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Old 03-14-2019, 10:45 PM   #1
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Default Everything you needed to know about stock piling ammo



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Thanks for posting!
I like short math and I've been searching for a few years for a viable SHTF realistic gauge for ammo to stockpile. I also very much enjoyed the common sense and simplicity of how to survive. The history lessons were a bonus.
This should be mandatory 4th grade reading material BTW.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:37 AM   #3
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Personally I'd be stacking away a case a month (or more) for when russian ammo inevitably gets sanctioned. SHTF or not, the ammo will not be around forever.
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Informative video, thanks for sharing.
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Personally I'd be stacking away a case a month (or more) for when russian ammo inevitably gets sanctioned. SHTF or not, the ammo will not be around forever.
That’s not a bad point.

As for the video, his reference to the Wild West ammo usage is bumpkis. They had far more land with far fewer people and far slower shooting and reloading weapons. A more modern and realistic scenario would be studying Selmo Begovic’s writings. Selmo also dispels his bias against bartering with ammo.
Additionally, comparing current self defense and/or police shootings usually involving 1:1, 1:2 or 2:1 encounters isn’t a good idea. If things were as sideways as they could be, consider the numbers involved in the mass melees in Berkeley et al a couple years back. It’s likely to be something more along the lines of small fireteams up to platoon sized groups.
All that being said, his hunting estimates are likely spot on. Except for the fact you’ll still have to defend yourself and your kills, so...
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That was a bit shocking. Ammo prices like gun prices never seems to go down. Anytime I find a deal on either I buy.
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That was a bit shocking. Ammo prices like gun prices never seems to go down. Anytime I find a deal on either I buy.
Ammo price never go down? Have you been living under a rock for the past 3 years?
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Ammo price never go down? Have you been living under a rock for the past 3 years?
I guess I need to clarify, in general ammo and gun prices donít go down. At least ammo worth stock piling unless itís .22lr. Any caliber combloc ammunition has most definitely not seen a decrease in value.
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I guess I need to clarify, in general ammo and gun prices donít go down. At least ammo worth stock piling unless itís .22lr. Any caliber combloc ammunition has most definitely not seen a decrease in value.
Meanwhile, pretty much every other meaningful widely use cartridge has been dropping in price significantly in the past 3 years. 12ga, 9mm, 5.56x45, .308/7.62x51, etc. etc.
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I don't trust anyone who actual says the letters SHTF.
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Lost me right after his poorly though out reasons for stockpiling. What happened to political climate leading to prohibition?

Also as far as how much you need? One word TRAINING.

Total dumb ass, or useful idiot if you ask me.
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Entertaining with some good points.

Not info to live by though
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I actually viewed the entire video. Some interesting statistics as presented. Could have also been presented by some Deep State Operative, FBI or ATF Propaganda Developer.
What ever one's reasons for acquiring ammo, for most people, it is based on resources (ie; money) and perceived long term need.
Personally, I would like enough ammo stockpiled to be able easily to dole out tens of thousands of rounds at a time to friends relatives and fellow patriots when and if things turn south or the balloon goes up.
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Meanwhile, pretty much every other meaningful widely use cartridge has been dropping in price significantly in the past 3 years. 12ga, 9mm, 5.56x45, .308/7.62x51, etc. etc.
Yeah, and only because Sandy Hook has finally stopped influencing the market.

And, that fact that the school shooting in Florida, really didn't cause a scare because we have Trump in office, same for the Las Vegas shooting.

If that mosque shooting had happened here, and not in New Zealand, the cost of any ammo would be up 10 percent by tomorrow.
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Yeah, I keep a little bit of ammo socked away for a rainy day ...



Just enough to get by maybe ...
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Of course it couldn't hurt to get as much as you can because buying in bulk can save money in the long run ...

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Yeah, and only because Sandy Hook has finally stopped influencing the market.

And, that fact that the school shooting in Florida, really didn't cause a scare because we have Trump in office, same for the Las Vegas shooting.

If that mosque shooting had happened here, and not in New Zealand, the cost of any ammo would be up 10 percent by tomorrow.
Regardless the reason why, he said it never goes down in price which is clearly false. Additionally, a lot of it is cheaper than pre-Sandy Hook. Especially if you factor in inflation.
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All fakking bs!
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The main reason to stockpile ammo is to have it to practice if for some reason you can't get it anymore. For instance, I liked (and still like) to plink the day away with my Mosins. For many years you could get spam cans of 54R for dirt cheap. Now, you can't and 54R is pretty expensive. But since I stacked back then, I can still enjoy my Mosins without fretting about paying .50 cpr. Same goes for 7n6, even though commercial 5.45 isn't prohibitively expensive. I like to actually use my firearms regularly, not just bury them or lock them in a dark corner for, as the video says, S H T F.

If you only keep 100 rounds per firearm, and ammo for some reason goes away, sure, you can defend yourself, but you ain't ever firing for practice or fun again.
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The main reason to stockpile ammo is to have it to practice if for some reason you can't get it anymore. For instance, I liked (and still like) to plink the day away with my Mosins. For many years you could get spam cans of 54R for dirt cheap. Now, you can't and 54R is pretty expensive. But since I stacked back then, I can still enjoy my Mosins without fretting about paying .50 cpr. Same goes for 7n6, even though commercial 5.45 isn't prohibitively expensive. I like to actually use my firearms regularly, not just bury them or lock them in a dark corner for, as the video says, S H T F.

If you only keep 100 rounds per firearm, and ammo for some reason goes away, sure, you can defend yourself, but you ain't ever firing for practice or fun again.
Exactly! I also looked into my crystal ball and saw the future of price increases, changing political winds , availability and as an investment opportunity. Worked out very well.
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Damnit Black Blade. Every time you post those pics it makes me think I need to buy more ammo.

Currently thinking I need more .223/5.56.
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If you go too enough estate sales, you may need to reconsider how
much ammo and guns you want to stockpile.
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I just moved and didn't trust anyone else to move my guns and ammo and that was a quick lesson but with the shooting in NZ and I thought a good deal on PSA I keep changing my mind.
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Regardless the reason why, he said it never goes down in price which is clearly false. Additionally, a lot of it is cheaper than pre-Sandy Hook. Especially if you factor in inflation.
Stop being a pedantic putz; we all understood what he meant.
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I was buying over a case a month for over 3 years leading up the the 2016 election and only stopped when CA made it more difficult. In less then 2 months I will be in my new house in Arizona and will start buying a case or more a month for years to come.

I have tried to limit the calibers but they have grown to 10.
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I was buying over a case a month for over 3 years leading up the the 2016 election and only stopped when CA made it more difficult. In less then 2 months I will be in my new house in Arizona and will start buying a case or more a month for years to come.

I have tried to limit the calibers but they have grown to 10.
Where in AZ do you think you are going? Make sure you have back support.



I am finding ammo sales more addicting than guns lately.
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I am sure 2 mags of ammo might be enough ... That is also maybe? "true" if you are practicing 3-4 times a month or shooting sports events. Also two mags of ammo is enough to bypass any possible ammo shortages or price spikes, just get yourself pinky Butterfly catcher and you are all set!!!

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All fakking bs!
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Absolutly! Optionally call Hillary and she will teach you on how many rounds of ammo you might need ...
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I can't believe he uses the old stupid argument of "don't barter anything that can be used against you." That's pretty much everything. Virtually anything can be used against you if the person you're bartering with has bad intentions. Food, batteries, ammo, a piece of pipe, screws/bolts, etc. They can all be used against you. Perhaps not quite as directly and immediately as ammo, but the argument is full of holes.

Let's game this out. So you trade someone some food in a barter. Seems harmless, but the person you traded it to then offers it to someone who's starving if they'll kill you. Maybe the innocent seeming fasteners you traded were the last thing the other person needed for their siege engine or for their steam powered vehicle and they're going to turn around and use it against you. Maybe the batteries you traded are for the NV goggles they're going to use to rob you that night.

The rule should be, "don't barter with anyone you don't trust."
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I am finding ammo sales more addicting than guns lately.
San Tan Valley Basically Queen creek Only 47 more days to go
Yeah there is something about getting a case or two delivered that makes me feel warm inside.
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Lost me right after his poorly though out reasons for stockpiling. What happened to political climate leading to prohibition?

Also as far as how much you need? One word TRAINING.

Total dumb ass, or useful idiot if you ask me.
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Set up his set of parameters with dubious validity. Tell everyone else they're wrong.
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I wonder about his “the average gunfight is 2.4 rounds fired”. So no need to stockpile?

The average soldier never fires his rifle in combat....but you better believe the military “stockpiles” ammunition. No one prepares for the “average”.
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I don't believe any of that. I believe the stats but that can't be used to measure future needs.

If things go south like many predict they will, what you have will be all you will have. In other words, when the time comes you need and use your stockpiles of preps, it will be a burning fuse.

I believe if this happens it wont be like anything anyone has ever seen and it will rewrite everything.
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