and they are all steel that rust very easily with corrosive ammo hence the purpose of this thread.

Spend the money up front and then you don't need to spend it again.

UltiMAK ring a bell?
Maybe you should drop them a line and set 'em straight.

t

themonk · 04-05-2012, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trueno

UltiMAK ring a bell?
Maybe you should drop them a line and set 'em straight.

t

Yea, I'm with ya - its all aluminum. Wish they just made the tube without the rail. I think in the end this is the answer - http://www.onesourcetactical.com/tex...x#.T35C9NVTN3s

Stainless tube:

Sneakers1971 · 04-05-2012, 11:10 PM

Maybe think a little more outside the box.
Ceramic coatings. This is not the stuff in granny's china closet. Highly abrasion resistant, temps to 2000°, will not chip, corrosian rsistant, greatly dissapates heat, and cools off faster.
It's not real exspensive, might cost $50 for a gas tube and if it's new they stand behind it!
It works on engine headers very well, my motorcycle headers cool off to the touch in 5 min.
It comes in some colors including black.
P.S. not all ceramic coatings are equal, this company is tried and true. Just never tried it on a gas tube!
http://www.jet-hot.com/

themonk · 04-06-2012, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sneakers1971

Maybe think a little more outside the box.
Ceramic coatings. This is not the stuff in granny's china closet. Highly abrasion resistant, temps to 2000°, will not chip, corrosian rsistant, greatly dissapates heat, and cools off faster.
It's not real exspensive, might cost $50 for a gas tube and if it's new they stand behind it!
It works on engine headers very well, my motorcycle headers cool off to the touch in 5 min.
It comes in some colors including black.
P.S. not all ceramic coatings are equal, this company is tried and true. Just never tried it on a gas tube!
http://www.jet-hot.com/

Wow, that's awesome. I will call them today and see if they will even do it. Thanks!

Disburse-Now · 04-06-2012, 05:42 AM

Sneakers1971 - Thanks for the heads up! If one has the funds and a selection of rifles and or "parts" to to choose to have "enhanced", then this sounds like a viable option. In addition, and something I haven't seen mentioned much if at all, is cyro freezing of the rifle or metal parts of the rifle to enhance the strength and grain of the steel and extend barrel and receiver life. An acquaintance of mine has a brother who does cera-Coating of rifles, particularly AR style but some AK's. The coating mentioned in the ad is likely more dureable than Cera-Coating, being used on the exaust systems of engines, however, even Cera-Coating could be an option.

03-26-2012, 09:53 AM	#1
themonk Member AKaholic #: 161657 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NOVA Posts: 173	Stainless, Aluminum, Titanium Gas tube Anyone know of a Stainless, Aluminum, or Titanium Gas tube. This seems like such an easy fix for corrosive ammo but I cant seem to find any. My google fu may be weak with this one. __________________ Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose.

03-26-2012, 11:11 AM	#2
Enraged Gecko Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 156919 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,699	Titanium is ridiculously expensive and aluminum fatigues rapidly under pressure. Aluminum alloys that don't suffer the structural issues of pure aluminum are also expensive. __________________ Never get into an arguement with an idiot. He'll just drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

04-05-2012, 08:42 AM	#6
themonk Member AKaholic #: 161657 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NOVA Posts: 173	Thanks guys. FYI - Titanium is not ridiculously expensive. I own a lot of titanium gear. I would have no issue paying $50 for a Titanium gas tube as it lightens the gun resists corrosion and would last forever. I get cleaning and how to do it, I clean after every outing. The Gas tube is the only place I will ever get rust if I slack and its humid. This seems like an easy fix. __________________ Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose.

04-05-2012, 11:10 PM	#12
Sneakers1971 Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 157433 Join Date: May 2011 Location: US, Pennsylvania, Roaring Spring PA. Posts: 2,145	Maybe think a little more outside the box. Ceramic coatings. This is not the stuff in granny's china closet. Highly abrasion resistant, temps to 2000°, will not chip, corrosian rsistant, greatly dissapates heat, and cools off faster. It's not real exspensive, might cost $50 for a gas tube and if it's new they stand behind it! It works on engine headers very well, my motorcycle headers cool off to the touch in 5 min. It comes in some colors including black. P.S. not all ceramic coatings are equal, this company is tried and true. Just never tried it on a gas tube! http://www.jet-hot.com/ __________________ "There are no good guns. There are no bad guns. Any gun in the hands of a bad man is a bad thing. Any gun in the hands of a decent person is no threat to anybody.........except bad people." -Charleton Heston "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not" -Thomas Jefferson

03-26-2012, 11:23 AM	#3
AKRAGE Member AKaholic #: 159787 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA, MN, Posts: 341	get a chrome lined gas tube

03-26-2012, 12:20 PM	#4
AKBLUE Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor AKaholic #: 5035 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 9,089	A brush and solvent will fix that. Gas tubes are $15 $20 replacement items if you are too lazy for the cleaning and they eventually wear through after a few years etc,.,.

03-26-2012, 07:20 PM	#5
HWI Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 161546 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: GLORIOUS FLORIDA Posts: 2,630	Kind of pointless to get a fancy gas tube to avoid corrosion if you aren't also getting a gas block of the same material. An easy fix for corrosive ammo is spraying down the gas tube, gas block, and barrel with water after you are done shooting. The water will dissolve the corrosive salts.

04-05-2012, 09:10 AM	#7
AKBLUE Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor AKaholic #: 5035 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 9,089	I hear you., I'm not a saavy person on how they form or contour Titanium but I suspect that a gas tube is pretty complex in terms of ferrules, flutes etc.,. Also not sure on durability vs steel in terms of abrasion resistance and overall strength. A gas tube is hardedned steel and pretty rough. AFAIK Titanium is stronger than aluminum but only comparable to mild steel in most available forms.

04-06-2012, 05:42 AM	#14
Disburse-Now Veteran Member AKaholic #: 79142 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: USA, Lakeland, FL Posts: 1,547	Sneakers1971 - Thanks for the heads up! If one has the funds and a selection of rifles and or "parts" to to choose to have "enhanced", then this sounds like a viable option. In addition, and something I haven't seen mentioned much if at all, is cyro freezing of the rifle or metal parts of the rifle to enhance the strength and grain of the steel and extend barrel and receiver life. An acquaintance of mine has a brother who does cera-Coating of rifles, particularly AR style but some AK's. The coating mentioned in the ad is likely more dureable than Cera-Coating, being used on the exaust systems of engines, however, even Cera-Coating could be an option.

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