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Old 02-14-2012, 11:36 PM   #1
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Hello all!!! I am the proud new owner of a Zastava PAP. I am planning on keeping it a single stack (switching mags doesnt bother me that much). Since this is my first rifle ever I decided to go with something that was cheap, got good reviews, and IMO looks pretty good. My plans right now is to add a quad rail (any brand suggestions?) to the front and attach a foregrip. Maybe run a red dot scope on it but heard about it having trouble maintaining zero with mounted scopes. IDK if anyone has tried to add an aftermarket rail on it but if someone has please let me know which brand works best. My primary purpose for this gun is to strictly learn AK's before I step up and buy an expensive model. The way I see it 380 bucks isn't that bad for a gun that will remain mostly stock.
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:40 PM   #2
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Where did you get it from? I am wanting to buy some.
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:44 PM   #3
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That is a great buy. Only cheap in price, very good quality firearm IMO. I own two of them Congrats
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Where did you get it from? I am wanting to buy some.
galleryofguns.com. They update stock every so often and when I purchased it there were 20 left in stock.

Thanks Wess...I already have about 200 rounds of ammo for it and plan on buying a few more boxes before I hit the range on Saturday.
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galleryofguns.com. They update stock every so often and when I purchased it there were 20 left in stock.

Thanks Wess...I already have about 200 rounds of ammo for it and plan on buying a few more boxes before I hit the range on Saturday.
You'll find it surprisingly accurate for an AK. Most don't like the ten round mag and thumbhole stock. I for one think the stock makes it a very comfortable shooter and have no problems with ten rounds. Enjoy!
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Old 02-15-2012, 08:55 AM   #6
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Congrats on the Zastava. I have one but mine is far from stock anymore.
Just a bit of advice on the quad rail. Make sure you get one that states its for a Yugo or M70. The Zastava hand guard and gas tube are slightly different in length then the standard AK's. UTG makes one that is lower cost unit. Midwest Industries makes one that will also allow you to 1/3 lower co-witness your iron sites, and there is also the Ultimak Rail that will do the same. The UTG rail will not allow the co-witness with the iron sites.
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Congrats. One of those is on my short list.
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:59 PM   #8
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Let me add my congratulations also. They are very well made and are indeed surprisingly accurate. Like maxxram, mine is far from stock.
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Old 02-17-2012, 02:02 AM   #9
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Do you mind listing what you have on your PAP's? I'm trying to get some idea's on what I may be interested in.
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:29 AM   #10
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Do you mind listing what you have on your PAP's? I'm trying to get some idea's on what I may be interested in.

I have done the following to my Zastava:
High Cap Conversion with M72 Bolt
Threaded the barrel and installed a cnc warrior flash suppressor
UTG Quad Rail
TRS-25 red dot mounted on the quad rail with a quick release 45deg offset mount
Magpul AFG2 Grip
Vertical Grip Bi-pod
Hogue Grip
Tapco G2 Trigger Group with retainer plate
Installed a side mount optics bracket and mounted a fixed 4 power scope on a quick release mount
Made a custom adapter to be able to install an M4 style adjustable stock
Installed an adapter to make the M4 stock folding

I know alot of people would frown on some of the things I've done to mine, but I made the PAP what I personally wanted it to be.

Here is a before and after pic.

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Do you mind listing what you have on your PAP's? I'm trying to get some idea's on what I may be interested in.
Lets see...

New stock, handguards and pistol grip
Conversion to double stack magazine
Threaded barrel for muzzle brake
Added cleaning rod
Replaced bolt cover with modified Bulgarian
Replaced rear sight with Russian RPK (adjustable for windage)
Installed Yugo M70 sling


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Old 02-17-2012, 08:57 PM   #12
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UTG makes a quad rail for the Yugoslavian AK. That might be one of the few that will fit the PAP properly. Make it is the the model for the Yugoslavian AK if you buy one. Try buying some single stack steel magazines. I forget which one may fit the PAP. Some fit it and some require a bit of fitting done to the magazines. Some won't work at all but they re cheap enough to find out. The steel magazines should hold up better than the factory plastic ones.
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:01 PM   #13
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Thanks a lot for the insight and for posting pics of your guns with mod lists.
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:06 PM   #14
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Great gun just got mine back from double stack conversion fed like a sewing machine. waiting on m70 stock from ironwood still. If you need a couple more mags pm me i'd go $20 for two shipped just to get rid of them and save you a few bucks seems like the factory ones were 35-40 each.
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Great gun just got mine back from double stack conversion fed like a sewing machine. waiting on m70 stock from ironwood still. If you need a couple more mags pm me i'd go $20 for two shipped just to get rid of them and save you a few bucks seems like the factory ones were 35-40 each.
If scope 27 doesn't want them I will buy them
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Lets see...

New stock, handguards and pistol grip
Conversion to double stack magazine
Threaded barrel for muzzle brake
Added cleaning rod
Replaced bolt cover with modified Bulgarian
Replaced rear sight with Russian RPK (adjustable for windage)
Installed Yugo M70 sling


That looks great!
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Old 02-18-2012, 03:16 PM   #17
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I have done the following to my Zastava:
High Cap Conversion with M72 Bolt
Threaded the barrel and installed a cnc warrior flash suppressor
UTG Quad Rail
TRS-25 red dot mounted on the quad rail with a quick release 45deg offset mount
Magpul AFG2 Grip
Vertical Grip Bi-pod
Hogue Grip
Tapco G2 Trigger Group with retainer plate
Installed a side mount optics bracket and mounted a fixed 4 power scope on a quick release mount
Made a custom adapter to be able to install an M4 style adjustable stock
Installed an adapter to make the M4 stock folding

I know alot of people would frown on some of the things I've done to mine, but I made the PAP what I personally wanted it to be.

Here is a before and after pic.
That's how I want my AK except Im keepin it at 10 rounds. I do want a Foregrip with a light instead of a bi pod and am trying to find a nice scope that's good for around 100-150 yards until I learn more about my PAP.

I found a few scope mounts but dont know which I should buy.

I found this....http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AKS006-6.html

and there are two others on CTD but they're out of stock. Im ready to start doing upgrades and dont know when they'll be available. If anyone knows of any other mounts with side rails please chime in.
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This is the side mount that i am using.
http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.p...us=&mtrack=2m2
You will also need to purchase an install one of the mounting brackets to be able to use any of the side mount.
http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.p...us=&mtrack=2m2
In order to mount the bracket you will have to drill three holes and bolt it into place.
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That's how I want my AK except Im keepin it at 10 rounds. I do want a Foregrip with a light instead of a bi pod and am trying to find a nice scope that's good for around 100-150 yards until I learn more about my PAP.

I found a few scope mounts but dont know which I should buy.

I found this....http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AKS006-6.html

and there are two others on CTD but they're out of stock. Im ready to start doing upgrades and dont know when they'll be available. If anyone knows of any other mounts with side rails please chime in.
There are much better mounts than that. That one is not quick detach and not really very good. Google and try Kalinka Optics for a milspec mount. Beter than the Chinese stuff.
Try shooting it first before you hang all the plastic and flashlights and make a 14 pound vehicle out of it.
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If you're gonna go with a cheap mount, this one actually gets good reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Quick-Deta...3&sr=8-2-spell
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Old 02-18-2012, 04:58 PM   #21
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Just wondering. Are the barrels on these chrome lined?
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I read that they aren't chrome lined.

I'm not trying to go cheap on this gun nor am I thinking on dumping a bunch of cash either . I've learned that there are certain things you don't go cheap with. This is one if those things. I do agree that I should learn the gun first before adding tons of things on. One thing that is certain about what I want is to be able to compare a before and after feeling.
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I've heard in several places that Zastava has started chrome-plating their barrels within the last 1-2 years. If yours is a new production model, I'd love to hear if they finally started doing it. I don't plan on buying one, but it's nice to know.
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bought my pap about 6 months ago, and it doesnt appear to be chrome lined... but i still love her
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Does it have the heavy barrel like other Yugo. rifles and is it original or American made. If these have the original barrel and reciever, I would rather have something like this over some CAI "Polish Ak 47". It isn't exactly a Polish Ak when the two most important parts (barrel and receiver) are made in America. This is one reason why you can't go wrong with an SGL series or SAIGA conversion rifle. The SGL's are getting a little too high but you get what you pay for.

They should quit using this market ploy and call them "Polish style" or "Egyptian style" rifles.
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Highpower - Nice job!
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I have done the following to my Zastava:
High Cap Conversion with M72 Bolt
Threaded the barrel and installed a cnc warrior flash suppressor
UTG Quad Rail
TRS-25 red dot mounted on the quad rail with a quick release 45deg offset mount
Magpul AFG2 Grip
Vertical Grip Bi-pod
Hogue Grip
Tapco G2 Trigger Group with retainer plate
Installed a side mount optics bracket and mounted a fixed 4 power scope on a quick release mount
Made a custom adapter to be able to install an M4 style adjustable stock
Installed an adapter to make the M4 stock folding

I know alot of people would frown on some of the things I've done to mine, but I made the PAP what I personally wanted it to be.

Here is a before and after pic.


sorry to thread jack but how did you install the side mount for the scope on the zastava?
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:56 AM   #28
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sorry to thread jack but how did you install the side mount for the scope on the zastava?
I ordered the UTG Side mount rail, The most important part is to get it squared with the top of the receiver. I use a set of calipers to make sure the front and rear of the mount was the same distance from the top.

Once i had everything lined up i marked and drilled the front hole. The front bolt hole is the toughest because it is so close to where the old mag supports were. so you may run into an issues there, but nothing a dremel cant handle. Once I had the front bolt in i then remeasured a few times to make sure the mount was still square with the top of the receiver, and then drilled the back hole. Once that one was bolted in i drilled the middle one.

The bolts that came with it were a little short (was only getting threads into the nut about 3/4 of the way), so I put in slightly longer screws. One other option I may still do is you can thread the rail itself for 10-32 threads and use cap screws and bolt it from the inside out.
All in all i think it came out great.
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I ordered the UTG Side mount rail, The most important part is to get it squared with the top of the receiver. I use a set of calipers to make sure the front and rear of the mount was the same distance from the top.

Once i had everything lined up i marked and drilled the front hole. The front bolt hole is the toughest because it is so close to where the old mag supports were. so you may run into an issues there, but nothing a dremel cant handle. Once I had the front bolt in i then remeasured a few times to make sure the mount was still square with the top of the receiver, and then drilled the back hole. Once that one was bolted in i drilled the middle one.

The bolts that came with it were a little short (was only getting threads into the nut about 3/4 of the way), so I put in slightly longer screws. One other option I may still do is you can thread the rail itself for 10-32 threads and use cap screws and bolt it from the inside out.
All in all i think it came out great.
Thanks for the info too, I just purchased that side mount rail yesterday and was wondering if I had to do a little drilling.
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cool, i have not received my pap yet but its on order so i'm just trying to get educated on the pap and what there is to do to it.
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only thing about yugo i think just about every part is noncompatable with akm
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