Go Back   The AK Files Forums > General Forums > Survival and Preparedness

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-27-2017, 11:24 AM   #36
Johnny Gunz
Senior Member
 
AKaholic #: 182412
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 537
Default

This is very interesting, but expensive. I like that it can pump into your pressure tank. Do y'all have any info or opinions?

http://www.simplepump.com/index.html
__________________
But for the Grace of God, there, I go.
Johnny Gunz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2017, 02:37 PM   #37
Steve_In_29
Semper Fi
 
AKaholic #: 183727
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: 29 Palms, CA/St John's, AZ
Posts: 3,511
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Gunz View Post
This is very interesting, but expensive. I like that it can pump into your pressure tank. Do y'all have any info or opinions?

http://www.simplepump.com/index.html
If it is going to pull water up from 300 feet AND against the 40ish psi of a pressure tank, the volume per stroke has got to be pretty low. Think of the difference in volume when comparing a low pressure air pump to fill an inflatable toy and a high pressure pump for a car tire.

I'm guessing it will take a LONG time to fill even a small sized pressure tank let alone the 100+ gallon one attached to my system. The person using it will develop arms like Popeye...or a heart attack.
Steve_In_29 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2017, 01:19 PM   #38
sorryuquit
Veteran Member
Bronze Contributor
 
AKaholic #: 158770
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: that other Olean
Posts: 1,171
Default

You guys understand that a pressure tank or accumulator tank is filled with air and is used to reduce the amount of times the pressure switch turns on and off, don't you?
__________________
Quote:
I ain't no slack jaw, watchin' Hee Haw
cause my black n white's ridin on a see saw
you see either way I saw a shade of gray
The extremes are my in betweens, Y'all
sorryuquit is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2017, 03:02 PM   #39
Johnny Gunz
Senior Member
 
AKaholic #: 182412
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 537
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sorryuquit View Post
You guys understand that a pressure tank or accumulator tank is filled with air and is used to reduce the amount of times the pressure switch turns on and off, don't you?
I don't know much about water wells, but per Professor Google:

"A well pump is connected to a well pressure tank, which acts as a reservoir to store the water that will be distributed throughout a home."

https://www.rgwater.com/3-types-of-w...sure-tanks.php

SimplePump states their pump is designed to fill the pressure tank for distribution.
__________________
But for the Grace of God, there, I go.
Johnny Gunz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2017, 07:31 PM   #40
Steve_In_29
Semper Fi
 
AKaholic #: 183727
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: 29 Palms, CA/St John's, AZ
Posts: 3,511
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sorryuquit View Post
You guys understand that a pressure tank or accumulator tank is filled with air and is used to reduce the amount of times the pressure switch turns on and off, don't you?
Yes I understand exactly what a pressure tank is. I have zero idea what point were you trying to make though.
Steve_In_29 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2017, 08:22 PM   #41
Sweersa
Curio & Relic
 
Sweersa's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 157316
Join Date: May 2011
Location: USA MI
Posts: 11,065
Default

I have a well and a generator that is more than capable of powering the entire house.

A separate well with a hand pump is an excellent idea as a backup option.
__________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeManassas View Post
So, can I assume that WTF is not one of the Marketplace headings like WTS, WTB, or WTT?
Sweersa is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2017, 07:15 AM   #42
TheBohunk
Curio & Relic
 
TheBohunk's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 174221
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Evanston, IA
Posts: 2,032
Default

The Simple Pump website.....

What do they mean by "pitless pump" or "pitless adapter"?

I've never heard that terminology before.
__________________
Do you hear what I hear? Doors are sliding shut.....


In or around Iowa? Join the Iowa Region Avtomats
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/group.php?groupid=23
TheBohunk is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2017, 09:14 AM   #43
FRISKY
New Member
 
AKaholic #: 189295
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Posts: 12
Default

A "Pitless" adapter is an underground connection joint for the well's water pipe. It goes thru the side of the well casing so it won't freeze in cold weather.
FRISKY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2017, 10:40 AM   #44
Aceshigh
Lt Topper
 
Aceshigh's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 5008
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: SCIF
Posts: 11,548
Default

I wish I could get a well on my property.

Village ordnance won't allow for it. The county controls (owns) the land we all buy (lease) so, it's a catch 22.

My brother is a big Union driller so I could do it, but he'd risk being fired.
__________________


AK Files custom search
Aceshigh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2017, 12:20 AM   #45
Hounds 51
Veteran Member
 
Hounds 51's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 166447
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bethel PA
Posts: 1,258
Default

I got a price quote from Simple Pump, for my well.
My well is approx 48' deep with a 35' column of water at approx 10 gal per min.
The price quote was $1,500 with shipping.
Am thinking about it but must save up for that as I am on limited income.
For that price I hope it works better than that piece of shit pitcher pump that I now have.
__________________
WHAT WE NEED ARE LEADERS, NOT POLITICIANS!!!!!!

(The times, they are a changing)

Its not just the 2nd, It's our way of life!
Hounds 51 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2017, 07:22 PM   #46
Orpheus
Veteran Member
 
AKaholic #: 177936
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Canada.
Posts: 1,232
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve_In_29 View Post
Not sure if you need batteries, I thought someone mentioned a direct solar setup. With a big enough storage tank, water pumped up during day is available at night or for several days of cloudy weather.
A pump eats a lot of current, if you were running direct solar you'd need a lot of panels Im guessing
Orpheus is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2017, 07:49 PM   #47
10acresandrocks
Senior Member
Bronze Contributor
 
AKaholic #: 185701
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 771
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Orpheus View Post
A pump eats a lot of current, if you were running direct solar you'd need a lot of panels Im guessing
Look at Gundfos, they have pumps that will take about any voltage you can throw at them. Not cheap.

http://us.grundfos.com/products/find...ct/sqflex.html
10acresandrocks is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2017, 11:03 PM   #48
Steve_In_29
Semper Fi
 
AKaholic #: 183727
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: 29 Palms, CA/St John's, AZ
Posts: 3,511
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Orpheus View Post
A pump eats a lot of current, if you were running direct solar you'd need a lot of panels Im guessing
Not from what I am seeing around the stock tanks on the ranches. Since its just pumping into a tank and not trying to fill a pressure tank the current draw is less. Then use a secondary pump to pressurize the house plumbing.
Steve_In_29 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2017, 07:12 AM   #49
TheBohunk
Curio & Relic
 
TheBohunk's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 174221
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Evanston, IA
Posts: 2,032
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FRISKY View Post
A "Pitless" adapter is an underground connection joint for the well's water pipe. It goes thru the side of the well casing so it won't freeze in cold weather.
Alright. Thank you. Makes more sense now.
__________________
Do you hear what I hear? Doors are sliding shut.....


In or around Iowa? Join the Iowa Region Avtomats
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/group.php?groupid=23
TheBohunk is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2017, 08:18 PM   #50
indianafarmer
Member
 
AKaholic #: 173293
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Low Key
Posts: 105
Default

Anybody got recommendations for storing well water?
indianafarmer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2017, 06:57 PM   #51
Steve_In_29
Semper Fi
 
AKaholic #: 183727
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: 29 Palms, CA/St John's, AZ
Posts: 3,511
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by indianafarmer View Post
Anybody got recommendations for storing well water?
A 2500 gallon tank works great. Pump it into the tank and then use a secondary pump to pressurize the plumbing. That way you have 2500 gal on hand at any given moment.
Steve_In_29 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2017, 10:10 PM   #52
PermaAK
Curio & Relic
Contributor
 
PermaAK's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 188710
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Off Grid For A While
Posts: 2,109
Default

We have a solar setup with 6 panels wired direct to a grundfos variable voltage pump that will also run on AC generator pwr. We have a modest tank, but I'm planning on a very large underground tank in the future for fire fighting, pond use, & privacy. Well is 340' deep with static @ 260'.
__________________
PermaAK is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©1998-2017 The AK FIles