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Old 07-02-2018, 06:13 PM   #1
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Default Magpul Pmag problem.

Has anyone else had an issue with PMags in their 74 where the bolt rides completely over the rounds and doesnít even attempt to feed them? I tried a Pmag yesterday and it just flat out might as well have not even been in the rifle. I verified that the magazine was inserted correctly and worked the charging handle over and over again. Never fed a round. The bolt didnít even touch the top round. The rifle is a Bulgarian kit built on a Morrissey receiver, and it works perfectly fine with the variety of surplus magazines I have as well as with new production Bulgarians and Tapcos.
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Old 07-02-2018, 07:49 PM   #2
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This may not be a PMAG issue.

Does it work in other -74s?
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:08 PM   #3
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I’ve had this issue in my AK Pmags in 7.62x39

AES-10B had it one time on a 30rd mag
Galil ACE, used a 20rd Ak mag, jammed 2-3 times exact same way as you described each time, one 30rd mag that I tried did work though

AK’s are naturally overgassed and Magpul didn’t seem to take that into account, the magazines don’t feed quickly enough, end with how much AK’s vary in tolerances/builds/quality it could be more prone to issues
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Old 07-02-2018, 09:14 PM   #4
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I just tried it in another 74. Same result. I took the magazine out of the rifle and then heard the rounds “click” back into place against the feed lips shortly after. I guess that’s the difference between trying at the range and in a quiet room. So what’s happening here is rounds are being pushed down by the bolt when the magazine is inserted, and the follower isn’t pushing them right back up as soon as the bolt pressure is off of them.
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Old 07-02-2018, 09:22 PM   #5
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Have two of the magpul AK74 mags and both work fine in my Bulgarian AK74 kit gun on a Nodak receiver.
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Old 07-02-2018, 09:39 PM   #6
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The WASR 2 I used to have did the exact same thing with pmags. My SLR104 works perfectly with them though.
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Old 07-03-2018, 04:31 PM   #7
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Maybe work a little material off the top of the feedlips,

Worked for my MAC 10/9... But actually, I'm being serious here too. It's just plastic and raising the bullet up to the bolt...

Just thinking out loud to help...

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Maybe work a little material off the top of the feedlips,

Worked for my MAC 10/9... But actually, I'm being serious here too. It's just plastic and raising the bullet up to the bolt...

Just thinking out loud to help...

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Grinding the feed lips isn't gonna change where the locking lugs are allowing the mag to go ( the OP is having "bolt override syndrome" )
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Old 07-04-2018, 06:37 AM   #9
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haven't had a issue with my 8 ak74 pmags, they work great
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Old 07-04-2018, 07:23 AM   #10
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10 here with no issues.
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Old 07-04-2018, 05:47 PM   #11
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4 or 5 here and no issues with 3 diff 74s.
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Old 07-04-2018, 11:07 PM   #12
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I'm tracking,

Maybe from the bottom of the lips!

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Old 07-05-2018, 01:25 AM   #13
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I know 7.62x39 pmag followers ride in a grove? If the 74's do too , it might be binding somewhere. Check the follower and the rails inside ?
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On the 7.62x39 versions, I have seen the spring get on the outside of the follower. It can make for a slow/sticky follower.

Take them apart and make sure the spring isn't causing the binding. Also make sure there isn't plastic or something else causing a bind.
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never understood why people dont just use something that is battle-proven, reliable and available
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Old 07-05-2018, 12:51 PM   #16
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never understood why people dont just use something that is battle-proven, reliable and available
And expensive
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whats the rate for a 74 used mags nowdays? like an East German or Plum Russian?

i'll go check out the marketplace
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looks like you can still get bulgy mil-spec steel reinforced mags for around 30 bucks

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/777344525

appears the prices did climb a but, but deals are still out there.


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And expensive
1+ don't get me wrong I like the quality $45+ mags but its hard to stock up on those when you can get 5 mags that have worked great for me for the same price.... Im new to the ak74's and I have 9 "quality ((10))((21))" mags, I plan on getting 7 for each but in due time, I have 8 magpuls and 3 tapcos that I have never had one hiccup with.. so im not in a rush to pay top $ for the quality mags
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whats the rate for a 74 used mags nowdays? like an East German or Plum Russian?

i'll go check out the marketplace
that's still in bid im sure it will go up... I think actual price for a good new is around $40 and used around $35 I would jump on... they have some nice scrubbed ones for 35 on here but of course im strapped for cash right now
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so 35 used 40 new.

not too terrible.
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That's about what I have been seeing in the market, of course less for used beat up mags
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i still see almost brand new EG bakes with pouch, spoons going for around 120$

guy had a couple at the gunshow not too long ago
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