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Old 09-29-2017, 10:33 PM   #1
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May sound dumb, but I want to change the look on my pap 92 hand guard. Thought the type they wrap on motorcycle pipes. Give it a tuff look. Anyone done this? Or any suggestions.
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Hmmmm
Maybe Plasti-Dip or that spray on rubberized undercoating?
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Hello Kitty stickers will toughen it up
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I think that Spongebob duct tape will help hold in the heat almost as good as the heat tape, and looks MUCH more L33T...
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OP, if serious, just keep in mind that heat wrap can hold moisture in as well. I've seen people unwrap a thing or two to find some unexpected rust. Just a heads up.
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OP, if serious, just keep in mind that heat wrap can hold moisture in as well. I've seen people unwrap a thing or two to find some unexpected rust. Just a heads up.
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OP, if serious, just keep in mind that heat wrap can hold moisture in as well. I've seen people unwrap a thing or two to find some unexpected rust. Just a heads up.
Yeah, I'm serious! I read were you can put it inside under the hand guard to help with hand guard getting to hot. Just thought it might look good rather than just having the look of wood or plastic.
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Yeah, I'm serious! I read were you can put it inside under the hand guard to help with hand guard getting to hot. Just thought it might look good rather than just having the look of wood or plastic.
If it's "inside under the hand guard", who's gonna see it?
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Hello Kitty stickers will toughen it up
I'm not a dip shit thanks. But I'm sure your pink guns are so cool.
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If it's "inside under the hand guard", who's gonna see it?
I said I read were that had been done to keep the hand guard from getting to hot. Any other astute words of wisdom or observations your Highness.
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for the tuff look you should try plaid, lumberjack boots, skinny jeans and a beard.
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Not sure about all brands of the exhaust wraps, but the Thermo Tec and DEI brands are hell on bare skin. I've used both for my Mustang and on a Harley and even with nitrile gloves the fiberglass fibers will stick in your hands. To me , it's worse than hanging insulation. I couldn't imagine putting it on the handguard of a rifle. Maybe the new stuff doesn't have the fibers like the stuff I used, but I would caution against doing this.
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Not sure about all brands of the exhaust wraps, but the Thermo Tec and DEI brands are hell on bare skin. I've used both for my Mustang and on a Harley and even with nitrile gloves the fiberglass fibers will stick in your hands. To me , it's worse than hanging insulation. I couldn't imagine putting it on the handguard of a rifle. Maybe the new stuff doesn't have the fibers like the stuff I used, but I would caution against doing this.
Damn, an honest reply, Thanks. Just that I'd play around with the pap. I wouldn't do anything to the wood stock on my Atlantic Firearms converted VEPR. Although I do like the vinyl infidel stickers,ha,ha.

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Not sure about all brands of the exhaust wraps, but the Thermo Tec and DEI brands are hell on bare skin. I've used both for my Mustang and on a Harley and even with nitrile gloves the fiberglass fibers will stick in your hands. To me , it's worse than hanging insulation. I couldn't imagine putting it on the handguard of a rifle. Maybe the new stuff doesn't have the fibers like the stuff I used, but I would caution against doing this.
This. I've put it on a few exhaust systems before. It is misery on your skin.
Just get some synthetic replacements stocks and paint them up.
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Old 09-30-2017, 01:03 PM   #18
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I did stain the hand guard, I think I'll just leave it alone and let it get that beat up look, since it's going to be a beater/ truck gun. I baby my AK. Now if it were a shtf situation, I wouldn't think twice about it getting banged up or looks.
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You can line the insides of your handguards with aluminum tape; it does keep them from heating as fast, at the expense of reflecting heat back to the barrel and out the vents. May want to wear an Ove-Glove.
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Yeah, I'm serious! I read were you can put it inside under the hand guard to help with hand guard getting to hot. Just thought it might look good rather than just having the look of wood or plastic.
I use aluminum tape/ cool tape or what ever that thing called from auto parts store.
Was able to go through more mags before saying "fuck its hot", but it wasnt much. Problem is not in insulating, problem is in getting the heat out from there. If before you had a hot handguard, now you will have hot hanguard + hot heat shield.
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The hand guards are to vent the heat so why would you want to hold heat on the bbl?
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The hand guards are to vent the heat so why would you want to hold heat on the bbl?
I wouldn't want to. The Yugo has three slot vent, I don't think it it would effect the barrel heat wise adversely by having tape on the wood? Don't know?
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Wasn't burlap used to wrap sniper rifles years ago?

As for muffler bandage, most of the new stuff has fiberglass but when I was just a kid I remember using some stuff on my first car to wrap an exhaust pipe that was just a cloth type bandage soaked in some kind of resin material. Not sure if that's still available but I'd look at maybe making it yourself. Maybe get some burlap or coarse spun fabric, and some shellac, varnish or other resin type material. Soak the cloth and wrap it and let it dry. I'd get some scrap wood and practice before trying it on hand guards.
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Wasn't burlap used to wrap sniper rifles years ago?
Yes, but not for heat mitigation.
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Wasn't burlap used to wrap sniper rifles years ago?
Still in practice as far as I know. We made our own personal ghillie suits and matching rifle covers out of it. That was back in the 80s though up in Pendelton camp Margarita. I guess it was "years ago" for some of you young bucks. Not quite as 'old' as dirt though.

As explained......not for heat mitigation. Matter of fact.....that shit was real hot in the California sun
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OP, I use the heat tape from automotive stores to keep my handguards cooler. Works pretty well for normal firing but if you are doing mag dumps - the shit's gonna get hot no matter what. As far as keeping heat in and not allowing the HG's to vent, I can't see what difference it would make from either standard HG's be they wood or polymer w/ heat shield. The physical structure of the HG vents is not changed so it's going to shed heat about as well as it would without it. The tape just keeps the HG from absorbing so much heat in the first place. The way the HG's are designed sucks for trying to shed heat from that area, anyway.

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http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174159

I have refined my process a little since I posted this but you'll get the idea.
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Drill the top of the handguard like a cheesegrater: 6 lines of 10 holes, best done precisely with a drill press, on a 3/4"-dia dowel in a vice to keep everything straight.
Vents heat but the wood still insults.
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your handling sonny.....

Vents heat but the wood still insults.

And how you handle it.


To the OP. I am going to guess English/American is not your first language?

But I have used this with great success on polymer//plastic lower handguards.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Just clean the area with alcohol and test fit it to make sure you like the layout and then peel off the cover and press to shape.

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If you are wanting to change the exterior look you could get some carbon fiber cloth and laminate it to the handguards with clear epoxy resin. Or add some tint to the resin in your favorite color. Might look ok.

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[Depends on whose "WOOD"] you're handling sonny.....
Vents heat but the wood still insulates.
And how you handle it.
Excuse my occasional miss-typing/spelling too, Mr. wood-handling Sandusky.

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...But I have used this with great success on polymer//plastic lower handguards.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Just clean the area with alcohol and test fit it to make sure you like the layout and then peel off the cover and press to shape.
Now this does help on the lower.
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That's what heat wrap will get you. Better than the sound of subs rumbling a trunk eh?
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May sound dumb, but I want to change the look on my pap 92 hand guard. Thought the type they wrap on motorcycle pipes. Give it a tuff look. Anyone done this? Or any suggestions.
I don't think the OP asked about managing heat, he just said he wanted to change the looks.
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