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Old 12-09-2017, 10:53 AM   #36
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I just ordered 1,800 rds of the maylasian 7.62mm. So hopefully it’s some good ammo.
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I just ordered 1,800 rds of the maylasian 7.62mm. So hopefully it’s some good ammo.
If you watch the videos above you will note that the Maylasian L2A2 has noticably more recoil and noise vs say the wolf, but I've noticed that winchester white box M80 762 is softer and more quiet than Maylay L2A2 which has quite the blast and punch. Side by side with Surplus M80 the difference is still notable.
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With affordable and good quality surplus 7.62x51 available, I'll pay a few cents more per round every time for that.
Why? What does 70fps do for you? It's an extra 30-40 yards of supersonic range on a load which isn't accurate enough to consistently tag a full IPSC size target that far out anyhow. The last time I shot 308 I didn't walk away thinking, "man if I only had 50 ft/lbs more energy from an extra 70 fps". What I'd rather have is new production ammo since I'm going for bulk to stock/store it. I want new so I'm certain it can last several more decades. If it was spammed I'd feel differently but it's not and it is 30-40 years old so again Wolf. Now if you're not stocking it aside from something being wrong with you to not take advantage of current pricing the ammo is a good choice.

Then again if you really need that little bit of extra velocity try this.


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Why? What does 70fps do for you? It's an extra 30-40 yards of supersonic range on a load which isn't accurate enough to consistently tag a full IPSC size target that far out anyhow. The last time I shot 308 I didn't walk away thinking, "man if I only had 50 ft/lbs more energy from an extra 70 fps". What I'd rather have is new production ammo since I'm going for bulk to stock/store it. I want new so I'm certain it can last several more decades. If it was spammed I'd feel differently but it's not and it is 30-40 years old so again Wolf. Now if you're not stocking it aside from something being wrong with you to not take advantage of current pricing the ammo is a good choice.
Frankly the biggest downside to steel 308 is the jacketing and casing. copper jacketing and brass casings are going to more gentle over the long term and generally more consistent if at the very least because brass forms a better seal in the chamber than steel does, giving more consistent pressures and velocities.
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Frankly the biggest downside to steel 308 is the jacketing and casing. copper jacketing and brass casings are going to more gentle over the long term and generally more consistent if at the very least because brass forms a better seal in the chamber than steel does, giving more consistent pressures and velocities.
You do know that neither Malaysian South Korean or Wolf have a copper jacket right? They all have a "copper washed bimetal jacket" all are magnetic all projectiles are the same in material.

As far as more consistent velocities and pressures the Malaysian velocity test showed SD's at 20 & 21 fps which can be meet by Wolf.

The differences here are the price, some are old the other is new, and the casing which I'm not sending down the bore anyway so what does a non reloadable brass case do for me that a steel case can't?

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You do know that neither Malaysian South Korean or Wolf have a copper jacket right? They all have a "copper washed bimetal jacket" all are magnetic all projectiles are the same in material.

As far as more consistent velocities and pressures the Malaysian velocity test showed SD's at 20 & 21 fps which can be meet by Wolf.

The differences here are the price, some are old the other is new, and the casing which I'm not sending down the bore anyway so what does a non reloadable brass case do for me that a steel case can't?
Unless your having stuck cases or something then nothing in your case really.
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My Malay ammo just came in today from SG ammo. I might have fuck up and ordered 3,600 rounds instead of 1,800. I originally ordered through sportsmans guide but they were temporarily out of stock and refunded my money. So I ordered from SG ammo instead. Today sportsmans guide sent an email saying my “canceled” order shipped and gave me a tracking number. So we will see if I have another 1,800 rounds show up.

The ammo from SG ammo was 1982 manufacture. I ordered two 900 rd crates. I only opened one but ammo looks brand new, nice and shiny with no tarnish. I can’t wait to go shoot it.
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My Malay ammo just came in today from SG ammo. I might have fuck up and ordered 3,600 rounds instead of 1,800. I originally ordered through sportsmans guide but they were temporarily out of stock and refunded my money. So I ordered from SG ammo instead. Today sportsmans guide sent an email saying my “canceled” order shipped and gave me a tracking number. So we will see if I have another 1,800 rounds show up.

The ammo from SG ammo was 1982 manufacture. I ordered two 900 rd crates. I only opened one but ammo looks brand new, nice and shiny with no tarnish. I can’t wait to go shoot it.
3,600 rounds sounds like a good problem to have.
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so what does a non reloadable brass case do for me that a steel case can't?
Shoot reliably out of a FAL.
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3,600 rounds sounds like a good problem to have.
I won’t complain too much. It would be great if they never charge my card for it.
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shooting steel case in a FAL is a really bad idea.
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Sam's description of the Korean ball mentions some cartridges and cartons tarnished. He usually is very conservative in his advertising. Has anyone noticed any on theirs?

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I ordered some South Korean surplus and his description is accurate. I would say about 15% of my cases has some tarnish on them. It was easily fixed by running the ammo through my case tumbler. Shined them right up and took care of the tarnish.
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I ordered some South Korean surplus and his description is accurate. I would say about 15% of my cases has some tarnish on them. It was easily fixed by running the ammo through my case tumbler. Shined them right up and took care of the tarnish.
Not a good idea to tumble loaded rounds. Smokeless powder burn rate is controlled by both a coating on the individual grains as well as their size and shape. Tumbling them can rub the coating off and crumble the grains, changing the burning rate. Too much change, KaBoom.

If you must remove tarnish, hand polish them.
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I ordered some South Korean surplus and his description is accurate. I would say about 15% of my cases has some tarnish on them. It was easily fixed by running the ammo through my case tumbler. Shined them right up and took care of the tarnish.
The Malay I ordered had no tarnish at all.
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Not a good idea to tumble loaded rounds. Smokeless powder burn rate is controlled by both a coating on the individual grains as well as their size and shape. Tumbling them can rub the coating off and crumble the grains, changing the burning rate. Too much change, KaBoom.

If you must remove tarnish, hand polish them.

I'll let you know if I blow up. Still going to shoot it anyways.
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I ordered some South Korean surplus and his description is accurate. I would say about 15% of my cases has some tarnish on them. It was easily fixed by running the ammo through my case tumbler. Shined them right up and took care of the tarnish.
Thanks for the info. A Merry Malay melee it will be. Say that three times, fast.
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shooting steel case in a FAL is a really bad idea.
Its going to be very bad in that case.
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I have a can of the South Korean stuff coming. I reload so having reloadable cases is a plus.
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My 460 rounds of South Korean 7.62x51 just showed up from SGA. It looks every bit as good as the Federal XM80C I bought at Walmart last weekend, at half the cost.
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Tried to add some ammo to my cart, only to be told my coupon code was for "members only". Apparently my membership ran out this week. Oh well. Since they added sales tax, their deals for me aren't near as good, but I'd still like to occasionally add some of the cheap ammo. Not sure if I'll re-up or not.
Just sign up for the 30 free trial instead of renew. Then order away.
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Just sign up for the 30 free trial instead of renew. Then order away.
I did, and it said that since I was a current or former member, that I couldn't. Then it let me go ahead as my membership wasn't expired after all. I think their system has a glitch. Tried their "double membership discount" code this morning, and it didn't double. Something weird with their website.
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Has anyone put in recent orders with Sam for either? I'm wondering if stock is reaching the bottom of the barrel as far as condition of the rounds.
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Just got an email from Sam and he has some of the 540 cans again but the price is higher than before...
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Well fellas, i opened this malaysian can today and this is what i found, open two others dated 81 to check those and they were good to go. This was from sportsmans guide, purchased last December.



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^^^^ daaaaamn, I almost ordered a 900 pack this morning, I would to be the one off that got a bad batch. Sorry fpk, maybe they may clean up with a 6 pack and wire brush
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Holy crap! Did someone pee in that can? I wouldn't even think of putting those rounds through a rifle.

The second can of South Korean stuff I got had small spots of light corrosion on some of the rounds, but nothing even close to that. I just moved the rounds with the corrosion to the front of the "shoot first" line. They all work great.
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Neither Malaysia nor Korea are NATO members.
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I just received 2x240 packs of 77 Hirt since the SE Asia stuff seems spotty. It looks just like the new production PPU I have. If it shoots as good as it looks I'd say stick with the higher cost surplus with 100% usable rounds.

Almost positive that 77 is Berdan, but I'll check a case and let y'all know.
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I've posted this in other maylay/Korean threads. My Korean .50 cans came with ammo showing signs of rust, slight corrosion. My maylay came with very weathered looking and rusty CANS but the ammo was okay. My Malay in the .50 cans came with great clean cans with awesomly clean ammo....
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