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Old 04-16-2018, 05:34 PM   #1
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Heading home with one.
They were in great shape so I picked one out.
Priced at $259 plus tax.
Never shot a Mak or variant, but have shot a ppk 380. Pics coming up soon.
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:41 PM   #2
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Heading home with one.
They were in great shape so I picked one out.
Priced at $259 plus tax.
Never shot a Mak or variant, but have shot a ppk 380. Pics coming up soon.
I had one back when they were $135.
Very nice finish, pretty stout recoil though.
Functioned perfectly, just had too many 9x18 and sold it off.
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I had one back when they were $135.
Very nice finish, pretty stout recoil though.
Functioned perfectly, just had too many 9x18 and sold it off.
That's what I heard that the recoil is kinda stiff.
I remember shooting a ppk and how it recoiled more than a locking breach pistol.
Well I got a box of ammo so this thur I see how it shoots. Condition looks great for being 50yrs old.
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The double action trigger pull is horrible at about 30 lbs. I performed the "Wolff Springs Upgrade" on mine as soon as I purchased it.

It definitely is not a range gun. Recoil is quite punishing.
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They are a laser gun. Most accurate gun you'll ever shoot, if you can figure out and get used-to the micro sights.
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:16 PM   #6
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Neat lil' gun.
Took the grips off and field strip. Bore is excellent,
no trace of rust anywhere to be found.
Dbl action sucks,
but single action is quite pleasing. Me rikey



Interesting marking on holster.

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Old 04-16-2018, 07:18 PM   #7
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I had one as my carry gun back when I had no money. Very accurate but I wanted something better for CC so I sold it.

I've sold at least 15 firearms and that's one of the few I regret selling




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Old 04-16-2018, 08:07 PM   #8
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Excellent pistol. Mines a 1968 and the trigger pull is actually not bad at all. For some reason the earlier models were pretty decent in DA. Single action, superb. I carry mine with the Underwood 95 gr. +P HPs.
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:19 PM   #9
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I really REALLY like those handguns.
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Hardest part was getting mag apart & reassemnled.
Looking forward to range session soon.
I'll post a report afterwards
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I had one. Saw a few range trips....wound up getting traded off.

With all the "wonder nines" out now, it really had no place for me anyways. Heavy for how small it is, snappy for something comparable to a 380, shit trigger pull, sights etc. But it was cheap and C&R so I gave it a shot (sub $200 TYD).

The CZ82 saw the bulk of the range time for that caliber.
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:57 PM   #12
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I had one. Saw a few range trips....wound up getting traded off.

With all the "wonder nines" out now, it really had no place for me anyways. Heavy for how small it is, snappy for something comparable to a 380, shit trigger pull, sights etc. But it was cheap and C&R so I gave it a shot (sub $200 TYD).

The CZ82 saw the bulk of the range time for that caliber.
^This describes exactly how I feel about mine. Been wanting a CZ82 and have been thinking about selling off the P64...

Hell, I had two Diamondback DB9's and a Diamondback DB380 I sold off after buying the P64. Nothing ever hurt my hands more than those Diamondbacks but they were great for concealed carry. However, the P64 is about the same size and a helluva lot more pistol quality-wise. So, sold the DB's.

But now...I've got a new girlfriend. A Taurus Spectrum. Call me ghey...but I'm digging the Spectrum. A lot. Real comfortable to shoot and even more concealable than the DB's or P64.
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Well, I bought it because I like surplus stuff and wanted something in 9mm Mak.
I already have two carry pistols, a lcp & G19.
Actually enjoy shooting my lcp, weird but im dead on with it.
I think this gun will wrk out for me just fine.
Plan on putting a lil' dab of white paint on front sight.
One question I have is why do ppl replace the recoil spring with a wolff xp?
Stockr ecoil spring feels plenty
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Excellent pistol. Mines a 1968 and the trigger pull is actually not bad at all. For some reason the earlier models were pretty decent in DA. Single action, superb. I carry mine with the Underwood 95 gr. +P HPs.
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One question I have is why do ppl replace the recoil spring with a wolff xp?Stockr ecoil spring feels plenty
It's a two part answer:
  1. The recoil spring is changed to an extra power spring because...
  2. The hammer spring is usually swapped out for a reduced power spring
Why?...because, the recoil and hammer spring work together in concert in a blowback pistol. If you decrease the weight of the hammer spring (to get a lighter trigger pull) you have to increase the weight of the recoil spring to keep the gun from battering itself to death. Remember...as the slide moves backwards, energy is absorbed by the hammer spring as the slide pushes and re-cocks the hammer. If you decrease the energy needed to re-cock the hammer, the slide is moving backwards with less resistance and greater speed, so to maintain the proper balance of slide speed and energy absorption, you have to increase the spring weight of the recoil spring (stiffer spring) if a lighter spring weight hammer spring is used.

There is absolutely no reason to use an extra power recoil spring in the pistol if you are keeping the stock hammer spring weight.
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^^Thank you for explaining.
I completely forgot about that, when you change to a lighter mainspring.
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Old 04-17-2018, 02:45 AM   #17
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The triggers are fantastic and they conceal better than even a snubnosed 38.

Fantastic guns, especially for less than a Hi Point. Congrats OP.
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Old 04-17-2018, 03:30 AM   #18
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I bought one last summer at swappers day with no paper work. It already had the springs replaced as well. Its one of my favorite shooters, plus it's easy to conceal in warm weather. Plenty of Red Army Standard mak ammo in my AO to boot! I should buy another one!
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I have one in my pocket right now. Picked it up from the Century "U-fix-it" department for $109, IIRC. "Fix" in this case was to buy a magazine for $17.
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Caution: word has it these are not meant to be drop safe when the hammer is down and the safety off.

http://www.p64resource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3147

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If the safety is OFF and you drop the gun directly on the hammer it very well could AD. With the safety on, the firing pin is protected by the safety block and cannot be struck by the hammer. I love my P64 and carry it everywhere but the PA-63 and R61 have a true firing pin safety that actually blocks the firing pin from moving forward unless th trigger is pulled. The P64 does not have that feature.
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I own three of these lovely little guns, but I won't carry something that isn't drop safe when I have other options, and (dis)engaging the slide mounted safety on a pocket pistol is way too slow. A damn shame.
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one of the most accurate pistols in its size class imo
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Caution: word has it these are not meant to be drop safe when the hammer is down and the safety off.

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I own three of these lovely little guns, but I won't carry something that isn't drop safe when I have other options, and (dis)engaging the slide mounted safety on a pocket pistol is way too slow. A damn shame.

Now, maybe I'm being a bit gruff, but why the hell are you dropping a pistol with the hammer back and the safety off?

I get that things get knocked over. Maybe it falls off the nightstand, but if it's not on your hip or in your hand, why is your safety off?!
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Now, maybe I'm being a bit gruff, but why the hell are you dropping a pistol with the hammer back and the safety off?

I get that things get knocked over. Maybe it falls off the nightstand, but if it's not on your hip or in your hand, why is your safety off?!
People drop things, especially in stressful situations which is why police and military make extensive use of lanyards and flap holsters, neither of which are implemented in conceal carry scenarios. Also, no one said anything about the hammer being back, it will fire if it is down.

In any event, why take chances? There are plenty of pocket pistols out there that can be dropped and absolutely will not fire. Why rely on "just dont drop it" when we all know shit happens? It's drop safe if the safety is engaged, but as noted before, why carry a defensive pistol with such a clumsy and slow to operate safety when there are better alternatives?
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I don't find the safety hard to operate at all, but I have larger hands
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I used one as my "warm weather" CCW for several years because it is a decent round when loaded with HP ammo and it is so darn small.

If you like the 9x18 round, which I do, it is a cool pistol.

The downside is it is a beast to shoot for such a small package.

It now sits safely locked away and I suspect it drinks allot of vodka along with the MAKs sitting in the same gun case.

I carry a 1911 commander model in 45ACP now more because of a change in travel patterns through some very ugly places and if I only have a few rounds, I wanted a larger caliber.
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I might get me a companion for this.
Dealer says vz50's are on the way...
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The beauty of the P64 is how thin it is, and how it is very smooth.
I paid $135 for mine, back when nobody wanted them.
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I might get me a companion for this.
Dealer says vz50's are on the way...
A 50/70 is on my current "want" list as well.

Always been fond of 7.65 for pocket guns, and need a few more to justify the VZ61 and keeping a good stock of an anemic caliber.
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I might get me a companion for this.
Dealer says vz50's are on the way...
Not an impressive gun. I'd pass unless you are stacked deep in .32 ammo already
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Im thinking about experimenting with Wolff springs.
On Mr GbG review he's running a 20lb mainspring and a 22lb recoil spring.
Im thinking about ordering and going with a 20/20 combo though. Im gonna be shooting mostly ppu.
My only concern would be some ppl reporting the Wolff recoil springs being a tad long and having to grind the end coil flat to fit.
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I might get me a companion for this.
Dealer says vz50's are on the way...
I also owed a CZ50 at one point. gave it to my Bro-in-Law.
I wouldn't mind having another sometime.
It looked like the little brother to my CZ52.
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Carried my P64 to dinner tonight. I love the little jewel. To me it's a work of art.
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I have the same wood grips on my 1975. They sell them on EBay
The metal is a real plum color that I love.
I put in a 18Lb hammer spring and 22 Lb recoil spring by Wolf, The DA is still heavy but a lot better than it was.

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Damn these guns are more popular than I thought.
They were selling quick at the lgs
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