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Old 08-11-2018, 03:51 PM   #1
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My wife and I were hiking in some state land this morning up in Northern Michigan with our 2 dogs. About an hour into our hike our dogs surprised a big black bear in heavy brush. Dogs were about 10 meters from the bear. We were about 15.

Wife yelled "bear" and called the dogs back to us. Both dogs followed directions perfectly. We proceeded to "speed walk" the opposite direction to get as much distance between the bear and us. The only firearm we had between us was my .38 5-shot revolver. She had an air horn. Neither was needed.

Fortunately, the bear just ambled across the trail without a care in the world. We, on the other hand, hauled ass to the car!

Everything ended well, but next time we need to do a better job of being louder on the trail so as not to surprise a bear AND carry more substantial firearms. I'm even thinking this incident could be the perfect excuse for a Mossberg Shockwave, or a .44 magnum revolver. Jus' sayin!
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I was running the firebreaks behind Camp Buckner at the USMA and had one amble out of the brush and across the firebreak. I skidded to a stop and said bear, to myself. lol The bear didn't even look in my direction and just walked right on up the side of the hill.

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Old 08-11-2018, 04:14 PM   #3
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Glad everyone is OK.
When dogs get involved, things can go south in a hurry.
Sounds like you did a damn good ob training them.
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Black bears aren't usually aggressive toward people, with rare exception.

But having said that, I'm glad you've reconsidered your choice of having only a .38 in a place like that.
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for a black bear I wouldn't have been to worried. That bear was more scared of you and the situation than you were of it. Let the dogs bark. That bear will tree itself soon enough with barking dogs. Now a brown bear is a whole different world. All bets are off with a brown. You need to be the one up a tree.
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Actually black bears can be predacious whereas brown bears are defensive.

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I am always armed here in the NC mountains. a 9mm or a .38 beats a sharp stick
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I am always armed here in the NC mountains. a 9mm or a .38 beats a sharp stick
I didn't realize we had such a large bear population on the eastern side of the Cape Fear River.
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Black bears aren't usually aggressive toward people, with rare exception.
Where I live, you can't even let your kids play outside in the yard unless you're outside watching them armed.

When bears are so protected by the state that they lose their natural fear of humans, aggressive behavior towards humans becomes regular.

It was so bad that the bears determined that my back yard and garbage bin was their territory, not mine.

And about a mile away from there, I have photos of just shy of 20 bears that live on the property where our cabin is on the trail cameras.

Over population and hunger and wild animals never make a good combination. Don't ever think that black bears are harmless and will run from you. In most states, especially KY, NC, TN around the smoky mountains and others, bears have no reason to be afraid of humans.

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you coulda been massaging your wifie on a bear skin rug in front of the fireplace right now...

but glad you're safe.
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My wife and I were hiking in some state land this morning up in Northern Michigan with our 2 dogs. About an hour into our hike our dogs surprised a big black bear in heavy brush. Dogs were about 10 meters from the bear. We were about 15.

Wife yelled "bear" and called the dogs back to us. Both dogs followed directions perfectly. We proceeded to "speed walk" the opposite direction to get as much distance between the bear and us. The only firearm we had between us was my .38 5-shot revolver. She had an air horn. Neither was needed.

Fortunately, the bear just ambled across the trail without a care in the world. We, on the other hand, hauled ass to the car!

Everything ended well, but next time we need to do a better job of being louder on the trail so as not to surprise a bear AND carry more substantial firearms. I'm even thinking this incident could be the perfect excuse for a Mossberg Shockwave, or a .44 magnum revolver. Jus' sayin!

Load that bad boy with this -

But if you're willing to carry it?
Load this pup with slugs and have a nice day

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I didn't realize we had such a large bear population on the eastern side of the Cape Fear River.
Biggest bears in the state towards the coast!
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Black and brown bear are harmless unless you get between a sow and her cubs. Especially if you have dogs with you.
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Used to see black bears all the time camping in the Adirondack mountains as a kid. None ever acted aggressively, but it wasn't like I would go near one.
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Many years ago, I was on a 10th Grade class trip, camping up in Yosemite.

The first night, a bunch of us guys were drinking Beer and Strawberry hill and smoking in a tent. As time went by I felt the urge to take a piss, so I exited the tent and walked off a few yards away from our campsite and into the trees to relieve myself. I had a tremendous buzz going on because this was one of my first times getting buzzed and we were at altitude, too.

Anyhow, as I was standing there, through the haze of my brain I saw what looked like a huge, dark, undulating shape moving Right-to-Left; slowly by, not too far away. ( I can still picture it, it was as big as a large office desk )

A buddy of mine yelled from somewhere behind me, " Mike, look out for that bear!".. and it just clicked to what it was in front of me...

I just went "Holy crap"; finished my business and headed to my sleeping bag out in the open by the smoldering campfire and I just passed out cold.

Another buddy of mine did likewise in his sleeping bag, while the rest of the guys slept in the tent.

The next morning I woke up with a large tin can of Strawberry Jam all torn open, less than 10 feet from my head. The can is the kind that School Cafeterias have. My friends in the tent told me that they had heard the bear (s) rummaging through our campsite late that night; but didn't want to make any noise to warn us, so as to not scare or anger the bears.

The next night, I slept in the van that had brought us to the site.

Basically we would have been Bear food. Good thing I slept right through it all.

And that is the extent of my bear experience. I think I may have pissed on some hazy Bear up in Yosemite.


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I just got back from a motorcycle trip to the Upper Peninsula in MI. Packed my Ruger GP-100 .357 for camping overnight...just in case. I understand a .44 is the way to go but a .357 with proper ammo would take care of most threats there excluding Sasquatch.
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Had one in our front yard yesterday morning. Fun to watch as he headed back up the mountain!
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Had a black bear munching on my peach tree less than 10 feet from our deck last month, but we are in the hills. I pick blackberries when in season and most large bushes are knocked back by bears and can access easily. I carry my Glock 20 with 10mm hardcast and make noise while out there. No problems.
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lol you beat me to it. Army folks and their fancy talk.

that's the next state away or in your front pocket?



Seriously thou, glad things worked out for you and you wife and the dogs.
I'm a firm believer in always being "over gunned"

44mag or 45colt for sure next time.
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Not a good feeling when you draw your gun and feel like its not going to be enough.

I got that same feeling back in the day. The first hand gun I could afford was a 22lr. It was better than nothing, but the one time I had to pull it, I didn't feel very confident in its ability
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yikes,glad all are ok....could have been bad...
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I was running the firebreaks behind Camp Buckner at the USMA and had one amble out of the brush and across the firebreak. I skidded to a stop and said bear, to myself. lol The bear didn't even look in my direction and just walked right on up the side of the hill.
I had NO idea they were there!

Did lots of patrols in dark and daylight... Holy crap!

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I thought you were supposed to back away slowly, not turn around and run away?
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I had NO idea they were there!

Did lots of patrols in dark and daylight... Holy crap!

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I went up there for 2 summers to teach patrolling and the bayonet course. I would always hear bear sightings on the MBITR, but never saw one until I was running on the firebreak by myself. I'm sure most of those sightings were because that bear was trying to stay clear of those cadets stumbling through the brush.
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He was scared because he figured you might think you had the right to his bear arms.
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Bears are beautiful animals and the last thing I want to do is kill one. That said, next time we do a wilderness hike, I'm going with greater firepower just in case.
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Yep, just my 10mm Glock with those hardcasts is all I need here for blackbears if ever attacked. Also an excellent rifle for this is my Marlin 45-70gov guide gun with hc bullets.
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For those of you who accuse me of possibly using this incident as a lame excuse to buy some new firearm.... Uh.... You'd be correct.

Very cheap: pack my existing long barrel .357. (No cost)
Cheap: rig one of my shotguns with a pistol grip. ($35)
Moderate: buy Mossberg shockwave or Remington tac14. ($400)
Expensive: buy big "bear" revolver. ($800?)
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