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Old 04-19-2017, 07:42 PM   #1
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Default Opinion on Lapua .223

I always like to devote a bit of the ammo budget to precision ammo and I've heard good things about their ammo for Finnish M39's. Most .223 target ammo seems to be heavier grain. I would say 90% of my 5.56/.223 ammo is 55gr so theoretically this would allow me to keep the same zero. It's around $.60 a round so not too crazy, and I'm sure the brass is good for reloading. Looking forward to your opinions.





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Old 04-19-2017, 07:47 PM   #2
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At .60 per round, buy all you can afford. The brass usually cost that much!
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Old 04-19-2017, 08:00 PM   #3
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You better hurry. There are 12 less 50 round boxes in stock....LOL

If you buy 600 rounds, it's .60 per round after shipping.

And it appears it may ship in a wooden crate!
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Old 04-19-2017, 09:41 PM   #4
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I don't understand paying that kind of money for FMJ ammo?

What kind of accuracy can you expect?

I pay that much for reloaded 68g BTHPs .223 and can get 3/4" groups with my 18" free floated PSA Premium. Thats at 100 yards, good conditions, and with a 3 shot groups. I don't know if it's because I am impatient or crack under pressure but after posting that group size, shot 4 and 5 always open up the groups.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:01 PM   #5
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Mighty pricy indeed. Wolf gold at Sportsmans Guide was 27.7 cents/rd delivered just a day ago. That ammo shoots as good as my AR is gonna do.
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:58 PM   #6
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Anything Lapua makes will be top notch
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:24 PM   #7
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I don't understand paying that kind of money for FMJ ammo?

What kind of accuracy can you expect?

I pay that much for reloaded 68g BTHPs .223 and can get 3/4" groups with my 18" free floated PSA Premium. Thats at 100 yards, good conditions, and with a 3 shot groups. I don't know if it's because I am impatient or crack under pressure but after posting that group size, shot 4 and 5 always open up the groups.
If you load precision ammo, you need good brass and this FMJ is already loaded for fire forming to the chamber at a cost of the brass alone.
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:53 AM   #8
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So then I should get this ammo for my SAR3?
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:12 AM   #9
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Buy some Geco 223.
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Old 04-23-2017, 09:44 AM   #10
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The Lapua is super premium ammo.

The Lapua ammo is almost twice the price of the IMI same thing, is it TWICE as good?

I don't think so.

Especially if you are just going to shoot it out of a AR or an AK.

You would need to be shooting the Lapua ammo out of a bolt action rifle to realize any advantages to the ammo. Namely increased case life for reloading. Ammo fired out of semis has a fairly short life, no matter who made the brass.
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Old 04-23-2017, 09:48 AM   #11
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I don't understand paying that kind of money for FMJ ammo?

What kind of accuracy can you expect?

I pay that much for reloaded 68g BTHPs .223 and can get 3/4" groups with my 18" free floated PSA Premium. Thats at 100 yards, good conditions, and with a 3 shot groups. I don't know if it's because I am impatient or crack under pressure but after posting that group size, shot 4 and 5 always open up the groups.
If you can't shoot 10 round groups that are tight it is most likely you losing or failing to maintain control over your breathing, sight picture, trigger pull and positioning of the rifle.

3 shot groups are just a matter of luck, not skill.
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Old 04-23-2017, 12:23 PM   #12
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It's not necessarily you... Shots 4 and 5 (and 6-10 if you choose) are just growing your sample size to where it's starting to tell you what the gun is really capable of.

There's a reason gun-rag writers go with 3 shot groups.

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Old 04-23-2017, 01:08 PM   #13
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It's not necessarily you... Shots 4 and 5 (and 6-10 if you choose) are just growing your sample size to where it's starting to tell you what the gun is really capable of.

There's a reason gun-rag writers go with 3 shot groups.

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Yeah, the reason is called advertising.

Gun mags are useless sources of information unless its an NRA publication and even then, suspect.

There is a REASON competition shooting is 10 round groups.
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:54 PM   #14
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The Lapua is super premium ammo.

The Lapua ammo is almost twice the price of the IMI same thing, is it TWICE as good?

I don't think so.

Especially if you are just going to shoot it out of a AR or an AK.

You would need to be shooting the Lapua ammo out of a bolt action rifle to realize any advantages to the ammo. Namely increased case life for reloading. Ammo fired out of semis has a fairly short life, no matter who made the brass.
I agree, 100%
In the case of this ammo deal, and I do plan to use it in a bolt action, 600 rounds of loaded ammo from SGAmmo is actually cheaper than buying 600 pieces of unprimed brass from Powder Valley.
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Old 04-24-2017, 07:27 PM   #15
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They and norma make the best brass.

It might not be worth it to some especially if there rifle is not capiable but for those who want the best or shoot competion then there is not much better you can start with.

In my Target AKs I can show group differances from win vs rem brass.

Uniformity is key. It's not just capacity it's about neck tension, being concentric, primer hole being the same and other things that do make a differance.

Almost all records are set with Lapua or Norma brass.
There is a reason it's better.

I can't say all there brass is match grade but they don't make crap.
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Old 04-29-2017, 07:43 AM   #16
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A target AK? Is there really such a thing as a precision AK or precision AK ammo?

I'm not trying to be a smartass, I just don't want to be ignorant.
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