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Old 02-12-2017, 10:36 AM   #1
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Default Is this Thread Adapter safe???

(see above poll please)
I'm posting this in Full Autos sections b/c this question concerns shooting this suppressor on 'simulated' f/a (bump firing) using a slidefire stock.
B/c I'll be dumping A LOT of ammo down this pipe, I'm concerned the thread adapter I'm using might be problematic.
Here is the Thread Adapter

Here is a short video of when I shot a few rounds just to test the sound. I mean, it works! But I can't say I'm not wondering what's gonna happen to it's alignment after it really heats up.
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Hopefully when it heats up really good it'll expand and tighten. But it's at the end of its thread and can't go around any more.

Are there any other options that'll really lock this in place? Maybe I've got nothing to worry about, but the slight wiggle makes me wonder.
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Old 02-12-2017, 10:49 AM   #2
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My question is: why you would not clear your gun before you thread on a supressor? You even had a round in the chamber. Looks like a darwin award waiting.
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My question is: why you would not clear your gun before you thread on a supressor? You even had a round in the chamber. Looks like a darwin award waiting.
Yes I still had a round in the chamber. I also use the safety lever and never put my finger on the trigger... so you do you, and I'll do me.
Please stay on topic.
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the video is striking! but I'm baffled.
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:32 AM   #5
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I'm not gonna vote. Waiting for the smart people to speak up.

the video is cool. good edit for comparing.
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:33 AM   #6
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Thank you sir. I really don't think the little amount of play that's there is gonna be an issue.
I included the Sound Test video so people could see that it does function of course, but I'm specifically wondering if this will change when shooting large volumes of ammo at once.

Actually wondering if spot welding it to eliminate the wiggle would help.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:11 PM   #7
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UPDATE!!!

OK I took it out to the range and I have no problems. Ran flawlessly... no I just need a welding glove to handle that hot can.

My buddy from Germany trying to use the bumpfire stock on the sbr w/ Gemtech suppressor (using the thread adapter this thread is in reference to)
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Old 02-24-2017, 02:16 AM   #8
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There is no way this ends without a baffle strike if the can is that loose

And no spot weld. The issue with suppressing a ak other than way to much blow back is that you can't seat the can right. Even if you crank it on if you have a detent pin that works it is pushing on the can slightly and you don't want that, let alone any wiggle.

If you don't beleive me please keep the camera rolling so we get a good action shot of the baffles hitting the target

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Dude... of course I believe you.
That's why I posed the question. Thanks!
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There is no way this ends without a baffle strike if the can is that loose

And no spot weld. The issue with suppressing a ak other than way to much blow back is that you can't seat the can right. Even if you crank it on if you have a detent pin that works it is pushing on the can slightly and you don't want that, let alone any wiggle.

If you don't beleive me please keep the camera rolling so we get a good action shot of the baffles hitting the target
I agree ^^^^^

You might has better luck with a 556 or 5.45 AK .
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you do realize that if your wire retainer fails and your hammer access pin walks the AK can fire while no finger is on the trigger and the safety lever is engaged.. not likely but possible and it has happened... and yeah your adapter not safe in the long run... if it comes loose you can have a mess..
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I have several cans and I assure you it's too loose. Have you tried torquing it down with a strap wrench or adding some high temp Teflon tape to the threads?
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I have several cans and I assure you it's too loose. Have you tried torquing it down with a strap wrench or adding some high temp Teflon tape to the threads?
I too have several cans; both direct thread and fast mounts but I basically wanted to know if I needed to wrench it down tighter, past the detent post. The way you see it there is just hand tight.
I wanted to know if I could just leave it like that. But as you see the overwhelming consensus is that you cannot leave it that loose.

So to answer your question... no, I have not. I just need to get it out of the safe and mess with it again. I'm sure I can tighten the thread adapter past the detent pin I just need to get my wrenches out.

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You can always use some sand paper on a flat surface to take just enough off that it makes over to the detent pin.
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You can always use some sand paper on a flat surface to take just enough off that it makes over to the detent pin.
Oh yeah - I remember a Rob Ski video on doing that with muzzle devices. Good stuff.

Could someone also use washers to go the other way - back to the previous detent? They would fill the gap but not help with tightness on their own.

Or a "jam nut"? Customize one to tighten to the needed plunger detent and also it could help secure the device.
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Brownells carries an Accu Washer kit specifically designed to clock muzzle devices. It comes with about 20 washers, not sure if the detent pin would still reach though.
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