Scope possibilities for TWS rail

nick05sti · 07-22-2012, 03:47 PM

Just got the TWS dog leg on my mak-90. Love the fit and finish. Looking to get some kind of scope now. I was thinking 3x or 4x magnification. A scope with a wide range of view is a plus too. Don't have any preferences at the moment so if you have any ideas I would like to hear them!

HPP · 07-22-2012, 04:27 PM

Burris 1-4 MTAC I think it's 300bucks.

MontanaGrant · 07-22-2012, 07:56 PM

I got a Nikon Monarch 1-4X on it. A little big and almost too much eye relief.

My recomendation: Weaver Classic 1-3 or a Bushnell Elite 1.25-4X. Got both in sidemounts, good scopes.

nick05sti · 07-22-2012, 09:50 PM

A few people that I have talked to about scope options have told me that the ak "47" will break the scopes because of its recoil. Is this really a problem!?

HWI · 07-22-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nick05sti

A few people that I have talked to about scope options have told me that the ak "47" will break the scopes because of its recoil. Is this really a problem!?

Only if you are buying some airsoft shit.

boamedt · 07-23-2012, 11:54 AM

I put a sh**y $30 red from walmart on my amd pistol, with the tws, just to see how long it would last......lol three shots and the red dot was in the upper right corner and wouldnt move...lol it was just for fun

ironhead7544 · 07-23-2012, 07:40 PM

I like the 2x or 1x3, and 1x4 scopes. I have a Primary Arms 1x4 that has a great field of view (90 ft at 100 yrds) but is a little big. The Weaver 1x3 seems ideal. If you dont want a variable, a 2x shotgun scope would be my choice. Get a good quality one as they are built rugged to take the recoil of a 12 ga slug.

CPL_Primeaux · 07-24-2012, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by boamedt

I put a sh**y $30 red from walmart on my amd pistol, with the tws, just to see how long it would last......lol three shots and the red dot was in the upper right corner and wouldnt move...lol it was just for fun

It must have been really shitty . I had a Tasco red dot from wal mart. $40 . Had it on an SKS for 3 years before I put it on the AK. Had it on the AK a few months but I like open sights better on AKs. Unless I TWS it and go ACOG but Im not really a red dot fan on AKs. Anyway. I still have the red dot and it still works just fine.

John07425 · 07-24-2012, 08:05 PM

You might want to check out Primary Arms Compact 3x Scope. Its made for an AR, but I just bought one for my AK, didn't see any reason it wouldn't work. The reticle is nice, it can illuminate. It's about 180 bucks so it's cheaper than some of the other options out there. It has a lot of good reviews. And it's only about 5 inches long, so it's pretty small. I THINK the feild of view is only 35 feet at 100 yards tho, but don't quote me on that. It's fixed power too, btw.

MontanaGrant · 07-25-2012, 01:00 PM

please let us know how it works, along with a picture! I was considering one, but decided against it, because I thought that with it's high-base it would be too high to be comfortable.

nick05sti · 07-29-2012, 11:39 PM

I can't decide. I was thinking about the tru glow shotgun 4x but its not variable. I don't want something huge either.... Tough decision

MontanaGrant · 07-30-2012, 05:32 PM

Truglo's aren't real tough. A step above BSA/NCstar,etc. but still not super. Considering you spent $150+ for the TWS..

Weaver V3 1-3X=$150
Sightron S1 Fixed 1X $140
Vortex Strikefire Red dot+2X magnifier: $150
Primary Arms 1-4X $120
Nikon P-223 fixed 3X. $150
Decent scopes, and as cheap as I'd go. Just because cheap scopes have a way of biting you in the butt

20nickels · 07-30-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MontanaGrant

Truglo's aren't real tough. A step above BSA/NCstar,etc. but still not super. Considering you spent $150+ for the TWS..

Weaver V3 1-3X=$150
Sightron S1 Fixed 1X $140
Vortex Strikefire Red dot+2X magnifier: $150
Primary Arms 1-4X $120
Nikon P-223 fixed 3X. $150
Decent scopes, and as cheap as I'd go. Just because cheap scopes have a way of biting you in the butt

I have to agree with MG. Good optics are pricey but worth it.

Cy4ka · 07-31-2012, 12:02 AM

I put a BSA red dot on a WASR and it wrecked it. Lol, won't hold zero and the dot only appears in between clicks and only sometimes :P

nick05sti · 08-08-2012, 01:31 AM

Think I'm going with the weaver 1-3x guys. A little bummed it isn't illuminated. Can you guys recommend any good mounts to go on the tws rail?

rlmono · 08-11-2012, 03:36 PM

i know you are looking at less magnification, but i love this setup!

its a burris e1 2-7x with adm qd scout mount. a match made in heaven....

MontanaGrant · 08-11-2012, 06:30 PM

Nice setup! I've got a Burris FF2 3-9 in a Midwest Industries siderail. Been seriously thinking about switching toa 2-7 to save a fraction of weight/size and get a wee larger FOV at low setting.

codycr6 · 08-12-2012, 07:19 PM

rlmono · 08-13-2012, 10:39 AM

nice rifle man.... m10 right???? i would also like my front sight moved back to the gb. cut, crown, thread and pin fh since we cant have sbr in mich!( .... however, my rifle is considered a pistol here because of the folding stock...

the mi xrail is hot shit, i want one but ended up going with the tws. mine actually loosened at the hinge screws when i was sighting in the scope. i think the extra weight had something to do with it. a little loctite and im good to go.

i have never owned a 3x9 but it is on my purchase list. with the scope and fully loaded metal mag im about 9.5 pounds. the 2x7 fit nicely, i think with a 3x9 one might need a bit of a rise to get the bell above the rsb. next up is a 1x4, thats for sure....

codycr6 · 08-13-2012, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rlmono

nice rifle man.... m10 right???? i would also like my front sight moved back to the gb. cut, crown, thread and pin fh since we cant have sbr in mich!( .... however, my rifle is considered a pistol here because of the folding stock...

the mi xrail is hot shit, i want one but ended up going with the tws. mine actually loosened at the hinge screws when i was sighting in the scope. i think the extra weight had something to do with it. a little loctite and im good to go.

i have never owned a 3x9 but it is on my purchase list. with the scope and fully loaded metal mag im about 9.5 pounds. the 2x7 fit nicely, i think with a 3x9 one might need a bit of a rise to get the bell above the rsb. next up is a 1x4, thats for sure....

Yes, M10. I went MI rail for the easy transition to irons... often carry the carbine with the optic off and in it's bag. Goes on when I am calling predators and such, or after wild boar.

Ar5enal · 08-16-2012, 09:02 PM

I bought a Mueller 1-4x and I have to say I love it. The reticle is illuminated and is daylight visible. The scope is not milspec by any means but has been pretty tough so far.

rlmono · 08-16-2012, 09:35 PM

Cool man! I was looking at the specs. Looks interesting, are there no crosshairs, only a red dot?

Ar5enal · 08-16-2012, 10:15 PM

Yes sir, just a dot. I think its 4 moa. Another cool feature is that the dot is etched in the glass, so when its off you still have a black dot. Not the easiest thing to pick up on dark backgrounds but better than nothing I suppose. Its also pretty damn close to a true 1x with no blurred edges. I'd post a pic but they always come out so damn big.

rlmono · 08-17-2012, 12:46 AM

Ok great, that's what I was getting at. Good to hear, I prefer an optic that still works without batteries. Nicely done and surely noted, thanks!

codycr6 · 08-28-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rlmono

Ok great, that's what I was getting at. Good to hear, I prefer an optic that still works without batteries. Nicely done and surely noted, thanks!

I prefer something that works without batteries as well, I was torn between a red dot and a low powered magnified optic. Finally went magnified

07-22-2012, 03:47 PM	#1
nick05sti New Member AKaholic #: 160239 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: orlando fl Posts: 24	Scope possibilities for TWS rail Just got the TWS dog leg on my mak-90. Love the fit and finish. Looking to get some kind of scope now. I was thinking 3x or 4x magnification. A scope with a wide range of view is a plus too. Don't have any preferences at the moment so if you have any ideas I would like to hear them!

08-11-2012, 03:36 PM	#16
rlmono Light Bringer AKaholic #: 156108 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: FEMA Region 5 Posts: 971	i know you are looking at less magnification, but i love this setup! its a burris e1 2-7x with adm qd scout mount. a match made in heaven.... __________________ ..........I find your lack of faith disturbing..........

08-12-2012, 07:19 PM	#18
codycr6 New Member AKaholic #: 159740 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Mississippi Posts: 10	Leupold 2x7

08-13-2012, 10:39 AM	#19
rlmono Light Bringer AKaholic #: 156108 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: FEMA Region 5 Posts: 971	nice rifle man.... m10 right???? i would also like my front sight moved back to the gb. cut, crown, thread and pin fh since we cant have sbr in mich!( .... however, my rifle is considered a pistol here because of the folding stock... the mi xrail is hot shit, i want one but ended up going with the tws. mine actually loosened at the hinge screws when i was sighting in the scope. i think the extra weight had something to do with it. a little loctite and im good to go. i have never owned a 3x9 but it is on my purchase list. with the scope and fully loaded metal mag im about 9.5 pounds. the 2x7 fit nicely, i think with a 3x9 one might need a bit of a rise to get the bell above the rsb. next up is a 1x4, thats for sure.... __________________ ..........I find your lack of faith disturbing..........

08-16-2012, 09:35 PM	#22
rlmono Light Bringer AKaholic #: 156108 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: FEMA Region 5 Posts: 971	Cool man! I was looking at the specs. Looks interesting, are there no crosshairs, only a red dot? __________________ ..........I find your lack of faith disturbing..........

07-22-2012, 04:27 PM	#2
HPP Member AKaholic #: 19940 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 182	Burris 1-4 MTAC I think it's 300bucks.

07-22-2012, 07:56 PM	#3
MontanaGrant Senior Member AKaholic #: 139659 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MT Posts: 694	I got a Nikon Monarch 1-4X on it. A little big and almost too much eye relief. My recomendation: Weaver Classic 1-3 or a Bushnell Elite 1.25-4X. Got both in sidemounts, good scopes.

07-22-2012, 09:50 PM	#4
nick05sti New Member AKaholic #: 160239 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: orlando fl Posts: 24	A few people that I have talked to about scope options have told me that the ak "47" will break the scopes because of its recoil. Is this really a problem!?

07-23-2012, 11:54 AM	#6
boamedt New Member AKaholic #: 161505 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Santa rosa, ca Posts: 18	I put a sh**y $30 red from walmart on my amd pistol, with the tws, just to see how long it would last......lol three shots and the red dot was in the upper right corner and wouldnt move...lol it was just for fun

07-23-2012, 07:40 PM	#7
ironhead7544 Senior Member AKaholic #: 11440 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 512	I like the 2x or 1x3, and 1x4 scopes. I have a Primary Arms 1x4 that has a great field of view (90 ft at 100 yrds) but is a little big. The Weaver 1x3 seems ideal. If you dont want a variable, a 2x shotgun scope would be my choice. Get a good quality one as they are built rugged to take the recoil of a 12 ga slug.

07-24-2012, 08:05 PM	#9
John07425 Member AKaholic #: 85903 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Kansas City, Kansas Posts: 68	You might want to check out Primary Arms Compact 3x Scope. Its made for an AR, but I just bought one for my AK, didn't see any reason it wouldn't work. The reticle is nice, it can illuminate. It's about 180 bucks so it's cheaper than some of the other options out there. It has a lot of good reviews. And it's only about 5 inches long, so it's pretty small. I THINK the feild of view is only 35 feet at 100 yards tho, but don't quote me on that. It's fixed power too, btw.

07-25-2012, 01:00 PM	#10
MontanaGrant Senior Member AKaholic #: 139659 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MT Posts: 694	please let us know how it works, along with a picture! I was considering one, but decided against it, because I thought that with it's high-base it would be too high to be comfortable.

07-29-2012, 11:39 PM	#11
nick05sti New Member AKaholic #: 160239 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: orlando fl Posts: 24	I can't decide. I was thinking about the tru glow shotgun 4x but its not variable. I don't want something huge either.... Tough decision

07-30-2012, 05:32 PM	#12
MontanaGrant Senior Member AKaholic #: 139659 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MT Posts: 694	Truglo's aren't real tough. A step above BSA/NCstar,etc. but still not super. Considering you spent $150+ for the TWS.. Weaver V3 1-3X=$150 Sightron S1 Fixed 1X $140 Vortex Strikefire Red dot+2X magnifier: $150 Primary Arms 1-4X $120 Nikon P-223 fixed 3X. $150 Decent scopes, and as cheap as I'd go. Just because cheap scopes have a way of biting you in the butt

07-31-2012, 12:02 AM	#14
Cy4ka Banned AKaholic #: 158050 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Behind You Posts: 5,602	I put a BSA red dot on a WASR and it wrecked it. Lol, won't hold zero and the dot only appears in between clicks and only sometimes :P

08-08-2012, 01:31 AM	#15
nick05sti New Member AKaholic #: 160239 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: orlando fl Posts: 24	Think I'm going with the weaver 1-3x guys. A little bummed it isn't illuminated. Can you guys recommend any good mounts to go on the tws rail?

08-11-2012, 06:30 PM	#17
MontanaGrant Senior Member AKaholic #: 139659 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MT Posts: 694	Nice setup! I've got a Burris FF2 3-9 in a Midwest Industries siderail. Been seriously thinking about switching toa 2-7 to save a fraction of weight/size and get a wee larger FOV at low setting.

08-16-2012, 09:02 PM	#21
Ar5enal Member AKaholic #: 161974 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 296	I bought a Mueller 1-4x and I have to say I love it. The reticle is illuminated and is daylight visible. The scope is not milspec by any means but has been pretty tough so far.

08-16-2012, 10:15 PM	#23
Ar5enal Member AKaholic #: 161974 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 296	Yes sir, just a dot. I think its 4 moa. Another cool feature is that the dot is etched in the glass, so when its off you still have a black dot. Not the easiest thing to pick up on dark backgrounds but better than nothing I suppose. Its also pretty damn close to a true 1x with no blurred edges. I'd post a pic but they always come out so damn big.

08-17-2012, 12:46 AM	#24
rlmono Light Bringer AKaholic #: 156108 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: FEMA Region 5 Posts: 971	Ok great, that's what I was getting at. Good to hear, I prefer an optic that still works without batteries. Nicely done and surely noted, thanks! __________________ ..........I find your lack of faith disturbing..........

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