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Old 05-09-2017, 10:12 PM   #36
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Worried about that safety going thru your hand on the Mossy? or Nah?
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Old 05-09-2017, 11:11 PM   #37
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Worried about that safety going thru your hand on the Mossy? or Nah?
No, the safety will not go through your hand! Unless of course, you lubed your hand up with caster oil just prior to shooting , then you have something to worry about.
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The 590A1 also has a heavier barrel than the 590. I had my 590 upgraded to 590A1 51663 specs a few years ago.

Here is a great video of the 51663 in action:
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I believe the factory 590 shockwave is a heavy barrel already at least that's how they are being marketed.
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:18 AM   #39
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The 590A1 also has a heavier barrel than the 590. I had my 590 upgraded to 590A1 51663 specs a few years ago.

Here is a great video of the 51663 in action:
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590 Shockwave has the heavier a1 barrel cut to 14 inches
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:19 AM   #40
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I believe the factory 590 shockwave is a heavy barrel already at least that's how they are being marketed.
590 Shockwave comes with the heavier a1 barrel cut to 14 inches

I've got mine in hand.
Not just marketing, it's real!
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590 Shockwave comes with the heavier a1 barrel cut to 14 inches
The heavy-walled barrel makes a lot of sense to tame that 12 gauge recoil. This gun was already going to be pretty light with its aluminum receiver, short barrel and no butt stock.
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Old 07-01-2017, 03:13 PM   #42
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I just purchased the TAC-14 at Trinity Ordnance in Lake Worth Texas yesterday. They had 2 so now they have one left. I had mixed emotions regarding the Tac over the Mossy. I think the mossy might be better over all but I have been carrying 870s for over 30 years and felt the familiarity would be the way to go. I will put a +1 mag tube extension on it but that will add to the cost compared to the mossy.
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These cool "not" shotguns with 14" barrels are a cool novelty. I can't see getting one though. I'm pretty happy with standard 18" - 26" barrels and normal stocks. Just call me "Fudd."
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Old 07-02-2017, 07:25 AM   #44
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all Mossberg for me just put mine on layaway yesterday at the shop I work at.cant wait to pick it up
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I'll probably buy one in a year when they are sitting on every shelf for cheap
This is my plan for the Tac-14. I decided to sell the Shockwave because I felt the Tac-14 would be a better SBS. The Remington OEM metal folding stock is light years ahead of the shitty ATI folding stock.
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I just picked the Shockwave over the Tac. The Tac did feel quite a bit heavier because of the steel receiver. Action was a little smoother.

I just felt the Shockwave has more to offer at a better price. The Tac looked cheap to me with no holes drilled and tapped. And not taking the mag tube to the end is just plain stupid. Probly some engineer out of college made that stupid decision.

Also, safety being right on top is way handier on pistol grips for Mossbergs. Just is.

I love the little package, although its only about 4" shorter than my 20" 500 with a pistol grip. In a go to situation I'm grabbing the 20" for the 9 rounds.

By the way, I like 870's as well. Just bought a Marine Police model. Awesome action. Very smooth. Once again, wish the receiver was drilled and tapped.
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I'll probably buy one in a year when they are sitting on every shelf for cheap
They are $340 now for the Shockwave. It's a buyers market NOW! I don't see them becoming much cheaper if at all.
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Yeah, I got one before the atf steps in and makes these a tax stamp.
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Yeah, I got one before the atf steps in and makes these a tax stamp.
They can't do that without Congress enacting some new legislation. The Shockwave and Tac 14 adhere to current law.
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Remington has a $50 mail-in rebate for the Tac-14. Around here, both the Shockwave and Tac-14 are retailing for the same price, $399. Next weekend is tax-free weekend, so I'm picking up the Remington (I've used 870s most of my adult life) for $399 out the door, then a $50 rebate from Remington.

P.S. - A +1 extension from Wilson Combat is $45.

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Been waiting to get one of these for years.

Who is selling them at the best price right now?
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You can get the shockwave for $360 on gunbroker. No fees $17 ship. I see no point in Remington's $50 rebate if you have to pay $50 for a mag extension. Just a dumb move by Remington
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Remington has a $50 mail-in rebate for the Tac-14. Around here, both the Shockwave and Tac-14 are retailing for the same price, $399. Next weekend is tax-free weekend, so I'm picking up the Remington (I've used 870s most of my adult life) for $399 out the door, then a $50 rebate from Remington.

P.S. - A +1 extension from Wilson Combat is $45.
You sure? I searched to see if it included the Tac 14, but found nothing... The Moss is $30 cheaper than the Remy... [edit] see below...

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You can get the shockwave for $360 on gunbroker. No fees $17 ship. I see no point in Remington's $50 rebate if you have to pay $50 for a mag extension. Just a dumb move by Remington
KyGunCo has both the Tac-14 for $357.99 and Shockwave for $359.99 both SHIPPED! If there really is a $50 rebate for the Remy Tac, that'll bring the price to $307.99.

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Old 08-20-2017, 08:39 PM   #54
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You sure? I searched to see if it included the Tac 14, but found nothing... The Moss is $30 cheaper than the Remy... [edit] see below...


KyGunCo has both the Tac-14 for $357.99 and Shockwave for $359.99 both SHIPPED! If there really is a $50 rebate for the Remy Tac, that'll bring the price to $307.99.
Yes, then after you get your rebate you still have to buy a mag extension and drill and tap the receiver. Just not as good as the Mossberg all the way around.
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Yes, then after you get your rebate you still have to buy a mag extension and drill and tap the receiver. Just not as good as the Mossberg all the way around.
Why would you have to drill and tap the receiver?
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You don't. I just think it's lazy not to by Remington. It's like not putting a side rail optic mount on an ak.
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Don't forget to add your FFL's transfer fees to the equation, which for me is another $25. I tend to purchase guns from my local dealers when they normally stock them. Six months ago, I had five dealers within 10 miles, now it's down to two. It would be pretty rude to order a gun for a cheaper price than what my dealer has on the shelf, especially when it's only about a $17 difference.
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Don't forget to add your FFL's transfer fees to the equation, which for me is another $25. I tend to purchase guns from my local dealers when they normally stock them. Six months ago, I had five dealers within 10 miles, now it's down to two. It would be pretty rude to order a gun for a cheaper price than what my dealer has on the shelf, especially when it's only about a $17 difference.
If your dealer really wants to make the sale, he can lower his price $17.
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Transfers around me only charge $15 to conceal carry holders. If I can dodge the sales tax I do every time. I also don't feel sorry for them. They made a killing the last 8 years
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Don't forget to add your FFL's transfer fees to the equation, which for me is another $25. I tend to purchase guns from my local dealers when they normally stock them. Six months ago, I had five dealers within 10 miles, now it's down to two. It would be pretty rude to order a gun for a cheaper price than what my dealer has on the shelf, especially when it's only about a $17 difference.
$17 is $17. Not rude at all. Let capitalism work for you! It won't always be a buyers market. Save all the $17 you can!!
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The Pawn shop I use is killing it. They only charge $15 when other stores are $20-$40.

When I picked up my shockwave, the lady told me its been crazy. She had 9 other shockwaves waiting to be picked up. She said their store room is packed with transfers. If they do 15 a day that's $1500 a week. Why even deal your own guns anymore.
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No, the safety will not go through your hand! Unless of course, you lubed your hand up with caster oil just prior to shooting , then you have something to worry about.
The Shockwave safety cut up my old ladies hand.

To me, the Tac-14 makes for a better SBS with the OEM folding stock. The Shockwave would be a better SBS with the Hogue 12" LOP stock. I don't want to pay $200 to lose 4", so I sold the Shockwave and will grab a Tac-14.

For most people, they view these as non-NFA firearms. I view them as a great base for an SBS.
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I put my order in for the Mossberg with the marinecote receiver. It was a little extra, but I can't be having my aluminum receiver rust on me while I'm out at sea.
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I picked up a TAC-14 a few weeks ago and sent the SBS form 1 in a few days later. The wait is so long and it is so neat the way it is, I almost decided not to send in the form 1. However, I had already bought the stock and know I will like it a lot, so I sent it in.

I added an aluminum follower and Volquartsen extractor.



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I picked up a TAC-14 a few weeks ago and sent the SBS form 1 in a few days later. The wait is so long and it is so neat the way it is, I almost decided not to send in the form 1. However, I had already bought the stock and know I will like it a lot, so I sent it in.

I added an aluminum follower and Volquartsen extractor.



That thing is gonna be pretty awesome, looks like it would be very handy
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I picked up a Mossberg Shockwave from the LGS. I have since added the Mesa Tactical adapter and a Shockwave Armbrace, GGAAZ Side Saddle, and the XS Big Dot tritium front sight. I'm just waiting for my GGG AZ mount for a Inforce WML, and it will be complete. These additions are completely legal and actually make the Shockwave or a Tac-14 a much more usable weapons system.

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I picked up a Mossberg Shockwave from the LGS. I have since added the Mesa Tactical adapter and a Shockwave Armbrace, and the XS Big Dot tritium front sight. I'm just waiting for my GGG AZ mount for a Inforce WML, and it will be complete

My Sirearms ZVER semi-auto "firearm" should be here next week!
That adapter looks like it puts the trigger 3" above the spot where it's supposed to be compared to the grip. Is it comfortable at all to shoot? And you're a brave man shooting a 12ga with the shockwave brace anywhere near your shoulder. Either brave or stupid. I don't know how you plan to shoot that thing to make use of the fancy front sight, but I can imagine it'll put your shoulder or face behind the gun. With the absence of padding, and the cross section of slim brace and buffer tube, I wouldn't want to be behind the gun when it goes off.
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That adapter looks like it puts the trigger 3" above the spot where it's supposed to be compared to the grip. Is it comfortable at all to shoot? And you're a brave man shooting a 12ga with the shockwave brace anywhere near your shoulder. Either brave or stupid. I don't know how you plan to shoot that thing to make use of the fancy front sight, but I can imagine it'll put your shoulder or face behind the gun. With the absence of padding, and the cross section of slim brace and buffer tube, I wouldn't want to be behind the gun when it goes off.
The trigger is perfectly positioned, no problems at all. I have found the Shockwave Brace when properly positioned in the pocket of your shoulder is no big deal to shoot. It has much less felt recoil than my Benelli M1 Super 90. That "fancy front sight" works very well too. It actually is better because it is much taller than the factory bead. Oh and by the way, I'm NOT stupid, I just know the proper way to fire a 12 gauge firearm.
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