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Old 12-22-2017, 09:42 PM   #1
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Just released today. Another manufacturer trying to take on the G19. Good luck.

MSRP @ $379 will get some love.


https://ruger.com/products/security9...eets/3810.html
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Not quite as ugly as the RP9. I guess it has that going for it.
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Meh... Although I've had good luck every Ruger I've ever oned, this one looks like a turd to me. Just another plastic pistol in a sea of plastic pistols. Bring back steel and wood already.
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I dig it, looks nicer than the American.

Guess I'll continue putting off the Compact American 9mm and pick this up instead.
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I dig it, looks nicer than the American.

Guess I'll continue putting off the Compact American 9mm and pick this up instead.
The American is striker fired... This is hammer DAO... I rather have the American.
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:24 PM   #6
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The American is striker fired... This is hammer DAO... I rather have the American.
This is "something" fired.

It's labeled "hammer something", but looks like a striker design to me.
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The itty bitty hammer is probably concealed within the ass of the slide which would explain why it looks like a striker gun and not a traditional hammer
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Looks like its got the 1911 style mag release and a manual thumb safety. Forward serrations so you can press check like an operating SoB. No finger groves. The chamfered slide matches the frame. And they left off the little grove everybody hates about the glock gen5. #glockkiller
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The American is striker fired... This is hammer DAO... I rather have the American.

Hammer fired isn't a problem.

I like the American, but they're just kind of chunky looking.

I like the slimness of this new offering.

Ehhh, in no rush. I'll rent one and see how the trigger is and how it feels in my hands.
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:51 PM   #10
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I thought this was going to be a 9mm revolver, I'm a little let down.
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They need to rerelease the security six.
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Old 12-23-2017, 12:06 AM   #12
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Oh goody, a Ruger version of the SCCY.
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Just another plastic pistol in a sea of plastic pistols.
Unfortunately, same opinion. Dont like the square look of the grip either

RP9 looked cool to me but flames died out quick with it for the same reason this one will.
Too much of the same with slight groove changes just wont grab an anchor in the market

Tough market these days ...but price is good. I would try both
Time to introduce new designs is under Democrats and fear markets
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This is "something" fired.

It's labeled "hammer something", but looks like a striker design to me.
The website sez it's the system used in the LCP/LCPII so a tiny little internal hammer system. Meh, why not just lengthen the SR9C frame a bit? Helluva lot cheaper than designing a new gun.

OTOH, hammer pistols do seem to be making a comeback lately so maybe they want to tap into that market?
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Considering how excellent my Ruger SR9 and SR9c are, I'm sure this is completely GTG, but I'll probably not be selling my Glock 19 to get one.
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Just released today. Another manufacturer trying to take on the G19. Good luck.

MSRP @ $379 will get some love.


https://ruger.com/products/security9...eets/3810.html

Grip looks really slim to be a 15 rounder. Double checked the specs and that's what it says.

I daily CCW an LC9s Pro, and can't say enough nice things about it. Ruger makes a nice pistol, at a great price point.



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They need to rerelease the security six.
Look into one of these:

https://ruger.com/products/gp100Matc...on/models.html


Very similar handling to the old Security Six, with the half lug barrel.

I picked on up off GB last year for $600 shipped to my FFL.

It's a keeper.
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I love the match champion! I just need a blued one and I would be on it like stink on shit.
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I first thought that maybe they made a 9 shot revolver or made a shot gun from the title.

But this isn't bad looks kinda interesting.
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No way can that hold 15rds

Obvious Walther Creed ripoff with KelTec design internals....ugh
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When they could have just made a compact 9E...
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Hammer fired with redundant safety and no double strike capabilities. People, this is a 15rd KelTec. F Ruger.
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I love the match champion! I just need a blued one and I would be on it like stink on shit.
I have always thought some guns just look "right" in one finish but not the other.

To my eyes, the GP100 was meant to be stainless, not blued. The Python as well, God intended all Pythons to wear the Colt Royal Blue finish! I can't even imagine a .44 Automag in blue...
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This Ruger, while almost guaranteed to function flawlessly, has a very fatal flaw for me personally. I see no need for a safety at all, but to make it worse, it's only for right handed shooters. At least my SR9 and SR9c are ambi.
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I thought this was going to be a 9mm revolver, I'm a little let down.
Or 9 shot revolver as I did. Very disappointing. Too many plastiturds to keep track of. I really have no interest in another.
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I have always thought some guns just look "right" in one finish but not the other.

To my eyes, the GP100 was meant to be stainless, not blued. The Python as well, God intended all Pythons to wear the Colt Royal Blue finish! I can't even imagine a .44 Automag in blue...
You are correct about how you feel and AMT only made stainless firearms. All stainless all the time.
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They need to rerelease the security six.
Totally agree!

Last year I finally found a NIB Security Six 6" stainless.
Friggen love it!
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This. Still not better than the SR9 or even the E version.
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Meh, don't care.

Wake me up when Colts making python's again until then what do I need another pistol for.

When are these manufacturers going to cue into the fact that most us have already bought everything we need and already have go to brands that we trust, have experience with, and own accessories for. So for anyone to notice any new offerings they'd better be light years better than what I'm seeing here.
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This is antique tech right here. A Kel-Tec design made to hold 15rds and have a quicker reset. Meh, to the fullest
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Meh... Although I've had good luck every Ruger I've ever oned, this one looks like a turd to me. Just another plastic pistol in a sea of plastic pistols. Bring back steel and wood already.

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Meh, don't care.

Wake me up when Colts making python's again until then what do I need another pistol for.

When are these manufacturers going to cue into the fact that most us have already bought everything we need and already have go to brands that we trust, have experience with, and own accessories for. So for anyone to notice any new offerings they'd better be light years better than what I'm seeing here.
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Hammer fired with redundant safety and no double strike capabilities. People, this is a 15rd KelTec. F Ruger.
What you gun nuts with several $400-$1000+ handguns and/or rifles do not understand is that there's a huge market of people who can't afford to spend that amount of money. A lot of them do not own one firearm let alone several.

Ruger is targeting that crowd, and not us. The proof? Look how well and how many thousands of Taurus PT111 G2s have sold over the past few years. Heck, they were so cheep, even I purchased one as a beater gun even though I own other guns with better fit and finish. At around $200, I might even pick up one of these up... Back when Obama just came into office, guns like these went for $300-$400, now, even with s little inflation, they're practically giving these away...

Why is everyone bitching? More guns and more competition equals better prices and more options for us consumers. Not everyone likes Glocks, M&Ps, or the other ruger offerings, so just maybe, this new Security 9 will fit their hand and preferences better.... So what if the Security 9 is similar to another? Maybe a consumer might find the look of the Security 9 more attractive.....

As to bringing back pistols of the past, I'm sure Ruger didnt discontinue them because they were selling too many of them for huge profits...

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At around $200, I might even pick up one of these up...

Why is everyone bitching?
you already can, the SCCY with manual safety. Same gun internally.

Everyone is bitching because instead of perfecting the gun designs they already have they put out crap like this that is a rebadged Kel-Tec that no one should have an interest in. If they would have just done the American properly the Fire Control chassis would have swapped into the Compact and the full size and there would have been other color frame options just like Sig Sauer did but Ruger is too stupid to figure that out. Having the FCU incompatible with both sizes was a complete engineering gaffe
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you already can, the SCCY with manual safety. Same gun internally.

Everyone is bitching because instead of perfecting the gun designs they already have they put out crap like this that is a rebadged Kel-Tec that no one should have an interest in. If they would have just done the American properly the Fire Control chassis would have swapped into the Compact and the full size and there would have been other color frame options just like Sig Sauer did but Ruger is too stupid to figure that out. Having the FCU incompatible with both sizes was a complete engineering gaffe
Excellent post about Ruger's short-sightedness and stupidity.
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you already can, the SCCY with manual safety. Same gun internally.

Everyone is bitching because instead of perfecting the gun designs they already have they put out crap like this that is a rebadged Kel-Tec that no one should have an interest in. If they would have just done the American properly the Fire Control chassis would have swapped into the Compact and the full size and there would have been other color frame options just like Sig Sauer did but Ruger is too stupid to figure that out. Having the FCU incompatible with both sizes was a complete engineering gaffe
I already seen on other forums and a couple of YouTube videos where people are expressing interest and want to buy this gun over guns you think they should buy with upgrades you personally think Ruger should have made. That's the beauty of choice in the sea of plastic pistols. Just because the Security 9 isn't up to your or other forum members standards and isn't what you all want, don't for one second think it's not what someone else wants and will buy.

If Ruger made a mistake, the market will expose it, and these won't sell. I'm betting, to your dismay, these will sell very well.

I also don't know why we are talking about the RAP? This gun was clearly created to be at a price point and to target a buyer who doesn't care about having all the bells and whistles you want. You aren't going to get a firearm with a removable chassis and everything the RAP has for around $200... Apples and oranges sir.. And just because Ruger released this pistol doesn't bar them from upgrading the RAP in the future. This pistol and an upgraded RAP can coexist you know? They are two different products aimed at two different markets.

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I also don't know why we are talking about the RAP? This gun was clearly created to be at a price point and to target a buyer who doesn't care about having all the bells and whistles you want. You aren't going to get a firearm with a removable chassis and everything the RAP has for around $200... Apples and oranges sir.. And just because Ruger released this pistol doesn't bar them from upgrading the RAP in the future.
1. Those people are morons who don't understand that this gun is a KelTec in disguise. You should inform them of that so they don't piss away their hard earned dollars

2. You must be confused about the Ruger American. It was designed for the MHS handgun trials. I have no idea where the $200 you are talking about is coming from. They already blew it on the RAP, no reason to upgrade it in the future. It's ship has sailed due in MAJOR part to Ruger engineers being so GD dumb in the first place. It was all right there for the taking, they just continually F'd it up and will continue to do so. God damn it, I wish just one time I could sit in these design meetings and shed some common sense and actual market demand that they clearly don't realize will help sell buttloads of guns.

It's just like with S&W. It seriously took them to late 2017 to realize they needed to produce an M&P the exact same size as the G19 which has been kicking their ass for years and years. Judas Priest man...MORONS!
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