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Old 02-12-2018, 04:02 PM   #1
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Default Thoughts on the M&P 15 Sport II?

I'm looking into getting my first AR and was wondering what people's thoughts on this one were. They're only asking for $461.
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They are GTG.

Just look it all over well and function test it.

If everything checked out then I would be taking it home.
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I'm looking into getting my first AR and was wondering what people's thoughts on this one were. They're only asking for $461.
Windham SRC for 498.

https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperst....cfm/ID/108741


Nicer than the sport by far and giving money to a company that isn't owned by freedom group.


Both Barrel and Bolt are individually tested and inspected and the barrel is air gauged tighter than mil spec. Only real downside is a commercial buffer tube and is an easy swap or just buy commercial stocks.


Mine has been extremely accurate even with wolf gold.
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Many LE Depts employ these rifles.

That should tell you enough
actually they employ the MP15's, not the sports. the Sports used a weaker barrel and a few other parts. Not saying they're not good guns, but are not the same as their upper tier brothers. I've had both and the 4140 barrel wears out a ton quicker, and their' bolts are different (different markings on them too)
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Old 02-12-2018, 04:57 PM   #6
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Ruger AR556 would be another good budget choice.
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Old 02-12-2018, 05:15 PM   #7
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PSA kit for $299 + Anderson receiver.
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Old 02-12-2018, 06:35 PM   #8
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Excellent entry level ar.
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Love my S&W AR...No complaints here. Good deal for the money.
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Good time to buy an AR
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:56 PM   #11
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Pretty damn impressive, damn.
Out performed other ARs in F/A.
It does come with a S/A carrier, however.

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Great rifle for the price. Buy w confidence
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I have a sport II as well, it's perfectly fine for plinking and self/home defense. You're not going to win a war with it but thats irrelevant anyway.

You would also be just as good with a Ruger AR556 for about 50 bucks less
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:04 AM   #14
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Id get the ruger for the chf barrel
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Old 02-13-2018, 06:48 PM   #15
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I don't have a Sport but I do have their standard M&P15 Optics Ready version. It come from the factory with a horribly canted gas block and took over 20-25 clicks of windage to get it sighted in. I did get it sighted, but looks kinda goofy with the rear sight drifted over so far. Been 100% reliable with brass cased Federal ammo. Nothing wrong with the Smith, but if I could go back and do it all over again, I'd just grab one of those OEM Colt 6920's and throw whatever furniture I'd want on it.

If you buy one, make sure everything looks straight. Pretty sure they have a lifetime warranty anyway if something comes up.
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Smith Sport is a very solid choice. In that same price range you could pickup a Ruger as well. Or for a few bucks less a basic PSA ,take your pick all three will serve you well.
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Before I decided to assemble my first AR, i gave the M&PII and Ruger556 a serious look. The M&P won out. Ruger uses a few items (non mil spec FSB, etc) that makes it not as desirsble as a M&P if you want to do some upgrades/mods to it. My opinion only.

I also dont understand the "its a plinker not a war winner" opinion some have regarding a 'budget' AR vs. a 'name-brand tactical badass' AR. I guess its the "Im a Spartan warrior now because I bought the name brand endorsed by tactical-beard operator guy" thought process...

Buy the M&PII, Smoking good price and plenty of 'AR' for us Non-Spartans
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:11 AM   #18
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Used to own Ruger AR556 which I had to sell last summer. Now again looking for a low budget AR, Ruger was nice and sort of prefer that but S&W would be available for layaway at LGS so maybe I go that route. Not really have the money yet but also afraid I would be missing the cheap AR boat... Not a huge fan of AR but here you need to own at least one and I like the versatility of the platform.
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PSA kit for $299 + Anderson receiver.
Or the stealth PSA receiver:

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my son won a M&P Sport AR-15 at a gun bash a few years back on a 5 dollar ticket. no issues and has run any kind of brass case .223 put through it.

i would say its a keeper.
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Old 02-14-2018, 07:36 PM   #21
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Windham SRC for 498.

https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperst....cfm/ID/108741


Nicer than the sport by far and giving money to a company that isn't owned by freedom group.


Both Barrel and Bolt are individually tested and inspected and the barrel is air gauged tighter than mil spec. Only real downside is a commercial buffer tube and is an easy swap or just buy commercial stocks.


Mine has been extremely accurate even with wolf gold.
S&W is not owned by the Freedom Group
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Way to many options that are a lot better for the money.

You can get a PSA mid length kit with 4150 nitride barrel, tested full auto BCG, and mil-spec parts.

All for $350.
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:29 AM   #23
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While I personally won’t own an AR with a Carbine length gas system unless the barrel is 14.5” or shorter... the M&P sport is a good little rifle to have laying around in the truck, at the house, etc...

Not my go to... I’d rather have a WASR, NPAP, etc... in that price range. But if you want a fun little AR that’s fairly reliable the M&P is a good choice. Especially for a first timer.

Easy upgrades down the road... even though they’re not “cool” anymore. Just add a little 7” free float rail, a better trigger, and a nicer BUIS for the rear sight. Throw on a red dot or magnified optic and it’s all you’ll ever need from an AR15.

The nice thing about cheap AR15’s is I personally don’t care what I feed them. My PSA and colt both ate steel case like nothing. I’m sure the M&P will eat it up too.
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:32 AM   #24
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I have a Ruger AR556 and it's an excellent firearm. Everything I've read about the S&W M&P Sport II indicates it's also an excellent firearms. Both are great values backed with good warranties. A better firearm, and by far a better value than either, is the Ruger AR556 MPR. It has a free-floating hand guard, a much better trigger, a treated CHF barrel, and a rifle-length gas system, all for about $80 more than either the original Ruger AR556 or the M&P Sport.

Add a set of open sights for $80, and if the Ruger bolt/carrier bothers you, get a FA bolt/carrier for another $80 (good to have an extra anyway). Much, much more rifle for negligibly higher cost. I can't think of any other popular upgrades missing from the MPR.

I wish I would've had the option at the time to buy the MPR instead of the original. I may still get one.
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Used to own Ruger AR556 which I had to sell last summer. Now again looking for a low budget AR, Ruger was nice and sort of prefer that but S&W would be available for layaway at LGS so maybe I go that route. Not really have the money yet but also afraid I would be missing the cheap AR boat... Not a huge fan of AR but here you need to own at least one and I like the versatility of the platform.
You are thinking the right way and making the right call. These prices will not last forever.

General inflation is once again showing up even in govt funny number stats and guns will disappear overnight if Trump gets wobbly and we lose in the midterms. I will be watching what Trump says over the next few days very carefully. Especially if/when he comes under criticism for not doing enough.

It's not even that I don't trust Trump. But how long can he resist Ivanka and Jared shooting after shooting? We know they are coming it's just a matter of time.
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The Sport ii has the dust cover and forward assist, but the original (Gen 1 SPORT) had a barrel so good for the price (1/8" 5R melonnite coated) that they now only put it on the higher costing M&P AR lineup, being the Sport was cheap and just as good as the ones that costed double and was hurting sales I heard, and it also had a Mil Spec buffer Tube to my memory.

Someone please chime in on the barrel and original buffer tube thing if I am wrong, as my memory is rusty but remember reading in depth when the Gen 2 came out.

I've heard the Sport ii is just as good as far as being a low costing AR that works great and better than competitors. It just has a 1/9" barrel and commercial buffer tube, yet doesn't lack the dust cover and forward assist that the first Gen did... Beats buying a DPMS, if you read in depth, the SPORT line has exceptional reputation all around.

If you can ever find an un-used 1st Gen that says "1/8 5R" on the barrel, grab it!

Also, these are overgassed (the have a midlength sized gas port I've heard) to run a variety of ammo so an H or H2 buffer won't hurt anything and will slow the cycle rate and make it run smoother.
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Ntrain I concur w you on the Sport 1. I have one and for a long time used it as my go to he gun. It's been awhile, but my recollection is that it has/had a commercial buffer tube. Kind of a pain in the butt as it's the only AR I have using one. Could have been a one off thing for them idk
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The Sport ii has the dust cover and forward assist, but the original (Gen 1 SPORT) had a barrel so good for the price (1/8" 5R melonnite coated) that they now only put it on the higher costing M&P AR lineup, being the Sport was cheap and just as good as the ones that costed double and was hurting sales I heard, and it also had a Mil Spec buffer Tube to my memory.

Someone please chime in on the barrel and original buffer tube thing if I am wrong, as my memory is rusty but remember reading in depth when the Gen 2 came out.

I've heard the Sport ii is just as good as far as being a low costing AR that works great and better than competitors. It just has a 1/9" barrel and commercial buffer tube, yet doesn't lack the dust cover and forward assist that the first Gen did... Beats buying a DPMS, if you read in depth, the SPORT line has exceptional reputation all around.

If you can ever find an un-used 1st Gen that says "1/8 5R" on the barrel, grab it!

Also, these are overgassed (the have a midlength sized gas port I've heard) to run a variety of ammo so an H or H2 buffer won't hurt anything and will slow the cycle rate and make it run smoother.
I think Gen1 had commercial tube with better barrel. No forward assist or dust cover.

Gen2 has “milspec” upper and buffer tube. Cheaper barrel.

At least I think that’s how it went...


The original 4150 nitride barrels were good. Similar to a ballistic advantage barrel I believe. Buddy has a gen1 M&P sport. A great shooter and does Sub MOA with most good hunting ammo. It’s his go to coyote rifle. I’ve offered to do an upper receiver swap for him so he can add the forward assist and dust cover. Just haven’t gotten around to it. A new upper is only $80-100 for a good one.
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For the $, I'd take a look at the colt OEM1, or the Aero precision OEM1....M&P is good but there are better options out there for similar $.
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Colt 6920 is much more solid for only a few dollars more.

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Colts are a good buy now. Can make them into a M4 clone for fairly cheap. Solid gun, will last a life time.

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Meh

Color me unimpressed.

Had one a friend bought jam up and it was brand new with a Magpul mag using brass ammo.
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They are good guns from what i hear. And every part can be changed out later on if you wanted to upgrade it to a higher tier.
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I had an M&P 15, don't waste your money, they are just a sporter rifle built with cheap parts! You are better off paying a little more and getting a Colt!
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I got that one wrong. Windham is still a much nicer rifle at the same money still.

You get a nicer BCG and barrel.
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