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Old 09-12-2017, 02:43 AM   #1
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http://rocketffl.com/atf-firearm-man...rt-statistics/

Found this random site and thought I would share. It's a aggregation of firearm stats from the ATF. The import information I found particularly interesting. Most of the numbers seem reasonable, but a couple have me questioning their validity. Only 290 rifles imported from Bulgaria and 3 shotguns from there. I have never even heard of a Bulgarian shotgun. Anyways, check it out and discuss.
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Interesting, thanks OP
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Austria imports the most pistols. Probably Glock. I was surprised to see that places you would think import more pistols, like Zastava, didn't import all too many.
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:21 PM   #4
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somethin' ain't right with the world when Taiwan ships more rifles to the USA than Poland. Not dissing on Taiwan, I kinda want one of their military-style AR uppers just for fun, but the Poles can make some damn fine weapons. Wasted opportunity IMO.
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In rifles, Japan is huge! WTF?!
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In rifles, Japan is huge! WTF?!
IIRC, some Weatherby Vanguard model bolt actions are made by Howa in Japan, and I would suspect that this also applies to similar other "Brand Name " rifles.

I may be wrong on other than Weatherby , and it's just a thought...


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Old 09-12-2017, 06:24 PM   #7
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So if Arsenal imports most of their Bulgarian rifles.... Sam7's, SLR's...
WTF.... Only 290 imported in 2016?...
Something ain't right.
Unless they are just importing parts and Arsenal is building them?..
I don't get it.
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The chart lists rifles, handguns, and shotguns. If Arsenal imports their guns as barreled actions and assembles them here, likely they would be classified under an "other" category ATF didn't list. As for the low number of shotguns from Bulgaria, not all imports are for huge lots. Individuals import singles of a firearm they want all the time, especially the high dollar stuff like custom made shotguns. Also firearms companies import singles for research, for a reference collection, even to evaluate a sample to see if they want to carry it in their line.
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So if Arsenal imports most of their Bulgarian rifles.... Sam7's, SLR's...
WTF.... Only 290 imported in 2016?...
Something ain't right.
Unless they are just importing parts and Arsenal is building them?..
I don't get it.
I wonder if this is why they say that KVAR fine Arsenal doesn't haggle out the mag well due to a secret method.
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Arsenal is extremely secretive and wont comment on the actual process or what a rifle looks like when it leaves bulgaria, or what state it's in when it does get here.


they could be receiver flats stamped "made in bulgaria", and unthreaded sporting barrels for all we know, then cobbled together here.
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Guys, i did some numbers digging and this is astonishing. When looking into Bulgaria:

Interestingly enough, in 2013 imported rifles number from Bulgaria was 31,087. Now check this out in 2014 it was around 50% less!!! Only 13,684 were imported from Bulgaria. In 2014, there was no whole "we are too busy hoopla" yet...and again in 2015 numbers plunged by roughly another 50% to: 5,100 rifles imported!
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Guys, i did some numbers digging and this is astonishing. When looking into Bulgaria:

Interestingly enough, in 2013 imported rifles number from Bulgaria was 31,087. Now check this out in 2014 it was around 50% less!!! Only 13,684 were imported from Bulgaria. In 2014, there was no whole "we are too busy hoopla" yet...and again in 2015 numbers plunged by roughly another 50% to: 5,100 rifles imported!
We were probably getting less and less once they started having to make AKs for the middle east conflict. I'd look to see when syria and isis started ramping up and compare that to when we started getting less aks.
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Guys, i did some numbers digging and this is astonishing. When looking into Bulgaria:

Interestingly enough, in 2013 imported rifles number from Bulgaria was 31,087. Now check this out in 2014 it was around 50% less!!! Only 13,684 were imported from Bulgaria. In 2014, there was no whole "we are too busy hoopla" yet...and again in 2015 numbers plunged by roughly another 50% to: 5,100 rifles imported!
Only 290 imported in 2016
No wonder you can't find anything but Sam7's, the most expensive
AKs they make.

Hopefully not a sign of the end of yet another combloc AK supplier.
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Looks like the value of SLR's is heading up.
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So if Arsenal imports most of their Bulgarian rifles.... Sam7's, SLR's...
WTF.... Only 290 imported in 2016?...
Something ain't right.
Unless they are just importing parts and Arsenal is building them?..
I don't get it.
Something is fishy with this numbers, I got 5 myself in 2016
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You might have gotten 5 in 2016, but how many did Arsenal get?

These numbers do make a bit of sense....2013 was the year they introduced the SAM7R and 'game changer' SAM7SF. All of these I've had come in, even recently have had 2013 dated receivers.
Also in 2013, they introduced the SLR-104UR and SLR-104FR (though very very late in the year), so it was a big year for them.
In 2014, they introduced the SAM7UF, and you find these with '14 dated receivers and also a good number of 104UR/FRs with this year date too.
Moving to 2015 though, I've not had any SAM7s come in with this year so far or SLR-104URs either. I've had some SLR-107s and SLR-104FRs though.
As for 2016, the only rifles I've seen with this trunnion date have been SLR-107Rs. Absolutely no word of a 2016 dated SAM7 or SLR-104.

I think Bulgaria might ahve dumped large quantities of sporter rifles onto Arsenal Inc. in 2013 and 2014, and only now have they gotten around to converting most of them.

And also don't forget, 2014 was when they started partnering with Molot, first bringing in VEPR Sporting rifles and more recently the VEPR FM. Its possible that Arsenal Inc. itself made a decision to focus its resources on the Russian product line? OK ok, i know FIME Group....but nearly the same damn thing lol.
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They are buying C39v2 from us first, after it is self exploding they are returning whatever is left back to us
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This has me scratching my head, what rifles that are on the market that are produced in the U.K. Taiwan, or Canada.
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Austria imports the most pistols. Probably Glock. I was surprised to see that places you would think import more pistols, like Zastava, didn't import all too many.
No, USA glocks bud, other than the slide treatment it's all USA.
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This has me scratching my head, what rifles that are on the market that are produced in the U.K. Taiwan, or Canada.
The UK is easy. Accuracy International

I was wondering about Canada. I was impressed with all the handguns.
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I am by no means a Glock expert or even Glock Guy, but all the Gen III and Gen IVs we've had in the store over the last couple years have had Austria (or Austrian proof markings) on the frame, barrel, and slide.

I've been told that most of the USA made Glocks actually go overseas to Glock's international customers.
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