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Old 03-11-2018, 02:28 PM   #1
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In the past 6 months I have added laser sights to two of my pistols to help my old eyes out, so I was wondering who else may be using them and why.

The two pistols I have added lasers to are my SAR K2 45 using a rail mount laser and my Zenith (Tisa) M45 with a LaserLyte 1911 grip/trainer.

Both are red lasers.
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Old 03-11-2018, 03:46 PM   #2
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Old 03-11-2018, 03:53 PM   #3
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I have a old set of ctc grips on my 1911-22. Don't really help all that much all the time. In odd light they are great. bright daylight not so much. Do help on overcast days and on those occasions i'll shoot limited and open class at the same shoot by turning it on. I get to shoot that much more is really about it.

Oh and teasing the hellouta the cat. It's good for that too.
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Old 03-11-2018, 06:33 PM   #4
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Have a C/T Railmaster on an AR, have a S&W 640 I bought with C/T grips on it
they are on a shelf off gun. Found them to large for pocket carry .
Considering one for a dedicated car gun. Think if your vison is crappy without
glasses like mine is and or need to use the gun in less than ideal position its
a valid tool to have in your box. As long as your buying quality products its worth while.
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Old 03-11-2018, 10:51 PM   #5
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I am carrying a pistol with laser right now.
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I have one on my HD shotgun as it came bundled w the flashlite I use w it. I think it would be extremely useful and or mandatory on something like the new Shockwave shotguns tha are pistol grip only
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I've 8 pistols equipped with them all but one is a CT. Also 7 rifles equipped with lasers 3 are CT IR Railmasters, 3 CT railmasters visable red and one green in a Streamlight tlr2g. My father who's ex SF turned me onto CT laser grips years ago and now they go on just about every pistol.
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Old 03-13-2018, 09:43 AM   #8
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I always have found them to be distracting and make me over think when aiming because you try and keep the laser steady on a mark the size of a dime.
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Yes, have a few Crimson Trace, not because I need it, because I LIKE IT
Every pistol would have one if I could get them cheaper in bulk at Costco....lol

Plus the wife can keep her defense pistol tucked in to her bosom and not wobble as much under duress
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Have them on a lot of rifles as well for certain purposes

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I always have found them to be distracting and make me over think when aiming because you try and keep the laser steady on a mark the size of a dime.
Same thing, although for me the main problem was when I was practicing shooting fast doubletaps. I spent way more time aiming with laser than without one, always sort of trying to find the laser first and then aiming it at the target. I had green laser on my Shield40, took it off after couple of months because of that problem.
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I always have found them to be distracting and make me over think when aiming because you try and keep the laser steady on a mark the size of a dime.
For range sessions, I don't use it for EXACTLY that reason......

However, for defensive purposes, it will be close range, and easy ID to hit center of mass of a man
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For range sessions, I don't use it for EXACTLY that reason......

However, for defensive purposes, it will be close range, and easy ID to hit center of mass of a man
You know I was thinking about that when I took the laser of my Shield. The way I thought about it is that if you are so close that you really can't raise the gun to use the sights, then the laser is not needed since you can just as well just point your gun, pull the trigger and you will hit the target.

I was practicing close range hits without aiming, both with handguns and also my AKs.I noticed that after some practice I was able to hit pretty small areas with for instance with my AK without using the sightpicture, "instinct"shooting.That was pretty effing fun and surprising to see the results.

I can see the benefits of lasers, but for me the problem is that I don't know how to use them...Concentrating too much on that laser and not fast enough shooting the target.
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I've found that bullets work much better out of my gun.
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Same thing, although for me the main problem was when I was practicing shooting fast doubletaps. I spent way more time aiming with laser than without one, always sort of trying to find the laser first and then aiming it at the target. I had green laser on my Shield40, took it off after couple of months because of that problem.

Same here. Had a green Laser on my Sig SP2022 for a few months, and then took it off.

I found that I was faster on target without the Laser.

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Old 03-14-2018, 05:08 AM   #18
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I have a laser on my Shield. See the dot, pull the trigger. Nothing to over think, and it's as simple as that...

For defensive purposes, I can point and shoot if the threat is very close, and neither the laser or sites will be used. If I have time, I can use my sights, and the laser will not be used. If I'm firing from a weird angle and/or where I can not align my face behind the sights, my laser will be utilized. It may not be all that useful or fast when shooting at inanimate targets that don't shoot back. It may not be better than using sights when bullets aren't coming back at you, and you can stick your head out without fear of being shot. With that said, there are situations where one method maybe more helpful than others... Just because the laser is on the gun doesn't mean you HAVE TO use it all the time and in ever situation....

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I have CT grips on a Kimber Micro 9 that came with the gun. For rough targeting at bad breath distances, it works fine. Anything beyond that, I use the sights.
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The great thing about this conversation is there really are no wrong answers.

What I have found is I adjust the laser to show just above the front sight post in my "sight picture" at the 5-7 yard distance I would expect in a self defense situation.

Doing this allows me to validate the impact point of the round to the steel sights and laser. What I have found is by doing this, my old eyes are capable of some very tight groups with the limited amount of "live fire" time I get each month.

My primary targeting method practiced is steel sights first, then laser if needed. When I practice, I practice both methods so both come natural and do not require thought to execute.

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I have a laser on my Shield. See the dot, pull the trigger. Nothing to over think, and it's as simple as that...
Yes, in theory..In reality my brain is not functioning like that, I'm "overthinking". I have heard from some other shooters also that they have the same problem with lasers. I'm much better off with a weaponlight, it gives me general direction and my brain is not "overthinking" and following it like laser, I can be very fast with a weaponlight. Not with laser.

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... Just because the laser is on the gun doesn't mean you HAVE TO use it all the time and in ever situation....
At least the laser I had on my Shield was really difficult not to turn on, the switch was (of course..) placed so that when you gripped the gun it switched the laser on. Was quite awkward grip if I tried to shoot it without touching the switch.
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I have crimson trace grips on my sig 1911 when it was my HD gun in San Diego. Never really used them, not at the range not really ever. They could be useful in low light but now I mostly see it as a waste of money, but it’s a pretty neat waste of money and I do like how they feel on the gun
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At least the laser I had on my Shield was really difficult not to turn on, the switch was (of course..) placed so that when you gripped the gun it switched the laser on. Was quite awkward grip if I tried to shoot it without touching the switch.
Yea but even if it is actuated, you can still point and shoot or just focus on your sights instead of looking for the dot.
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