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Old 04-24-2018, 08:17 AM   #71
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The recoil in my mak isn't an issue either, I'll shoot them both after work sometime this week for a comparison. Ive heard a few people state they have issues with recoil.
I took the GFs dad shooting last week. He's used to 1911s and .45 Glocks. I feel like the Makarov with stock grips is perfectly comfortable as far as recoil goes, but he thought it was excessive. On the other side, he thought his .38 revolver was comfortable and I thought THAT had nasty recoil so it's probably all subjective
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Just ordered a set of those Polish Iron Grips.
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Old 04-24-2018, 06:01 PM   #73
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I took the GFs dad shooting last week. He's used to 1911s and .45 Glocks. I feel like the Makarov with stock grips is perfectly comfortable as far as recoil goes, but he thought it was excessive. On the other side, he thought his .38 revolver was comfortable and I thought THAT had nasty recoil so it's probably all subjective
I think you are right. I use my hands and arms all day long in a metal fabrication shop, so recoil would be different for me compared to a business professional. Lots of variables to consider.
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Old 04-25-2018, 05:48 PM   #74
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Caution: word has it these are not meant to be drop safe when the hammer is down and the safety off.

http://www.p64resource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3147



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I own three of these lovely little guns, but I won't carry something that isn't drop safe when I have other options, and (dis)engaging the slide mounted safety on a pocket pistol is way too slow. A damn shame.
FWIW I did drop one of my P64's on concrete with one in the chamber safety off, it did not go off.
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Old 04-26-2018, 08:49 PM   #75
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Got this one from Classic.

Typical handling and holster wear but bore and feed ramp appear untouched.

Single action is sublime. Double action and safety are a joke, lol.
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Old 04-27-2018, 01:49 PM   #76
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Good news Wolff sent me my 20lb recoil spring.
Slide goes on and off frame with no problem and
feels more smooth when cycling the slide.
The 20lb hammer spring is backordered so I called them and they're sending me a 19lb instead.
Do any of you guys use the xp firing pin spring?

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Old 04-27-2018, 09:14 PM   #77
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Good news Wolff sent me my 20lb recoil spring.
Slide goes on and off frame with no problem and
feels more smooth when cycling the slide.
The 20lb hammer spring is backordered so I called them and they're sending me a 19lb instead.
Do any of you guys use the xp firing pin spring?
I use the 19# hammer spring. It's perfect for me.
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Old 04-27-2018, 11:05 PM   #78
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I use the 19# hammer spring. It's perfect for me.
Yeah I should have just got that in the first place
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Old 04-28-2018, 02:32 PM   #79
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Bought a used one on BP a few years ago for around 200 or 250 with a matching mag. Or whatever you want to call the light numbering. It bites a little when firing. Sprays brass just as far as my WASR. I like the size of it and the battle proven record.

I wouldn't mind picking up a Russian in mak.
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Update finally got my #19lb hammer spring from
Wolff. Wow what a difference, very pleased with
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Update finally got my #19lb hammer spring from
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I hadn't really messed with mine in a while till I noticed this thread and I ordered a spring also. Just waiting for it to come in. Are they hard to replace?
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I hadn't really messed with mine in a while till I noticed this thread and I ordered a spring also. Just waiting for it to come in. Are they hard to replace?
Not bad very similar to changing a SP101 mainspring.
I dont have a vice so I just put something on my knee like a piece of cardboard
and compressed the spring with the mag latch to get the paper clip back in.
This video will help guide you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjS5h_98U5M
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Not bad very similar to changing a SP101 mainspring.
I dont have a vice so I just put something on my knee like a piece of cardboard
and compressed the spring with the mag latch to get the paper clip back in.
This video will help guide you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjS5h_98U5M
Yeah I don't have a vice either but that is what friends are for because it could help from watching the video. Thanks for the link.
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Yeah I don't have a vice either but that is what friends are for because it could help from watching the video. Thanks for the link.
Let us know what you think when you get yours installed.
My lgs just got in several CZ70's and CZ83's in exc cond.
Must fight urge, but im gonna drop in to snoop around Mon heh.
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Update, I ordered 2 spare mags from Classic.
It was like $43 and some change.
They sent me 2 mags that are gtg.
I guess these P64's have two types of mags.
Older style Pre 72' which have shorter feed lips
Newer Post 72' longer feed lips.
The mags Classic sent me were the older style that are the same as the mag that came with the gun.
Both go in the magwell easy and lock the slide back correctly.
Pretty happy.


After some Gunzilla, they cleaned up nice.
These mags are in great shape. +1 for Classic

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Good news Wolff sent me my 20lb recoil spring.
Slide goes on and off frame with no problem
WTF. I cannot for the life of me get anything more than the Wolf 18lb spring in (which is a bitch in and of itself).

The 20lb spring will not let me pull the slide far back enough to reassemble no matter how much strength I use.

Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
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WTF. I cannot for the life of me get anything more than the Wolf 18lb spring in (which is a bitch in and of itself).

The 20lb spring will not let me pull the slide far back enough to reassemble no matter how much strength I use.

Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
Are u pressing down as you bottom out with the slide back. Yours might be too tight and need the ends ground flat.
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Are u pressing down as you bottom out with the slide back. Yours might be too tight and need the ends ground flat.
Yep, still won't budge.

On top of that, while I was able to force the 18lb Wolf spring in, it takes super human strength to disassemble the gun. If I somehow got the 20lb spring in this thing would be nearly impossible to disassemble. It definitely needs the ends to be ground flat. I guess each person's P64 is a unique case.
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Make sure the trigger guard is still in the down position. I've forgotten to do this a couple times and then I'm like...doh! The slide goes right back on once I try to install the slide with trigger guard pulled down...lol...
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Well back from the range.
I tested the 2 spare mags I got from Classic and tried the 19lb hammer spring.
Everything is gtg, dbl action is way better, I didn't experience any problems with the mag popping loose with this new mainspring, and primer hits look solid. Pretty happy with this.
Imo this gun makes you wrk hard for the money lol, but actually makes you a better shot.
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Well back from the range.
I tested the 2 spare mags I got from Classic and tried the 19lb hammer spring.
Everything is gtg, dbl action is way better, I didn't experience any problems with the mag popping loose with this new mainspring, and primer hits look solid. Pretty happy with this.
Imo this gun makes you wrk hard for the money lol, but actually makes you a better shot.
Glad it came out good for you! So is the 19lb hammer spring the lightest recommended? I think there is an 18lb one, but since that is 6lbs lighter than stock (24lb lol) that may be pushing it?
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Glad it came out good for you! So is the 19lb hammer spring the lightest recommended? I think there is an 18lb one, but since that is 6lbs lighter than stock (24lb lol) that may be pushing it?
Pretty sure most on the P-64 forum run the 18lb for best dbl action pull,
but some complain of single action being too light comparing it to a hair trigger.
With the 19lb mainspring I could stage the take up on single action till I hit the wall and hold without the break,
then follow through with the shot. Dbl action first try I was dead center
I finished a whole 50 rd box aren't you guys proud of me. I did take some breaks in between though and played with my AK

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