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Old 07-17-2017, 06:12 PM   #71
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Why have we not seen other guns tested temp monitored so closely?
I know he checks when he mag dumps but I've never seen them stop after so few rounds.
Did other rifles just not overheat or is there a design issue where this model overheats easily? Is it the furniture?
600 rounds in and they have to slow down? This is some BS.
I think every AK tested passed though the 1000 round count.
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He said in the video that since it was 90* that day they would be watching it more closely.
Was gonna ask the same thing but he also never states that its 90 with 70% humidity......that was enough for me.

But Rob, would that go for wasrs npaps and veprs too? the temps?
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:15 PM   #72
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He said in the video that since it was 90* that day they would be watching it more closely.
That and I think they Stained the Furniture with Ronsonol.
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:18 PM   #73
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It's a Centurdy rifle, so we have to handle it with kid gloves or the Kool Aid swilling phan boiz will claim that Rob purposefully overheated the barrel.
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:44 PM   #74
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I'm assuming this "Alpha" version is still using a cast bolt?
What's so challenging about using forged or billet parts?
PSA finally woke up and started using them, so why can't these other American manufactures?
Cost, cost, and more cost.

Century (and I.O.) are notorious cheapasses who cater to other cheapasses. If they could get away with just selling air they would do it.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:25 PM   #75
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It's a Centurdy rifle, so we have to handle it with kid gloves or the Kool Aid swilling phan boiz will claim that Rob purposefully overheated the barrel.
That's exactly right. Don't feed trolls. They are already accusing me of rigging this test and making C39V2A fail and we didn't even close first thousand yet...hands fkn down
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C39V2A - Century's "latest & greatest" AK clone enters 5k rds test! 600 Later - here we go!

Here we DON'T go. ....... All I see ia a large black square.......no video.
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Cost, cost, and more cost.

Century (and I.O.) are notorious cheapasses who cater to other cheapasses. If they could get away with just selling air they would do it.
I see what you're saying, but I don't think the price difference is enough to justify this. If you ask me, CAI and IO aren't being cheapasses, but rather being total scammers for this...
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:56 PM   #78
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Here we DON'T go. ....... All I see ia a large black square.......no video.
Video is in the original post and your quote, problem must be on your side.
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Video is in the original post and your quote, problem must be on your side.
Agreed. It plays just fine from all my browsers...
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Ok lets talk about how many rds. before this rifle gets a DQ for failures. If this one last 3000 rds I'll be very suprised, what say you ??
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Old 07-18-2017, 12:28 AM   #81
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Why have we not seen other guns tested temp monitored so closely?
I know he checks when he mag dumps but I've never seen them stop after so few rounds.
Did other rifles just not overheat or is there a design issue where this model overheats easily? Is it the furniture?
600 rounds in and they have to slow down? This is some BS.
I think every AK tested passed though the 1000 round count.
Rob also stated (twice, IIRC) that he's trying to keep the barrel below a specific temperature, and due to the aforementioned temperature, had to cut shooting off at 600 rd to avoid overheating the barrel,
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Hope Rob got some shooting in,... this next 6-7 days are going to be hot and very humid for northern Illinois!
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Rob also stated (twice, IIRC) that he's trying to keep the barrel below a specific temperature, and due to the aforementioned temperature, had to cut shooting off at 600 rd to avoid overheating the barrel,
I understand this I guess, but it's the first time I've heard Rob mention he was going to keep it under a certain temperature. I remember when he did the PSAK and he said it was 96 degrees outside and after 4 mag dumps the gas block hit 560 degrees, yet even after that the 25 yard groups didn't change much at all.
Perhaps he's taking it easy because it's Century?? Lol.
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I understand this I guess, but it's the first time I've heard Rob mention he was going to keep it under a certain temperature. I remember when he did the PSAK and he said it was 96 degrees outside and after 4 mag dumps the gas block hit 560 degrees, yet even after that the 25 yard groups didn't change much at all.
Perhaps he's taking it easy because it's Century?? Lol.
The point of the test isn't to melt down the gun. We all know it'd fail miserably at that. The point is to show wear and endurance over a set amount of fired rounds in a reasonable/realistic timeframe. Keeping the barrel below a certain temp assures that any damage is not from excessive heat, but from defects in materials or workmanship.

Other rifles may have been shot faster or at higher temperatures but those rifles were perceived as higher quality rifles with know reputations. The C39 and RAS rifles are known to be shit, so care is being taken to show that they will fail even at reasonable expectations of use rather than "torture testing".
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Off topic but Rob, just notice your soliciting donations via PayPAL. Not a PayPal suppoter, how getting a Patreon account?
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Off topic but Rob, just notice your soliciting donations via PayPAL. Not a PayPal suppoter, how getting a Patreon account?
Man, honestly, i hate paypal. They boot us out few times already, but some guys, who are our fans from day 1, prefer that option.
Honestly, we don't need donations. AKOU store keeps union alive and that's how we pay our bills man (plus my kids collage savings - lol!).
Youtube situation is ridiculous now, but i have seen this coming, that's why we are running that store - that gives us total Independence from YT. Period.
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Sounds like the store is doing well, I worry about that. Always buy from you and yours whenever I can.
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Sounds like the store is doing well, I worry about that. Always buy from you and yours whenever I can.
Thank you man! All helps!
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Hope Rob got some shooting in,... this next 6-7 days are going to be hot and very humid for northern Illinois!
I was gonna further flog my Ruger AR in the next day or two, but with weather becoming all to hot, ill wait til next week. Im kinda at the point of what its gonna take for something to fubar.
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Lol... I was going to take my kids out to the farm this weekend, but I'm going to wait and see how humid it really gets... last week we had an 80 degree day but with 85% humidity, and cloud cover across the sky, it was next to impossible to get anything done outside without sweating like a pig!
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Man, honestly, i hate paypal. They boot us out few times already, but some guys, who are our fans from day 1, prefer that option.
Honestly, we don't need donations. AKOU store keeps union alive and that's how we pay our bills man (plus my kids collage savings - lol!).
Youtube situation is ridiculous now, but i have seen this coming, that's why we are running that store - that gives us total Independence from YT. Period.
Do Patreon and I'm in, yours and a few others I WANT to help produce content.
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Can a new AKM bolt, assuming it's been headspaced correctly, work in a C39V2? Or does it have to be a bolt from a milled gun?
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Good video ROB, I almost made the mistake of buying that instead of spending the extra $ for a VEPR, glad I did. I still have hopes that some US mfg will make a gtg AK with "the good parts" (CHF CL 4510bbl, Forged trunnion, bolt and other parts) and tight QC for <$1000 price point.

Want an American AK, buy a PSAK, its the best out there US made for the $IMO. Just get a complete rifle and not a kit. PSA has a life time warranty.

I do want to see the WASR vid as well myself, having just gotten one.
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Can a new AKM bolt, assuming it's been headspaced correctly, work in a C39V2? Or does it have to be a bolt from a milled gun?
Yes, i just checked my 1979 Polish UF bolt and it works. It even matched headspacing, so it closes on Go and not closes on No Go...what are the odds? lol!
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Yes, i just checked my 1979 Polish UF bolt and it works. It even matched headspacing, so it closes on Go and not closes on No Go...what are the odds? lol!
The odds aren't very good that's for sure. When I was at Battlefield Vegas I got to watch the armorers in action. They had a box of new AK bolts they have to go through to find one that will headspace. The one guy told me sometimes they don't find one and have to put the rifle in the press to make it work.


Take note you new guys. The AK isn't like an AR. You can't just buy a new bolt, drop it in and go shoot.
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Rob, have you seen Tim's (MAC) c39? Having inspected, held, stripped and gone over that rifle, it astonishes me...

Century can mess up and accidentally build a gun that holds up
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its made it 600rds so far, thats cute! Put 500 through my M92 this past Sat


Rob, do you get your hands on the Strela or Legion (3) piece charing handle extensions (Zenit copies)? Im looking to purchase one
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Is the headspacing issue mostly down to the AK not having an actual barrel extension? Headspacing has also been an issue for a lot of recoil operated Browning machine guns (namely the M2) until they started using quick change barrels on the .50s.
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Did you even watch the video?

Looks like garbage ; funky cheap ass wood that won't stay tightened down & grooving on the piston head . Only 600 rounds.
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Is the headspacing issue mostly down to the AK not having an actual barrel extension? Headspacing has also been an issue for a lot of recoil operated Browning machine guns (namely the M2) until they started using quick change barrels on the .50s.
Headspace shouldn't be moving, and when it's headspaced to that bolt usually that's it. You get really lucky just dropping in another bolt and it works. If barrel is moving and headspace is growing it's the barrel pin drilling job that went wrong.
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The odds aren't very good that's for sure. When I was at Battlefield Vegas I got to watch the armorers in action. They had a box of new AK bolts they have to go through to find one that will headspace. The one guy told me sometimes they don't find one and have to put the rifle in the press to make it work.


Take note you new guys. The AK isn't like an AR. You can't just buy a new bolt, drop it in and go shoot.
I got headspaced spare bolts on all my AKs except my MAK90.
I had an unfired SA85M and bought a bolt from an unfired AK63D kit. It headspaced perfect. Think this shows the Hungarians kept close tolerances on their AKMs.
I sold 3 NOS Chinese bolts, instead I should have checked for a bolt to headspace.
My other bolts were hand fitted for a milled build with new Bulgarian bolts.
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