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akmcollector89 · 06-08-2012, 01:36 AM

the atf defines fully automatic as multiple projectiles with one trigger pull. if you rigged multiple rifles to one trigger would it be considered a restricted item requiring a tax stamp? the idea is utterly useless but i just wondered

Sweersa · 06-08-2012, 11:29 PM

I don't think so because I believe some shotguns have two barrels that can fire simultaneously with one trigger pull and they are unrestricted.

muffmeister · 06-08-2012, 11:58 PM

I think most double barrel shotguns that you can fire both barrels at the same time use double triggers. Could be wrong though.

Sneakers1971 · 06-09-2012, 12:20 AM

I have wonderd the same thing, Red Jacket did the siamieese(spelling?)
M16, each one worked off the others gas feed. In reality its still semiauto fire?

KernelKrink · 06-09-2012, 12:44 PM

The RJ "Triamese" was a FA because the rifles that fired on their own had to have a FA sear setup to function. The individual rifles at least would have had to have been registered.

Many setups exist to mount 2 rifles together and usually a hand crank setup is used to trigger them in sequence. The trigger on the setup is used in conjuction with the crank. "Manually operated" and legal.

As for the same setup where just pulling the trigger would fire both guns, then release to reset? I guess it would depend on if ATF considers the setup 2 guns or attaching them together makes them 1. Sounds like you would need a determination on your particular setup.

Sweersa · 06-09-2012, 03:47 PM

If you plan on doing this, send a letter to the ATF technical branch.

06-08-2012, 01:36 AM	#1
akmcollector89 Senior Member AKaholic #: 160501 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: va Posts: 641	got a good one for ya! the atf defines fully automatic as multiple projectiles with one trigger pull. if you rigged multiple rifles to one trigger would it be considered a restricted item requiring a tax stamp? the idea is utterly useless but i just wondered __________________ your living in a dream world

06-08-2012, 11:29 PM	#2
Sweersa Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 157316 Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA MI Posts: 4,911	I don't think so because I believe some shotguns have two barrels that can fire simultaneously with one trigger pull and they are unrestricted. __________________ So be it, threaten no more To secure peace is to prepare for war So be it, settle the score Touch me again for the words that you'll hear evermore... Don't tread on me

06-09-2012, 12:20 AM	#4
Sneakers1971 Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 157433 Join Date: May 2011 Location: US, Pennsylvania, Roaring Spring PA. Posts: 2,150	I have wonderd the same thing, Red Jacket did the siamieese(spelling?) M16, each one worked off the others gas feed. In reality its still semiauto fire? __________________ "There are no good guns. There are no bad guns. Any gun in the hands of a bad man is a bad thing. Any gun in the hands of a decent person is no threat to anybody.........except bad people." -Charleton Heston "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not" -Thomas Jefferson

06-09-2012, 03:47 PM	#6
Sweersa Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 157316 Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA MI Posts: 4,911	If you plan on doing this, send a letter to the ATF technical branch. __________________ So be it, threaten no more To secure peace is to prepare for war So be it, settle the score Touch me again for the words that you'll hear evermore... Don't tread on me

06-08-2012, 11:58 PM	#3
muffmeister Member AKaholic #: 161570 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: hoyt ks Posts: 93	I think most double barrel shotguns that you can fire both barrels at the same time use double triggers. Could be wrong though.

06-09-2012, 12:44 PM	#5
KernelKrink Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 2036 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,555	The RJ "Triamese" was a FA because the rifles that fired on their own had to have a FA sear setup to function. The individual rifles at least would have had to have been registered. Many setups exist to mount 2 rifles together and usually a hand crank setup is used to trigger them in sequence. The trigger on the setup is used in conjuction with the crank. "Manually operated" and legal. As for the same setup where just pulling the trigger would fire both guns, then release to reset? I guess it would depend on if ATF considers the setup 2 guns or attaching them together makes them 1. Sounds like you would need a determination on your particular setup.

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