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Old 04-05-2018, 06:51 AM   #36
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UPDATE!!!

I just got a phone call from a number I didn't recognize. Guy asked for me by name, I said who's calling?

"This is Marc Krebs" lol wtf!

So he proceeded to tell me "it says right on the website it wont fit the bulged trunions"

"Uhhh yeah, sorry Marc, I dont know how they sell these in Illinois but here in Texas I have never seen a Vepr FM 11 without bulged trunnion. In fact, I dont see how they could sell them anywhere, isn't the entire selling point of Veprs the thick RPK barrel, the reinforced trunnion and the 1.5 millimeter receiver??? That's what I've always read."

So he proceeds to argue with me that all the FM 11's hes ever seen dont have bulged trunnion, and said he'd send me a picture.

I said look I dont wanna argue, just make it right.

He tells me ok, just ship it back to me, we're working on making them to fit the bulged trunnion now, they should be ready in 6-8 weeks, as soon as they're done we'll ship you one.

Ok, well.....are you gonna pay for me to ship this one to you? You didn't expect me to pay right?

He paused, let out a groan and sounded audibly annoyed. "Wellll.......I guess we could.......uhhh.....well look, how bout you pay for the shipping and we just knock it off your bill"

uhhh WHAT BILL? I already paid for the handguard.

"Uhhh, oh right.......sighhhhh........well I guess well just send you a shipping label when we mail you the new one"

So yeah. Not the kind of customer service I was expecting, dude was treating me like I was somehow the one inconveniencing HIM. I hung up and had a minute to think about it, and I should have just said send my money back.

But whatever, I'll wait for the new model, I've been waiting for a Krebs MLok hg for a long time.
I take it he never sent you a picture, huh?

You should tell him you have hundreds on people on a forum waiting for this proof of a FM without the reinforced trun.
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Old 04-05-2018, 02:54 PM   #37
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Avtomat Kalashnikov,

Thank you for contacting us regarding your purchase, product difficulties, and subsequent conversation. As discussed, we have issued you a return tag and are refunding your money for the hand guard. After review of our website we have identified an error in the product description.

The hand guard you purchased was designed for the 1B. The FM-11 was produced by the same company manufacturing the 1B; Molot. This is where the confusing has occurred. The hand guard for the 1B (pic attached) will not fit the FM-11 due to the bulged trunnions as you have mentioned. We are in the process of developing an M-Lok hand guard specifically for the FM-11.

As a result of this confusion, we will be sending you a complimentary replacement when it becomes available. We expect this to be within 5-6 weeks.
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Old 04-05-2018, 03:04 PM   #38
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look at that service!
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Old 04-05-2018, 04:56 PM   #39
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:39 PM   #40
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Avtomat Kalashnikov,

Thank you for contacting us regarding your purchase, product difficulties, and subsequent conversation. As discussed, we have issued you a return tag and are refunding your money for the hand guard. After review of our website we have identified a fuckup in the product description.

The hand guard you purchased was designed for the 1B. The FM-11 was produced by the same company manufacturing the 1B; Molot. This is where we fucked up. The hand guard for the 1B (pic attached) will not fit the FM-11 due to the bulged trunnions as you have mentioned. We are in the process of developing an M-Lok hand guard specifically for the FM-11.

As a result of this fuck up, we will be sending you a complimentary replacement when it becomes available. We expect this to be within 5-6 weeks.
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:53 PM   #41
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Avtomat Kalashnikov,

Thank you for contacting us regarding your purchase, product difficulties, and subsequent conversation. As discussed, we have issued you a return tag and are refunding your money for the hand guard. After review of our website we have identified an error in the product description.

The hand guard you purchased was designed for the 1B. The FM-11 was produced by the same company manufacturing the 1B; Molot. This is where the confusing has occurred. The hand guard for the 1B (pic attached) will not fit the FM-11 due to the bulged trunnions as you have mentioned. We are in the process of developing an M-Lok hand guard specifically for the FM-11.

As a result of this confusion, we will be sending you a complimentary replacement when it becomes available. We expect this to be within 5-6 weeks.
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I have several Veprs with Krebs rails and their safeties, they produce excellent product, but everybody messes up once awhile
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Old 04-05-2018, 07:50 PM   #42
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Good for you OP!!!
Hey they could of said, "Fuck you and your whiny 'net friend'"after agreeing to refunding the OPs money then reading this thread. But they took the high road and refunded the dude his cash and are making him whole by giving him a freaking rail for FREE!!! Shit happens, people make mistakes.

OP, post up some pics of the new hand guard when you get it. Sounds like you are getting one of the first production ones if I read their reply correctly. Pretty sweet.
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Old 04-05-2018, 09:09 PM   #43
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Well that certainly sounds like a fucked up/contradiction from Krebs to me. OP , lets us know what Krebs has to say. I didn't need a mlok top cover so I settled on the mlock LHG that AKOU sells for one on my Fm's. Not the sexiest, but it fits/works,
Same here.

Sounds like they are taking care of you OP. Free stuff rocks
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Old 04-05-2018, 09:13 PM   #44
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OP, post up some pics of the new hand guard when you get it. Sounds like you are getting one of the first production ones if I read their reply correctly. Pretty sweet.
Pretty sweet indeed.
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Old 04-05-2018, 09:55 PM   #45
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Avtomat Kalashnikov,

Thank you for contacting us regarding your purchase, product difficulties, and subsequent conversation. As discussed, we have issued you a return tag and are refunding your money for the hand guard. After review of our website we have identified an error in the product description.

The hand guard you purchased was designed for the 1B. The FM-11 was produced by the same company manufacturing the 1B; Molot. This is where the confusing has occurred. The hand guard for the 1B (pic attached) will not fit the FM-11 due to the bulged trunnions as you have mentioned. We are in the process of developing an M-Lok hand guard specifically for the FM-11.

As a result of this confusion, we will be sending you a complimentary replacement when it becomes available. We expect this to be within 5-6 weeks.
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Gotta tip my hat at this showing of humility. Not the Krebs I've heard of before. Good Tactics no doubt will pay handsome dividends among the tough crowd.
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Old 04-05-2018, 10:05 PM   #46
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Avtomat Kalashnikov,

Thank you for contacting us regarding your purchase, product difficulties, and subsequent conversation. As discussed, we have issued you a return tag and are refunding your money for the hand guard. After review of our website we have identified an error in the product description.

The hand guard you purchased was designed for the 1B. The FM-11 was produced by the same company manufacturing the 1B; Molot. This is where the confusing has occurred. The hand guard for the 1B (pic attached) will not fit the FM-11 due to the bulged trunnions as you have mentioned. We are in the process of developing an M-Lok hand guard specifically for the FM-11.

As a result of this confusion, we will be sending you a complimentary replacement when it becomes available. We expect this to be within 5-6 weeks.
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Well I'll be damned.

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Old 04-05-2018, 10:07 PM   #47
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Well, guys, after what they are doing to make things right, I cant talk shit anymore.

And I'm pretty excited about being the first to receive their first MLOK rail for my Vepr.

Will post an update 5-6 weeks from now!
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Old 04-11-2018, 08:45 PM   #48
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Avtomat Kalashnikov,

Thank you for contacting us regarding your purchase, product difficulties, and subsequent conversation. As discussed, we have issued you a return tag and are refunding your money for the hand guard. After review of our website we have identified an error in the product description.

The hand guard you purchased was designed for the 1B. The FM-11 was produced by the same company manufacturing the 1B; Molot. This is where the confusing has occurred. The hand guard for the 1B (pic attached) will not fit the FM-11 due to the bulged trunnions as you have mentioned. We are in the process of developing an M-Lok hand guard specifically for the FM-11.

As a result of this confusion, we will be sending you a complimentary replacement when it becomes available.
Krebs,

I see ya'll have released the AC-18's with the full length M-Lok rail. Why cant we buy just the rail by itself? Is this something yall are going to offer on the website soon?
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Old 05-08-2018, 03:22 PM   #49
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Krebs,

I see ya'll have released the AC-18's with the full length M-Lok rail. Why cant we buy just the rail by itself? Is this something yall are going to offer on the website soon?
Avtomat Kalashnikov,

We are running a couple weeks behind for the Vepr M-Lok for you. Our supplier is running behind so it pushes us behind a bit but you are first on the list to get the replacement. Sorry for the delay.

As for the full length M-Lok well, it fits the AC15/18. We don't have the mounting hardware for other models at this time. All of our current production of those rails are being used for shop built rifles. Maybe in the future we might have something but it is not a focus right now.
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Avtomat Kalashnikov,

We are running a couple weeks behind for the Vepr M-Lok for you. Our supplier is running behind so it pushes us behind a bit but you are first on the list to get the replacement. Sorry for the delay.

As for the full length M-Lok well, it fits the AC15/18. We don't have the mounting hardware for other models at this time. All of our current production of those rails are being used for shop built rifles. Maybe in the future we might have something but it is not a focus right now.
Yall have to do it man, a full length M-Lok rail from Krebs would sell like hotcakes, especially if yall made different versions available, to fit Veprs, Arsenals, Romanians etc. I would buy three of them right off the bat!
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:16 AM   #51
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They are marked with a B but sold and were marketed as the Vepr 1V-E The caliber you showed has about 240 in the country total, definetly my favorite AK.
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Old 06-21-2018, 06:43 PM   #52
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We are running a couple weeks behind for the Vepr M-Lok for you. Our supplier is running behind so it pushes us behind a bit but you are first on the list to get the replacement. Sorry for the delay.
Hi Krebs,

I still haven't received my rail. I understand you said yall were running a couple weeks behind, but that was 6 weeks ago. Have you guys shipped it out yet?
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Old 06-22-2018, 10:05 PM   #53
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Interesting thread, exciting stuff from Krebs. I remember they announced that they would be producing full length M-Lok hanguards for the FM series a few months ago on IG. Its a bummer seeing that its not a focus of theirs right now.
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:31 PM   #54
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Back to the FM47 11.. How hard is it to put one of those Krebs for guards on? How much are they when they are in stock?
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Old 07-02-2018, 03:50 PM   #55
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Ooh... so is Krebs coming out with an MLOK extended handguard for those slant-back VEPRs?
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Old 07-14-2018, 02:52 AM   #56
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any update on this? I was going to order one of the handguards for my fm off of ak operators union but they are sold out. Cant even get them from the company that makes them. Wish I could find one. The krebs would be a good choice but looks like its been months and the op still doesnt have his. On another note, wish somebody would bake an extended handguard that didnt require permanently modifying an ak by having to remove the front handguard lock or cutting off the sling loop. Not just for vepr but any ak. Cant be that hard to engineer as I believe most guys dont want to take a hack saw to their rifles should they decide to change handguards back to original or different setup.
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