WTK value of this AK pistol

[TheGreek!]

I bought this new a couple years back and never shot it, its still brand new. Its an I.O. Industries STP-2000 pistol. When I found it only 1 place had it and it was only available for a short time and then they were gone before I could buy a second one. I've never seen one come up on GB for sale so I'm not sure what to ask for it if I decide to sell it.

[Pratt1990]

That is sweet

[WTSGDYBBR]

Seems everyone has something bad to say about I.O.. I would rate it around the 400-500 buck range. You could get 400 as a kit.

[bryjcom]

With the draco pistols out around the $450 range I wouldn't think you would get much more than that.

IMHO I think the dracos look better, but again thats just opinion...

[TheGreek!]

Originally Posted by bryjcom

With the draco pistols out around the $450 range I wouldn't think you would get much more than that.

IMHO I think the dracos look better, but again thats just opinion...

Dracos are in the 500 + range now and going even higher (one sold yesterday on GB for 600).

[bryjcom]

Originally Posted by TheGreek!

Dracos are in the 500 + range now and going even higher (one sold yesterday on GB for 600).

Damn!! My neighbor just picked up a couple a few months ago for around $450 if I remember right. One he's planning to SBR the other I can't remember.

Looks like people might be ramping up for another bad election year!!!!

[I.Oak47]

Hello there, can you school me on the HG retainer for this ? I was goin to buy one I.O but not sure how it works, theres a key also? Hmm? (HG retainer)
*As for the gun, I had no Idea i.o ever put the 2000 out in pistol, so I would guess it has to run more than their stp-2000 rifles. Shoot them an email over at i.o and see what they say.

[bigsnoz]

Draco's are much more desirable than these, but you still wouldnt have a problem selling it for the 450 (easy sale) to 500 (people would walk around it and debate it).

[nalioth]

Originally Posted by bryjcom

With the draco pistols out around the $450 range I wouldn't think you would get much more than that.

You'd be correct.

These IO STG (and apparently these, too) builds are hacked together out of random parts kits (the Draco is a factory AK).

There's a reason that you don't see many of these.

Nobody bought them when they were available because those that did buy them could see how screwed they were.

Have you shot it?
Does it run?

You may have a wall hanger there, and not know it (odds are good with IO).

My advice is to put it on GunJoker and see what the market decides (might want to list it with a "no returns" conditional so it doesn't boomerang)

[TheGreek!]

Originally Posted by nalioth

You'd be correct.

These IO STG (and apparently these, too) builds are hacked together out of random parts kits (the Draco is a factory AK).

There's a reason that you don't see many of these.

Nobody bought them when they were available because those that did buy them could see how screwed they were.

Have you shot it?
Does it run?

You may have a wall hanger there, and not know it (odds are good with IO).

My advice is to put it on GunJoker and see what the market decides (might want to list it with a "no returns" conditional so it doesn't boomerang)

Did you even bother to read the first sentence of the first post in this thread or do you just come into peoples threads and shit on them without reading anything first? I said that the gun is still brand new and has never been fired.

[TheGreek!]

By the way, it has an underfolder rear trunnion in it like a draco-c does but two of the rear trunnion rivets were drilled right on the edges of the holes in the trunnion that the stock hardware passes through and they will have to be removed and relocated to a different part of the receiver (the stock will cover up where the old rivets holes were on the receiver thankfully) and then the scope rail will have to be removed too if someone wanted to sbr it and put an underfolder stock on it. It could be done though and it would probably look pretty cool with an underfolder on it.

[dariman3]

I'd give $40 for the handguards and pistol grip. Just bought a rifle kit minus furniture and need those parts. An East German wire folder would be the correct stock if it was to be sbr'd.

[TheGreek!]

Are you sure its a copy of an east german gun? If so which one? I aint parting it out by the way, lol....I'm going to bed now, see ya'll later on in the morning....

[dariman3]

Originally Posted by TheGreek!

Are you sure its a copy of an east german gun? If so which one? I aint parting it out by the way, lol....I'm going to bed now, see ya'll later on in the morning....

It's a Romanian parts gun based loosely on the E.G. Wieger STG943 special purpose carbine. Different front sight and similar h/g's. SBR it!

[nalioth]

I.O. expected its jobbers to produce a lot of these on a daily basis.

"Quantity over quality" is not the way to run a railroad, and this really showed in these guns.


Put it on GunJoker and let some uninformed mall ninja buy it.

[90lxtc]

if Eric the hun is selling it 900$

the average "Honest" person 4-500$

[sleestak70]

550.00, and a eleven pack.

[Pratt1990]

Originally Posted by nalioth

You'd be correct.

These IO STG (and apparently these, too) builds are hacked together out of random parts kits (the Draco is a factory AK).

There's a reason that you don't see many of these.

Nobody bought them when they were available because those that did buy them could see how screwed they were.

Have you shot it?
Does it run?

You may have a wall hanger there, and not know it (odds are good with IO).

My advice is to put it on GunJoker and see what the market decides (might want to list it with a "no returns" conditional so it doesn't boomerang)

Why is it that everyone assumes parts kit built guns are junk ad factory built is the only way? Sure not all are perfect but anything is a crap shoot that's rebuilt, and IMHO IDE take this over a Draco, it's more practical for use, and u can actually aim with it.

[TheGreek!]

Originally Posted by nalioth

I.O. expected its jobbers to produce a lot of these on a daily basis.

"Quantity over quality" is not the way to run a railroad, and this really showed in these guns.


Put it on GunJoker and let some uninformed mall ninja buy it.

You think you know everything but in reality you dont know shit. Keep your worthlesss opinions to yourself neandratholith. Nobody here likes you and there's a reason for it.

[nalioth]

Originally Posted by TheGreek!

You dont know shit. Keep your worthlesss opinions to yourself neandratholith. Nobody here likes you and there's a reason for it.

Believe what you like.

I worked for one of the jobbers who built these (doing computer stuff).

I know what I'm talking about.


Perhaps you just don't feel like reading all the horror stories (or even your own picture [ with the shitty rivet placement ]) about these guns (or IO's general reputation).

Put it on GunJoker and let the market decide. There are thousands of folks out there who are ignorant of IO's reputation who'll spend top dollar because "it looks cool!".

[squirrelblaster]

how long is the barrel on that thing?

[TheGreek!]

Originally Posted by nalioth

Believe what you like.

I worked for one of the jobbers who built these (doing computer stuff).

I know what I'm talking about.


Perhaps you just don't feel like reading all the horror stories (or even your own picture [ with the shitty rivet placement ]) about these guns (or IO's general reputation).

Put it on GunJoker and let the market decide. There are thousands of folks out there who are ignorant of IO's reputation who'll spend top dollar because "it looks cool!".

Doing computer stuff for one of IO's jobbers suddenly makes you an expert on IO's guns? Get the hell out of here, you have no more credibility left, especially now. I'll bet its built better than anything you can put together. Stay out of my threads please, you have now been warned. If you dont stay out of this thread I will ask a moderator to ban you for trolling the marketplace.

[TheGreek!]

Originally Posted by squirrelblaster

how long is the barrel on that thing?

I'm not sure really, I'll measure it later today and let ya know. I'm guessing around 10 inches but thats just a guess.

[nalioth]

Originally Posted by TheGreek!

Doing computer stuff for one of IO's jobbers suddenly makes you an expert on IO's guns?

Well, since I had to walk though the production area to get to the computers, it makes me experienced with the how they did things.

I also *GASP* talked to the production guys on a daily basis.

So I probably know a little bit more about this than you think.

Originally Posted by TheGreek!

If you dont stay out of this thread I will ask a moderator to ban you for trolling the marketplace.

Oh, I'm sorry if you don't like what I'm saying.

This is a "WTK" thread (That's "want to know", if you forgot) and I'm sharing what I know.

"Trolling the marketplace" is when someone responds to someone's sales or WTB thread with remarks like "You can buy these cheaper at Big 5." or "You're a pansy for wanting to buy one of these - buy one of those instead."

Again, this isn't a WTS or WTB thread, and I'm not trolling ("Trolling" isn't "I don't like what the guy's saying". "Trolling" has a specific meaning).

[TheGreek!]

I told you to stay out of my thread in the marketplace and you refuse to do so. You are trolling the marketplace by repeatedly disobeying my demands to stay out of my thread. This is your last warning. Get out of my thread and stay out or I'm forwarding this thread to Jen.

[TheGreek!]

Originally Posted by I.Oak47

Hello there, can you school me on the HG retainer for this ? I was goin to buy one I.O but not sure how it works, theres a key also? Hmm? (HG retainer)
*As for the gun, I had no Idea i.o ever put the 2000 out in pistol, so I would guess it has to run more than their stp-2000 rifles. Shoot them an email over at i.o and see what they say.

I havent tried to take it apart yet so I really cant tell ya how its done right now. It looks like the front sling hoop might have something to do with removing the retainer but I'm not sure yet. Its still a cool looking gun though, it should generate some conversation at the range. I wonder if IO will ever bring them back?